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dayanara |
Posted - 04/22/2005 : 21:42:00 this is why i love frank. best media prank of all time.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1500648/20050422/black_frank.jhtml?headlines=true
quote: Pixies frontman calls Honeycomb 'a mixtape for a peaceful hike.
Charles Thompson was barely 1 year old when Bob Dylan released 1966's classic, genre-blending Blonde on Blonde, yet the double album eventually had a profound effect on the man who later founded the Pixies (under the name Black Francis.
"It was like, 'Yeah, I'm gonna knock out a record in Nashville for a few days before I head out on my world tour.' It was very Dylan." — Frank Black "It just stuck with me, and for years," said the singer, now known as Frank Black. "I always wanted to do my own sort of version, Black on Blonde."
More than a decade ago, Black mentioned this idea to producer Jon Tiven, whose diverse credits include Robert Plant and B.B. King, and the two decided to make it happen as soon as it fit into their schedules. Ten years later, Black was finally ready.
"The Catholics had just come off an exhausting tour — actually several of them — and seemed to be pretty much done," Black said of his post-Pixies band. "There was nothing going on with Pixies, and I'd just gotten divorced and moved to this new city [Portland, Oregon], so it finally seemed the time to do this thing."
As fate would have it, though, Black learned hours later that plans for a Pixies reunion were in the works. Both projects started coming together, and by the time they were in place, Black had only four days to record with Tiven. Fortunately, the session players the producer lined up work fast.
"It actually made it cool," Black said. "It was like, 'Yeah, I'm gonna knock out a record in Nashville for a few days before I head out on my world tour.' It was very Dylan."
To play on the album, Tiven put together a who's who of veteran session musicians that included Steve Cropper, Spooner Oldham, Buddy Miller and David Hood, who among them had recorded with some of the biggest artists in country, R&B and rock, from Otis Redding to Elvis Presley.
"I don't think they really knew my stuff, but it didn't really matter," Black said. "I would show them the basics, and they would catch on so quickly it was literally one or two takes for every track."
As unlikely collaborators as the session players seemed with Black, whose frantic rock with the Pixies inspired Kurt Cobain's work with Nirvana, the singer topped them with the special guest he brought in to duet on "Strange Goodbye": Cobain's ex-wife, Courtney Love.
"I suppose it's just kind of my joke on the album," Black said. "Everybody else, all of our friends, were always so uncomfortable about it, so I thought I would throw this at them."
Along with recording several of Black's compositions, some of which he wrote years ago, the band also logged a few covers, including "Song of the Shrimp," which Elvis performed in the movie "Girls! Girls! Girls!," and "Dark End of the Street," made famous by Percy Sledge.
None of the tracks sound anything like Black's previous work. It's more like a mixtape for a peaceful hike, heavy with alt-country and Van Morrison-like light rock. An updated Blonde on Blonde is about accurate.
In the end, however, Black chose not to call it Black on Blonde because "it was a little too campy." Instead, he borrowed the title of the one of the tracks, "Honeycomb." "It was just a cool word that sounded singer/songwritery, but not too wimpy," he said.
Black is currently trying to line up the same musicians for a tour to promote the album, due July 19. "I'm not sure how much demand there is, though," he said. "[It's] certainly not like the Pixies."
Black is hitting the road with that band, too, for about a month beginning May 26 in Portland. Although he's the one who originally broke up the band years ago, he thoroughly enjoyed the comeback tour, one of the most successful treks of last year.
"I forgot how good it feels to be with these guys, not just onstage, but offstage," he said. "We have the same sort of sense of humor and all that. And we're being rewarded financially for something we did 20 years ago, and I'm not embarrassed by that. Isn't that what art is about? Being recognized?"
When asked if the Pixies plan to record new material, Black promptly answered, "We're a reunion band. People want to hear the old stuff."
Later, however, he said, "We'll record eventually. It's just easy not to do when promoters are calling every day with crazy money trying to book shows."
— Corey Moss
Larry....can you get me some bananas? |
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Daisy Girl |
Posted - 04/27/2005 : 20:14:13 quote: Originally posted by kathryn
Good point, Daisy. I can stop considering suicide methods now. Good point. It gives hope.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
THE CATHOLICS WILL RISE AGAIN!! |
dayanara |
Posted - 04/27/2005 : 17:39:58 i hear the NME has picked this up. |
kathryn |
Posted - 04/27/2005 : 17:37:15 Good point, Daisy. I can stop considering suicide methods now. Good point. It gives hope.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
VoVat |
Posted - 04/27/2005 : 17:31:29 quote: I guess somebody got through too them.
Yes, so now they can start singing all the way.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
BLT |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 21:44:33 quote: Originally posted by floop
quote: Originally posted by BLT
The mere mention of Courtney Love brings odd smells to mind.
like what?
Foetid human secretions, I suppose. |
Daisy Girl |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 19:59:21 Well, the Catholics thing was also in an article with a serious oversight. So, I am not going to worry about it until I hear it from Frank through a more reliable source. |
Carl |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 16:54:41 Teen Spirit? ;) |
floop |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 13:40:54 quote: Originally posted by BLT
The mere mention of Courtney Love brings odd smells to mind.
like what? |
Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 12:11:47 quote: Originally posted by Jason
Forget the Courtney Love stuff. I'm suprised more hasn't been made here of this quote:
quote:
"The Catholics had just come off an exhausting tour — actually several of them — and seemed to be pretty much done," Black said of his post-Pixies band.
Yeah, I thought so too, but then it's less painful not to talk about it.
"Joined the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
BLT |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 11:33:59 The mere mention of Courtney Love brings odd smells to mind. |
kathryn |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 11:04:11 Thanks for clarifying, Mr. Tiven. (Also, I like your perfect and restrained use of the word "sideshow" in relation to Courtney Love.)
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
Jontiven |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 10:56:09 Before this thing gets any more steam, let's put it to rest. And give Jean her props---please.
Courtney Love has had nothing to do with "Strange Goodbye" (or any other song on this record). Why she did a link from her site to the MTV article is beyond me. Perhaps she was happy to be a part of some gossip that was musically-based, rather than the usual sideshow. The reference to her was a mistake or a deliberate red herring---and I'm still not sure which----by the journalist which was subsequently corrected. It was silly, and befuddled all of us. Case closed.
bye, Jon Tiven |
Zsolt G. |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 09:12:56 Yeah, it'll be like the Pixies "rumor". Before you know it, Frank and Courtney will be singing the Osmond's "I'm a little bit Country, you're a little bit Rock & Roll" at supper clubs everywhere. |
Carl |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 02:23:40 Easy, eassssyyy! |
vilainde |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 00:51:37 What if it's true? What If Strange Goodbye was secretly re-recorded? Jon Tiven did say the final version of the album was different than the leaked mp3 files. **creepy**
Denis
"His chops are too righteous. The helmets can't handle this level of rock 'n' roll. Karen, do something!" |
IceCream |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 21:25:02 Good eye, Jason. Do you wear glasses? |
Jason |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 21:10:23 Forget the Courtney Love stuff. I'm suprised more hasn't been made here of this quote:
quote:
"The Catholics had just come off an exhausting tour — actually several of them — and seemed to be pretty much done," Black said of his post-Pixies band.
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Chris Knight |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 17:45:16 OMGWTF courteney duetting w/ franky b on HC how cool is that L8R peeps |
billgoodman |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 15:12:18 mtv, schmtv (try to pronounce that!)
it's time that artist make a statement that this sort of journalism is heading nowhere
"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!" |
The Holiday Son |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 14:48:46 I think the funniest thing about all this is that the webmaster of courtneylove.com is even dumber than Corey Moss. |
Chip Away Boy |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 14:14:05 i'd say they're big dummies. |
mosleyk |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 11:08:22 Yeah...what did they think. Nobody would notice? |
Carl |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 10:13:29 Is'nt it strange, though? :O |
mosleyk |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 09:50:21 Excellent point.
Hey I just checked the MTV website and they have corrected the quote. I guess somebody got through too them. |
dayanara |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 09:44:06 courtney isn't kurt's ex-wife, either (they were married when he died), so that makes the possibility of a genuine misunderstanding even more remote. |
OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 09:38:06 If there was a quote or statement from Charles concerning the duet, it seems pretty obvious that the duet was with HIS ex-wife, not Kurt Cobain's widow,...[thanks for pointing out the misstatement herein Dayanara]...ergo, "I suppose it's just kind of my joke on the album," Black said. "Everybody else, all of our friends, were always so uncomfortable about it, so I thought I would throw this at them."
If this was actually stated by Charles it's obvious he is referring to the uncomfortable feelings of his friends concerning hanging with Jean and Charles post-divorce. You know the drill, husband and wife divorce, mutual friends become uncomfortable about hanging with divorced couple post-divorce, [and then usually the "mutual" friends take sides and one ex-spouse or the other is ostracized from said "mutual" friends"] Sounds like Jean and Charles' split was amicable, and he invited Jean to sing the duet and enjoyed watching the tension and anxiety it created among "all of our friends".
It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever if you omit Jean and insert Courtney Love. But nonsense has never deterred most "reporters", and evidently didn't deter this one.
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Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 08:56:48 I've sent an email, though who knows if they'll even heed it...
"Joined the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
The Holiday Son |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 08:49:56 I'd be curious to know what was Frank's real quote. |
Black_francis_ |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 08:43:31 what the hell is going on?! |
dayanara |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 08:10:04 it's spreading...the horror continues.
http://www.gigwise.com/news.asp?contentid=5604 |
kathryn |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 18:47:41 Dear Frank:
I so appreciate your stopping by and I cannot wait for all your future endeavors, whatever they may be. As my husband often says about me, I'd buy a CD of you passing gas -- everything you do is cool and welcome and I'll open my wallet for. But would you pretty please get the Catholics back on tour one day soon?
Many thanks and much respect from a true fan who does not mean to sound whiny.
Kathryn
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
VoVat |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 15:25:25 I can't believe people are taking this one inaccurate article totally at face value. But then, people are awfully gullible.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 15:13:48 Hey Chuck, did you read my review of Rich's show? Now that is good, accurate journalism, if I do say so myself. And, just in case I screwed something up, I began the article with a caveat that any misquotes, misstatements or inaccuracies were totally my fault.
Let me know if you need someone to cover your summer and fall tours, I am available! |
Daisy Girl |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 15:10:51 Ahh a journalist who makes things up? I am shocked! (not)
Frank I can go beat him up for you!!
I really do love Honeycomb... and Blonde on Blonde. Great hearing the connection between the two. Honeycomb is equality great masterpiece in comparison to that album! Thanks for another amazing album!!
Looking forward to seeing you guys play again in Chi town for Lollapalooza! |
frnck blck |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 15:08:27 this article is a perfect example of a "journalist" taking liberties with the artist's words, badly paraphrasing the artist's words, and flat out making up quotes that the artist never spake...
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