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bobo plenty Posted - 04/15/2004 : 22:24:15
This has to be the best song I've ever seen them play live. I hope that by the time they make it to Spokane they work it into the setlist.
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the tolerant Posted - 08/05/2004 : 05:10:55
the decades mean jack, you're right. i didnt mean because i've been singing the song for some ten years now i know it all. just that since the song was conceived i've seen heard plenty of people singing tyre as to Frank himself. was just making a statement. alot of people seem confused and still dont believe frank sings tyre because for some reason they dont hear it. was just letting them know i and plenty of others 100% believe, know its tyre as much as that monkey went to heaven.

and yeah in england a rubber ring (tyre) is spelt tyre. blame our english teachers if its a problem.

whoreatthedoor Posted - 08/03/2004 : 23:49:02
I prefer Tiger, but it doesn't matter at all. I used to sing it:
RRRRRRRRAAAAAAIIIIIIIAAAAAATTTTAAAIIIIIIEEERRR!!!!!!
Stunning song.


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Ziggy Posted - 08/03/2004 : 13:23:47
Tyre - as in the rubber around a wheel rim, is definately the UK spelling.

Tire - to get 'tired' (Ahhh've been tiiiiiiiiyaad!)
TheCroutonFuton Posted - 08/03/2004 : 12:45:53
1 question...why is everyone spelling "tire" as "tyre"? Do you all mean "Tyre" as in the ancient city? Or "tire" as in the round object on vehicles that just happen to float on water?

I'm with chineselover on this one..why does it matter which decade?

I'm thinking it's probably "Tire"...not "Tyre" or "Tigris"...

::EDIT:: Weird, I did some research and apparently in England "tire" is spelled "tyre"...Weirdness. I wonder if it was named after the city or something? I is confused.

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chineselover Posted - 08/03/2004 : 10:49:41
what difference does the decade make to a mis heard lyric???
the tolerant Posted - 08/02/2004 : 11:12:48
wow! i know theres some hardcore frank fans here and too the pixies, but hasnt it always been tyre since the very beginning. i don't know why its still being debated and questioned. theres quite a few of us who have been singing 'tyre' since the late 80's.

and there ain't no 'g' because there aint no tiger
NimrodsSon Posted - 07/31/2004 : 18:23:39
Yeah, I've listened very carefully for the g before and I've decided that there is definitely not one.


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manta_ray11 Posted - 07/31/2004 : 16:46:34

I've just listened closely to the Disclive CD of Brixton 5th June, and he definitely sings "tyre" every time. There's not a hint of a "g" sound.

Andy
scarred4life Posted - 07/26/2004 : 09:10:35
I always thought it was "tiger" and I thought it was a reference to the tigris river. Now that this thread has come up, I've listened more closely to live recordings and it does sound more like "tyre/tire". The thing is you're missing the point if you're trying to make sense out of his Pixies lyrics, because a lot of them were written just because the syllables sounded good with the music, not because the words themselves make any sense ("This monkey's gone to heaven" is a perfect example of that). In my personal opinion, whether it's the actual lyric or not I like "tiger" better. whenever I've listened to the song I've always envisioned somebody riding a tiger alongside the river (not on the actual river itself), and that's a pretty cool image.
Skatealex1 Posted - 07/23/2004 : 13:47:20
I have to say its definetely tyre. Listen to it live and youll hear clearly

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The Champ Posted - 07/23/2004 : 13:05:56
Yea thats one of my favourite pixies sogns, only problem is they dont play the entire song for some reason, ive always like the ending too, too bad they arent playing it
gk128 Posted - 07/23/2004 : 11:42:56
quote:
Originally posted by the tolerant
to know they never played it live, well you learn something new every day


They have played it live, and there is a video of one of these live performances up on the FTP.



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chineselover Posted - 07/21/2004 : 17:25:18
it could mean the tigris river which flows into the Euphrates.. if its a dangerous fast, hard to navigate, an adrenalin rush of a river then tiger would makes sense... y'know trying to ride or control something really dangerous...but i don't think its known for much white water, lots of biblical references to the Euphrates which fits in with a lot of early pixies stuff..
langdonboom Posted - 07/21/2004 : 11:32:26
Tigris and Euphrates -- Ride the Tiger just sounds like a great FB-ism from that era. It HAS to be tiger.

Ride a tire down the River Euphrates?? Its a little too Mark Twain-y imgaery (riding a tire down a river) for a song refrencing all things middle east -- Gaza strip, dead sea...

though, then again, if the car breaks down and is out of gas, maybe you do just take off a tire and ride it down the river euphrates instead. Now I've confused myself.

It now makes sense to me that its tire since if you ran out of gas from driving too fast, maybe you just need to slowly ride ride ride ride ride ride a tire down the river instead. The dead sea makes it float, since the salty water makes everything float very easily.
Of course the Gaza Strip, dead sea, and euphrates river dont' connect physically, but image-wise it works great.

Hmmmm....


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TheCroutonFuton Posted - 07/21/2004 : 07:39:19
It's either "Tiger", "Tyre", or "Tire".

Tiger being the Tigris River.
Tyre being the ancient city in Lebanon.
Tire being..well..a tire that you ride on water.

"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic
twist Posted - 07/21/2004 : 07:35:30
If you speak English it's Tyre, if you speak American it's Tiger. Anyone see a connection with Philip K. Dicks' The Transmigration Of Timothy Archer? I'm previsualising my own sweatlessness at the end of the set. 4+ months from now. You can't put a tyre in your tank.
manta_ray11 Posted - 07/20/2004 : 17:25:11
Got to be "tyre". Makes more sense - you get amusement park rides in large tyres going down water flumes. But then, Pixies lyrics often don't make sense immediately or in an obvious way.

As for its live performance, it was just awesome at Brixton, as was the rest of the gig. And coming towards the end of the set, it just about drained the last drop of sweat out of my body.

Andy
chineselover Posted - 07/20/2004 : 13:05:38
http://www.amiright.com/misheard/new/1089781200.shtml half way down it says its tiger
same web site
http://www.amiright.com/misheard/artist/pixies.shtml
it says it tyre
and it looks like we have already had it
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7630
i think its tiger!!!
kromkamp Posted - 07/20/2004 : 08:34:32
God, I always thought it was 'ride the tiger'..... In fact, I refuse to believe it is anything but that. :)
Adam Posted - 07/20/2004 : 07:47:24
Well let's see, lbf. You are wrong, there is only one level of irony in my reply and it is directed right at you. And you probally figured that one out. Congratulations on being here a while,I personally am very jealous. God forbid we haven't all been around as long as you and god forbid we are not the EXPERTS ON PIXIES LYRICS THAT YOU ARE.

Free the Heel!
loudlarf Posted - 07/20/2004 : 07:20:40
lbf - you need help mate.
Adam Posted - 07/20/2004 : 05:59:49
If this thread is such a waste of time, lbf, why bother answering it?

Free the Heel!
frank_black_francis Posted - 07/20/2004 : 05:36:55
Its 'Tyre', but last time I checked, aint nothing wrong with thinking 'Tiger' which would work as well.

I remember Paul McCartney telling a story about how one of his musicians had been singing Strawberry Fields' line, "living is easy with nice clothes, misunderstanding all you see", rather than "living is easy with eyes closed..."....funny.
Ziggy Posted - 07/20/2004 : 02:04:28
A TYYYYRRRE!!!
Skatealex1 Posted - 07/19/2004 : 18:11:00
tyre

The Truth Is Out There
shineoftheever Posted - 07/19/2004 : 17:13:41
pretty sure it's tyre.


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The light in your eyes, the smile on your ruby lips/Tells me my lost soul is found"
BadDope Posted - 07/19/2004 : 16:57:27
There's a big discussion at the pixiesmusic.com board about a part of the lyrics. Is it "ride the tiger down river euprates" or "ride a tyre down river euphrates"? I'm thikin' it's tiger..



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kromkamp Posted - 04/16/2004 : 07:52:01
Theres something about his vocal take in the single version I like better. Its more raw or something.
Spiral~Daisy Posted - 04/16/2004 : 06:25:08
yes! i love that song as well.
Ziggy Posted - 04/16/2004 : 05:18:01
The single, I prefer

'Took his plane to Columbia/So I could sell at my school"
the tolerant Posted - 04/16/2004 : 01:53:45
sorry got it wrong, too early for my eyes and i gotta go to work...they have played it live, right?
still an awesome tune...ri..ri...ri...ri
the tolerant Posted - 04/16/2004 : 01:51:33
which version of the song is ya fave: the single or the album.

i agree, its one of my all time classic pixies, and to know they never played it live, well you learn something new every day
puckhead56 Posted - 04/15/2004 : 23:54:25
I've seen the band play live about 6 times in the past ('89-'92, Vancouver/Seattle) and not once did they have River Euphrates in their setlist. I'll be at Vancouver and Davis shows so I'm hoping also to finally hear it live.
klikger Posted - 04/15/2004 : 23:32:16
Wish they would've played it in mpls and hope they do in chi-town.
sonic III Posted - 04/15/2004 : 23:14:10
ditto, awesome song.

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