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| stoffaboy |
Posted - 11/30/2013 : 01:39:30
According to NME and Kim's twitter it seems Pixies have now sacked the new Kim ! Shame, that line up really worked live !
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| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 12/06/2013 : 13:44:20
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Originally posted by picpic
I can't believe anyone can go to a rock show and spend time complaining about mistakes instead of enjoying the show. Really...
Ahh, I've read Pearl Jam fans eviscerate the band for mistakes or "mistakes" or a bit of sloppiness.
Back in 09 they played a little over 100 unique songs over a four night stand at the Philadelphia Spectrum. I thought these were some of the best shows they'd done; sure there were mistakes here and there but some hardcore fans would complain about all sorts of things; even that the tempo on some songs was faster...! Of course it was, it's a rock concert, if I want to hear the songs precisely as recorded, I'll stay home and listen to the albums.
I understand everyone has different tastes and preferences, and I understand the disappointment if they mess up your favorite song but a lot of criticism seemed extreme, to me.
And yes, Joey has come up with some amazing riffs; heck, the solo to Hey is just an amazing compliment to the song. He never really struck me as sloppy; most of his playing seems very precise, save for Vamos or the end of Gigantic.
Strange now to think how that song went from the 99% last song of the show to (understandably) not being played.
Cheers |
| IBreed |
Posted - 12/06/2013 : 09:49:21
joey's playing kind of sounds sloppy at the best of times though. that's no diss. his style is impeccable. |
| picpic |
Posted - 12/06/2013 : 09:07:25
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And as for sloppiest live guitarist all time - that one's gotta go to Jimmy Page hands down.
Both of them are guitar heroes. So, whatever. |
| johnnyribcage |
Posted - 12/05/2013 : 09:25:50
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Originally posted by Discoking
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Originally posted by hammerhands
I don't think good guitar players care much about being sloppy
i guess not.
my friend also said "at least he doesn't take himself too seriously" and he also liked that bit in vamos where joey goes nuts. so he thought it was all good fun, but he couldn't get his head around the mistakes.
anyway, it doesn't matter. i was just reminded of what my friend said when someone mentioned that joey also made some mistakes.
i was quite surprised at his remark, because all i've ever heard or read before was that joey is very underrated as a guitarist. i personally wouldn't even have a clue. i know absolutely nothing about playing any instruments.
 it's educational
I think your friend is just into a different kind of rock guitarist. Joey's not Derek Trucks or Rich Robinson, but at the same time, neither of those guys could play or come up with the stuff Joey does for the Pixies. And as for sloppiest live guitarist all time - that one's gotta go to Jimmy Page hands down.
Dial 1-888-RIB-CAGE for your free Bag Boy instruction manual. |
| The Champ |
Posted - 12/04/2013 : 10:42:15
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Originally posted by Chris Knight
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Originally posted by The Champ
Far from it. She had good energy, but she was never remotely in pitch, and had sloppy bass playing which did make the songs sound weird. I thought she would improve, but she didn't.
I don't hear what you're talking about, at least not in the live clips I've heard. I take it for granted that Kim Shattuck is as technically gifted as anyone in the Pixies, given that she's the leader of her own moderately successful group. She sings great on her own material, though she might've been a little out of her element with the Pixies (since crooning like Kim Deal is not really her style).
Indie Cindy, for example, is pretty out of pitch. Since Frank is a screamer, it is too much to ask to have him falsetto that well. He needs KD to carry the lighter parts, or someone else who is good. |
| Grotesque |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 23:35:19
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Originally posted by Chris Knight
quote:
Originally posted by The Champ
Far from it. She had good energy, but she was never remotely in pitch, and had sloppy bass playing which did make the songs sound weird. I thought she would improve, but she didn't.
I don't hear what you're talking about, at least not in the live clips I've heard. I take it for granted that Kim Shattuck is as technically gifted as anyone in the Pixies, given that she's the leader of her own moderately successful group. She sings great on her own material, though she might've been a little out of her element with the Pixies (since crooning like Kim Deal is not really her style).
I thought it was cool that she had her own personality and style, she was not at all a kim deal copycat, and also that she's more or less from from the same scene and generation, not some emo groupie in her 20s... This would have been awfull. |
| picpic |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 21:57:54
I can't believe anyone can go to a rock show and spend time complaining about mistakes instead of enjoying the show. Really...
Joey has created some legendary, unforgettable, epic riffs. As simple as that. (but do we need to explain everything ?) |
| Discoking |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 21:02:42
quote:
Originally posted by hammerhands
I don't think good guitar players care much about being sloppy
i guess not.
my friend also said "at least he doesn't take himself too seriously" and he also liked that bit in vamos where joey goes nuts. so he thought it was all good fun, but he couldn't get his head around the mistakes.
anyway, it doesn't matter. i was just reminded of what my friend said when someone mentioned that joey also made some mistakes.
i was quite surprised at his remark, because all i've ever heard or read before was that joey is very underrated as a guitarist. i personally wouldn't even have a clue. i know absolutely nothing about playing any instruments.
it's educational |
| Chris Knight |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 19:41:48
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Originally posted by The Champ
Far from it. She had good energy, but she was never remotely in pitch, and had sloppy bass playing which did make the songs sound weird. I thought she would improve, but she didn't.
I don't hear what you're talking about, at least not in the live clips I've heard. I take it for granted that Kim Shattuck is as technically gifted as anyone in the Pixies, given that she's the leader of her own moderately successful group. She sings great on her own material, though she might've been a little out of her element with the Pixies (since crooning like Kim Deal is not really her style). |
| peter radiator |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 19:11:05
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Originally posted by Discoking
i went to see the pixies in october with a friend who plays guitar, and he said joey was the worst guitar player he's ever seen on a stage. he thought it was all very sloppy and full of mistakes.
i have no idea about these things, but he wouldn't say that without a good reason.
http://youtu.be/3-qyAoF6jow?t=20s
~ Peter Radiator
"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder |
| picpic |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 04:40:41
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i went to see the pixies in october with a friend who plays guitar, and he said joey was the worst guitar player he's ever seen on a stage. he thought it was all very sloppy and full of mistakes.
i have no idea about these things, but he wouldn't say that without a good reason.
That's probably the reason why Joey is so epic.
That's probably what I like about rock 'n roll.
No need to be virtuoses to be goddam good. And the Pixies were (are) goddam good.
Your friend probably simply doesn't understand what rock music is all about. |
| hammerhands |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 04:27:49
I don't think good guitar players care much about being sloppy,
at least not the really good guitar players.
Take Nelson Symonds.
http://youtu.be/N9GUA8fJWgM
It's nothing to take pride in, but it isn't about music. |
| Discoking |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 04:03:23
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Originally posted by The Champ
That being said, Joey has had some pretty big mistakes to.
i went to see the pixies in october with a friend who plays guitar, and he said joey was the worst guitar player he's ever seen on a stage. he thought it was all very sloppy and full of mistakes.
i have no idea about these things, but he wouldn't say that without a good reason.
it's educational |
| The Champ |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 03:08:48
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Originally posted by Chris Knight
Whatever the plan is, surely they are pretty confident about it. Otherwise they wouldn't have let go of Kim Muffs, who is about as good as a replacement can get.
Far from it. She had good energy, but she was never remotely in pitch, and had sloppy bass playing which did make the songs sound weird. I thought she would improve, but she didn't. That being said, Joey has had some pretty big mistakes to.
If VC comes in, then we won't see KD again until the one off, rock and roll hall of fame performance of WIMM sometime in 2025.
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| Classic Masher |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 01:51:13
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Originally posted by TheScooper
Frank is now tweeting pics of a bass from his living room. Hoping this doesn't mean he's teaching V.C. Pixies songs.
Maybe Frank is taking over on bass and they're bringing in a female rhythm guitarist/vocalist? Maybe one of Kim D's requirements to come back was to play guitar (her real main instrument) and not bass...
"Mixed messages from Sir Naff, please authenticate..." |
| Chris Knight |
Posted - 12/02/2013 : 20:31:38
Whatever the plan is, surely they are pretty confident about it. Otherwise they wouldn't have let go of Kim Muffs, who is about as good as a replacement can get. |
| BLT |
Posted - 12/02/2013 : 17:33:52
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Originally posted by TheScooper
Frank is now tweeting pics of a bass from his living room. Hoping this doesn't mean he's teaching V.C. Pixies songs.
If it's going to go that way she'd better work at thickening her skin. |
| TheScooper |
Posted - 12/02/2013 : 16:45:02
Frank is now tweeting pics of a bass from his living room. Hoping this doesn't mean he's teaching V.C. Pixies songs. |
| rivum |
Posted - 12/02/2013 : 07:02:05
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Originally posted by picpic
MrBlackFrancis just retweeted some random KS eviction article ... http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2013/12/pixies_lose_ano.html
Without any comment... uhhh...
maybe he tweeted that particular one as that seems to be the only one that doesn't say she was fired... |
| Carl |
Posted - 12/02/2013 : 04:59:35
I just got a bass guitar a while ago... I could stick on a wig and a dress and they're sorted. |
| Fissile |
Posted - 12/02/2013 : 04:34:06
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Originally posted by floop
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Originally posted by BLT
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Originally posted by Fissile
Another possibility is that they are calling it quits. EP1 was almost universally panned by the critics. Maybe they have decided to hang it up for good.
The Pixies seems like too big a cash cow for that to happen.
i agree with BLT. also, suggesting they hang it up would contradict most of fissile's earlier theories about how they are all doing it because they were destitute
 green star member since 2006. smb?
They needed money....back in 2004. Obviously you have been in a coma for the last ten years, and don't have a clue as to what's happened since then. |
| Sprite |
Posted - 12/02/2013 : 04:26:09
He's probably reading these threads and doing an evil cackle |
| picpic |
Posted - 12/02/2013 : 04:24:03
MrBlackFrancis just retweeted some random KS eviction article ... http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2013/12/pixies_lose_ano.html
Without any comment... uhhh... |
| The Champ |
Posted - 12/02/2013 : 04:18:10
quote:
Originally posted by Fissile
Another possibility is that they are calling it quits. EP1 was almost universally panned by the critics. Maybe they have decided to hang it up for good.
Frank is too competitive to do that. |
| floop |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 17:37:10
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Originally posted by BLT
quote:
Originally posted by Fissile
Another possibility is that they are calling it quits. EP1 was almost universally panned by the critics. Maybe they have decided to hang it up for good.
The Pixies seems like too big a cash cow for that to happen.
i agree with BLT. also, suggesting they hang it up would contradict most of fissile's earlier theories about how they are all doing it because they were destitute
green star member since 2006. smb? |
| IBreed |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 17:31:05
definitely not with a sold out tour. unless they totally imploded and i can't see that. |
| BLT |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 15:59:05
quote:
Originally posted by Fissile
Another possibility is that they are calling it quits. EP1 was almost universally panned by the critics. Maybe they have decided to hang it up for good.
The Pixies seems like too big a cash cow for that to happen. |
| Fissile |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 14:35:24
Another possibility is that they are calling it quits. EP1 was almost universally panned by the critics. Maybe they have decided to hang it up for good. |
| Thomas |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 12:41:53
Maybe Kim Stanley Robinson is available.
"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard" |
| Sprite |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 09:21:25
Time for another wager between you two perhaps?
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| floop |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 07:39:59
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Originally posted by Fissile
For the last few months, I've had the feeling that Kim toured LSXX because her sister needed the cash, and maybe the rest of the Pixies knew about it, and they've been playing us all for chumps.
classic fissile
green star member since 2006. smb? |
| simibaby |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 05:54:20
hmmm....i'm seeing the Breeders on Dec 19 & 20, then the Pixies twice 4 weeks later (with Kim Deal????!!!!). I like Shattuck, very weird news. |
| lofiscifi |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 05:33:47
no!!! seriously, what the hell? in my opinion this can only signal one thing, the return of kim deal. if this turns out to be the case, i have to admit, i'm more disappointed in her return than in her departure.
the band have been on fire these past few months - the live shows so much more energetic and inspired than anything the past few years. so bummed to hear this news. kim shattuck rocked. all the best to her.
- lofiscifi |
| The Champ |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 04:35:20
Pixies trompe le monde? Again? |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 04:07:41
The timing, if anything, is what surprises me the most. Why get rid of a very able replacement before the second leg of the tour?
With the length of time all parties involved have been in the business I don't buy that there was any falling out to the extent of putting the bands future in jeopardy.
Whilst they have admitted they are not great communicators, there wasn't an impression (to me anyway) of disharmony.
Of course I dont know what goes on and the secrecy that goes with the Pixies is Vatican-esque at best, but it definitely gives me the impression that the only valid reason to get rid of Kim S is for a 'bigger fish' to join.
Whether it will be Kim Deal rejoining or PJ Harvey guesting (purely speculation), it is certainly interesting timing and strikes me as the reason why EP2 hasn't been released....yet. |
