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kathryn |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 10:06:34 The July issue of Spin includes the magazine's 100 greatest albums 1985-now:
1. Radiohead - OK Computer 2. Public Enemy - It takes a nation of million to hold us back 3. Nirvana - Nevermind 4. Pavement - Slanted and enchanted 5. The Smiths - The queen is dead 6. The Pixies - Surfer Rosa 7. De la soul - 3 feet high and rising 8. Prince - Sign 'o' the times 9. PJ Harvey - Rid of me 10. NWA - Straight outta Compton 11. U2 - Achtung baby 12. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique 13. Husker Du - New Day Rising* 14. Sonic Youth - Daydream nation 15. Liz Phair -Exile in Guyville
Quote from Frank: " I don't even know what I think about Surfer Rosa. But obviously it has staying power like a Velvet Underground or Iggy Pop record. They're not as famous as their big brothers, but go to a record store anywhere in the world and there's probably a copy there. It's the best of both worlds: fame, plus street cred."
The Husker Du entry includes this fun tidbit: "Black Francis claimed that when he formed the Pixies he owend five albums, three by Husker Du. Still Hart was chastised for accidentally eating Francis' dressing-room yogurt after a festival in the 90s."
As is always the case with these compilations, they've included some clunkers. De la soul? Gimme a break.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Daisy Girl |
Posted - 07/29/2005 : 18:14:21 Well it is cool that Surfer made #6 the others should have been on the list. Glad to see Doolittle was represented.
Glad to see hip hop was represented, because in many cases that was the next shiznet of what was going on at the time... nice to see BDP, De La, Nas, & Public Enemy on there. But where was Tribe?? Hello! Jay Z, I don't know if he should have made the list.
I was suprised that Actung Baby made it on there and not Joshua Tree??? Travesty.
Nice to see more interms of gender representation, but there is still a long way until ladies in music get the credit they're due.
As far as the Smiths debate goes... I would have had Louder than Bombs in there... I think that makes the date cut off.
Surprised the Sugarcubes didn't make the list as well as a lot of really good bands like the Misfits and Violent Femmes... but maybe that didn't make the cut off either. |
prozacrat |
Posted - 07/29/2005 : 15:22:07 Why am I not seeing any Tom Waits on that list?
http://www.prozacrat.com |
Mickey |
Posted - 07/29/2005 : 13:56:21 quote: Originally posted by leokearse
Sleepy Jackson - Lovers?
Seriously, even though it's only about a year old that album deffinatley should be included in the top 100 of the last 20 years. I mean, c'mon, it's better than Exile in Guyville which is apparently #15. The point is Luke Steele rules.
-Mickey |
Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo |
Posted - 07/22/2005 : 06:30:25 And Radiotête... Come on everyone!!!! Turn off that Radiohead!!!!
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo |
Posted - 07/22/2005 : 06:29:26 Yes, that's what I say... Totally silly... Pavement... pfff....
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frank_black_francis |
Posted - 07/22/2005 : 05:26:03 ...no one questions Pavement being number 4? That's messed up. |
leokearse |
Posted - 07/22/2005 : 05:04:21 This seems to be a list of albums that would make people who read Spin magazine think you were cool if they saw them on your Habitat perspex coffee table. Where are all the albums that are fun to listen to? Happy Mondays - Pills'n'Thrills'n'Bellyaches? Manu Chao - Proxima Estacion Esperanza? Sleepy Jackson - Lovers? Teenager of the Year? "Fun" beats "whiny studenty indie cool" any day of the week.
- Leo |
Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo |
Posted - 07/22/2005 : 01:15:56 Well... a big part of it is a big batch of craps....
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The Marsist |
Posted - 07/21/2005 : 18:19:05 what the fuck is automatic for the people doin at 85
"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking." - Frank Black
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jangis |
Posted - 07/21/2005 : 17:29:50 The Replacements-Tim is way too low as well. Tim is so amazing. Then again I'm a sucker for the mats. But for me Doolittle would be number 1 easily. The fight for #2 would be a tough one though. |
kathryn |
Posted - 07/21/2005 : 15:36:36 Don't start!
Nas, Wu-Tang, Sleater-Kinney's Dig Me Out all ranked above Doolittle?
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 07/21/2005 : 15:23:59 Bizarre stuff in there, but whats the point in picking over it? All I can say is Rum Sodomy & The Lash? 96? Are you mad?
How's that for a slice of fried gold? |
jangis |
Posted - 07/21/2005 : 12:56:27 Here is the complete list for all to discuss ...
Spin's Top 100
1. Radiohead- OK Computer- 1997 2. Public Enemy- It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back- 1998 3. Nirvana- Nevermind- 1991 4. Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted- 1992 5. The Smiths- The Queen is Dead- 1986 6. Pixies- Surfer Rosa- 1988 7. De La Soul- 3 Feet High and Rising-1989 8. Prince- Sign ‘o’ the Times-1987 9. PJ Harvey- Rid of Me- 1993 10. N.W.A- Straight Outta Compton- 1988
11. U2- Achtung Baby-1991 12. Beastie Boys- Paul’s Boutique- 1989 13. Hüsker Dü- New Day Rising- 1985 14. Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation- 1988 15. Liz Phair- Exile in Guyville- 1993 16. Beck- Odelay- 1996 17. Nas- Illmatic- 1994 18. Guns N’ roses- Appetite for Destruction- 1987 19. Hole- Live Through This- 1994 20. Wu-Tang Clan- Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)- 1993
21. Public Enemy- Fear of a Black Planet- 1990 22. My Bloody Valentine- Loveless- 1991 23. Outkast- Stankonia- 2000 24. Sleater-Kinney- Dig Me Out- 1997 25. Nine Inch Nails- The Downward Spiral- 1994 26. Björk- Post-1995 27. The Cure- The Head on the Door- 1985 28. Oasis- Definitely Maybe- 1994 29. Fugazi- 13 Songs- 1989 30. The Notorious B.I.G.- Ready to Die- 1994
31. Dinosaur Jr. You’re Living All Over Me- 1987 32. The Replacements- Tim- 1985 33. Ice Cube- AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted-1990 34. Elliott Smith- Either/Or- 1997 35. Dr. Dre- The Chronic- 1992 36. Pixies- Doolittle- 1989 37. Guided By Voices- Bee Thousand- 1994 38. A Tribe Called Quest- The Low End Theory- 1991 39. Lucinda Williams- Lucinda Williams-1988 40. Run- D.M.C.- Raising Hell- 1986
41. Smashing Pumpkins- Siamese Dream-1993 42. Jane’s Addiction- Nothing Shocking- 1988 43. Boogie Down Productions- Criminal Minded- 1987 44. Greenday- Dookie- 1994 45. Kanye West- College Dropout- 2004 46. The Fall- This Nation’s Saving Grace- 1985 47. Eric B. & Rakim- Paid in Full- 1987 48. Radiohead- Kid A- 2000 49. Lauryn Hill- The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill- 1998 50. New Order- Low-Life- 1985
51. Nirvana- In Utero-1993 52. Beastie Boys- Licensed to III- 1986 53. Rage Against the Machine- The Battle of Los Angeles- 1999 54. The Breeders- Last Splash- 1993 55. The Chemical Brothers- Dig Your Own Hole- 1997 56. PJ Harvey- To Bring You My Love- 1995 57. The White Stripes- White Blood Cells- 2001 58. Metallica- Master of Puppets- 1986 59. Modest Mouse- The Lonesome Crowded West- 1997 60. De La Soul- De La Soul is Dead- 1991
61. Weezer- Pinkerton- 1996 62. Missy Elliott- Supa Dupa Fly- 1997 63. Pavement- Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain- 1994 64. Eminem- The Marshall Mathers LP- 2000 65. Basement Jaxx- Remedy- 1999 66. Outkast- Aquemini- 1998 67. Slayer- Reign in Blood- 1986 68. Tricky- Maxiquaye- 1995 69. DJ Shadow- Entroducing DJ Shadow- 1996 70. Jay-Z- The Blueprint- 2001
71. The Jesus and Mary Chain- Psychocandy-1985 72. Raekwon- Only Built 4 Cuban Linx- 1995 73. Pulp- Different Class- 1995 74. Portishead- Dummy- 1994 75. Le Tigre- Le Tigre- 1999 76. Belle and Sebastian- If You’re Feeling Sinister- 1997 77. Wilco- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot-2002 78. The Stone Roses- The Stone Roses- 1989 79. Moby- Everything is Wrong- 1995 80. D’Angelo- Voodoo- 2000
81. Beck- Mellow Gold- 1994 82. Jeff Buckley- Grace- 1994 83. At the Drive-In- Relationship of Command-2000 84. Sound-Garden- Superunknown- 1994 85. R.E.M.- Automatic for the People- 1992 86. Meat Puppets- Up on the Sun- 1985 87. Blur- Parklife- 1994 88. Stereolab- Emperor Tomato Ketchup- 1996 89. Yeah Yeah Yeahs- Fever to Tell- 2003 90. Sonic Youth- Sister- 1987
91. XTC- Skylarking- 1986 92. Big Black- Atomizer- 1986 93. Pearl Jam- Ten- 1991 94. Slint- Spiderland- 1991 95. Elastica- Elastica- 1995 96. The Pogues- Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash- 1985 97. Neutral Milk Hotel- In the Aeroplane over the Sea- 1998 98. Corner-Shop- When I was Born for the 7th Time- 1997 99. Afghan Whigs- Gentlemen- 1993 100. The Strokes- Is This It- 2001
Sorry to take up too much space. |
kathryn |
Posted - 07/21/2005 : 04:07:13 I think it's one of those evil online subscription thingies.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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andrewface |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 21:02:55 huh that only goes to 50?? wheres the top 50? |
kathryn |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 15:27:19 quote: Originally posted by andrewface
yea....that list aint looking so good.... do you have a link to the rest of it?
http://www.spin.com/features/magazine/covers/2005/06/0507_cover_greatest_albums/
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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number 13 |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 15:22:52 quote: Originally posted by vilainde
I have 4 of these (Public Enemy, Pixies, Husker Du, Sonic Youth). It's not a bad list IMO but it lacks the more electronic stuff (where's Massive Attack's Blue Lines? It definitely belongs here)
Denis
I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
Exactly the same for me. But there are lots of absent like Jane's Addiction, Guns N Roses (they were really famous and brought again danger to rock, attitude... ), Depeche Mode, etc...
I'm happy with the Pixies, but Nirvana in third position and the Pixies in sixth... A little bit disturbing for me (even if I'm aware that Nirvana were more famous than the Pixies). |
vilainde |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 07:46:00 I have 4 of these (Public Enemy, Pixies, Husker Du, Sonic Youth). It's not a bad list IMO but it lacks the more electronic stuff (where's Massive Attack's Blue Lines? It definitely belongs here)
Denis
I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul! |
andrewface |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 07:22:21 yea....that list aint looking so good.... do you have a link to the rest of it? |
Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 01:23:51 Pfff... Pavement... Radiohead... Beastie's boys... Not sure if it is good for the pixies to be in the midst of that collection...
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shineoftheever |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 23:40:30 can u guess which two i don't own? i'm counting rid of me as owning because i've been down loading PJ and i will get it soon.
The waxworks were an immensely eloquent dissertation on the wonderful ordinariness of mankind. |
ccuadros |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 18:19:06 absolutely deserved, should have been number 2, bossanova is number 1....(for me :P) |
kathryn |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 17:47:09 quote: Originally posted by Llamadance
I don't own a Smiths album, apart from Hatful of Hollow on tape, so I've no idea what's better or not.
Llamandance, you handsome devil:
Hatful of Hollow kicks ass, but it was released in '84, a year before Spin's random cutoff date, so it doesn't qualify. Bastards.
quote: Originally posted by jangis
OK, I have to defend De La Soul. 3 Feet High and Rising is just an amazing album. And if you follow hip hop (not even going to call myself an expert since I'm a casual fan at best) the production helped change the sound of hip hop after it was released. Well deserving of a top ten spot. Although I'd put both Doolittle and Surfer Rosa in the top ten so I wouldn't say the list is perfect to me ...
Thanks for explaining. I may have to locate that and listen to it again.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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jangis |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 17:24:21 OK, I have to defend De La Soul. 3 Feet High and Rising is just an amazing album. And if you follow hip hop (not even going to call myself an expert since I'm a casual fan at best) the production helped change the sound of hip hop after it was released. Well deserving of a top ten spot. Although I'd put both Doolittle and Surfer Rosa in the top ten so I wouldn't say the list is perfect to me ... |
kathryn |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 16:05:17 I won't k-pow you, speedy, but I will have to break up with you. It can never work out between us, if you don't adore the Moz, as I do. I am *sob* so sorry and so heartbroken but we must part ways.
P.S. Only two good tunes on Quarry: "Last of the Gang" and "Irish Blood, English Heart." Do you have Vauxhall and I?
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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speedy_m |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 15:56:21 K, please don't kathryn-pow me, but I've never heard a Smiths album in it's entirety. A few songs here and there, and that's it. But I bought You Are the Quarry, and I will listen to it!
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Llamadance |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 15:41:03 From that list....
The Bends > OK Computer The Unforgettable Fire > Achtung Baby (just) Around The World In A Day > Sign Of The Times
I'm not even sure if Rid of Me is the best pj harvey album really.
I'll leave the obvious Pixies and Nirvana debates, but Surfer Rosa is a better album than Nevermind by a long, long way.
I don't own a Smiths album, apart from Hatful of Hollow on tape, so I've no idea what's better or not.
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kathryn |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 15:31:13 Will you agree to there being a better Smiths album than The Queen is Dead?
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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speedy_m |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 14:20:13 Well I'll agree to that.
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kathryn |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 13:55:52 What's wrong with De la soul is that they did not make one of the best albums of the last 20 years, is what's wrong with De la soul.
imho
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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speedy_m |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 13:46:36 I regularly listen to one, maybe two of those albums. Maybe 3. Anway, what's wrong with De La Soul?
watch me jumpstart as the old skin is peeled |
Carl |
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tomwhite |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 10:58:52 nice to see surfa rosa getting some kudos instead of doolittle for once (not that i dislike it of course) |