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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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 Posted - 07/19/2005 : 10:06:34
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The July issue of Spin includes the magazine's 100 greatest albums 1985-now:
1. Radiohead - OK Computer
2. Public Enemy - It takes a nation of million to hold us back
3. Nirvana - Nevermind
4. Pavement - Slanted and enchanted
5. The Smiths - The queen is dead
6. The Pixies - Surfer Rosa
7. De la soul - 3 feet high and rising
8. Prince - Sign 'o' the times
9. PJ Harvey - Rid of me
10. NWA - Straight outta Compton
11. U2 - Achtung baby
12. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
13. Husker Du - New Day Rising*
14. Sonic Youth - Daydream nation
15. Liz Phair -Exile in Guyville
Quote from Frank: " I don't even know what I think about Surfer Rosa. But obviously it has staying power like a Velvet Underground or Iggy Pop record. They're not as famous as their big brothers, but go to a record store anywhere in the world and there's probably a copy there. It's the best of both worlds: fame, plus street cred."
The Husker Du entry includes this fun tidbit: "Black Francis claimed that when he formed the Pixies he owend five albums, three by Husker Du. Still Hart was chastised for accidentally eating Francis' dressing-room yogurt after a festival in the 90s."
As is always the case with these compilations, they've included some clunkers. De la soul? Gimme a break.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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tomwhite
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 10:58:52
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| nice to see surfa rosa getting some kudos instead of doolittle for once (not that i dislike it of course) |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 11:01:06
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 13:46:36
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I regularly listen to one, maybe two of those albums. Maybe 3. Anway, what's wrong with De La Soul?
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 13:55:52
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What's wrong with De la soul is that they did not make one of the best albums of the last 20 years, is what's wrong with De la soul.
imho
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 14:20:13
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Well I'll agree to that.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 15:31:13
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Will you agree to there being a better Smiths album than The Queen is Dead?
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 15:41:03
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From that list....
The Bends > OK Computer
The Unforgettable Fire > Achtung Baby (just)
Around The World In A Day > Sign Of The Times
I'm not even sure if Rid of Me is the best pj harvey album really.
I'll leave the obvious Pixies and Nirvana debates, but Surfer Rosa is a better album than Nevermind by a long, long way.
I don't own a Smiths album, apart from Hatful of Hollow on tape, so I've no idea what's better or not.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 15:56:21
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K, please don't kathryn-pow me, but I've never heard a Smiths album in it's entirety. A few songs here and there, and that's it. But I bought You Are the Quarry, and I will listen to it!
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 16:05:17
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I won't k-pow you, speedy, but I will have to break up with you. It can never work out between us, if you don't adore the Moz, as I do. I am *sob* so sorry and so heartbroken but we must part ways.
P.S. Only two good tunes on Quarry: "Last of the Gang" and "Irish Blood, English Heart." Do you have Vauxhall and I?
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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jangis
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 17:24:21
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| OK, I have to defend De La Soul. 3 Feet High and Rising is just an amazing album. And if you follow hip hop (not even going to call myself an expert since I'm a casual fan at best) the production helped change the sound of hip hop after it was released. Well deserving of a top ten spot. Although I'd put both Doolittle and Surfer Rosa in the top ten so I wouldn't say the list is perfect to me ... |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 17:47:09
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Originally posted by Llamadance
I don't own a Smiths album, apart from Hatful of Hollow on tape, so I've no idea what's better or not.
Llamandance, you handsome devil:
Hatful of Hollow kicks ass, but it was released in '84, a year before Spin's random cutoff date, so it doesn't qualify. Bastards.
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Originally posted by jangis
OK, I have to defend De La Soul. 3 Feet High and Rising is just an amazing album. And if you follow hip hop (not even going to call myself an expert since I'm a casual fan at best) the production helped change the sound of hip hop after it was released. Well deserving of a top ten spot. Although I'd put both Doolittle and Surfer Rosa in the top ten so I wouldn't say the list is perfect to me ...
Thanks for explaining. I may have to locate that and listen to it again.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 18:19:06
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| absolutely deserved, should have been number 2, bossanova is number 1....(for me :P) |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 23:40:30
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can u guess which two i don't own? i'm counting rid of me as owning because i've been down loading PJ and i will get it soon.
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 01:23:51
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Pfff... Pavement... Radiohead... Beastie's boys... Not sure if it is good for the pixies to be in the midst of that collection...
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andrewface
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 07:22:21
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yea....that list aint looking so good....
do you have a link to the rest of it? |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 07:46:00
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I have 4 of these (Public Enemy, Pixies, Husker Du, Sonic Youth). It's not a bad list IMO but it lacks the more electronic stuff (where's Massive Attack's Blue Lines? It definitely belongs here)
Denis
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number 13
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 15:22:52
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Originally posted by vilainde
I have 4 of these (Public Enemy, Pixies, Husker Du, Sonic Youth). It's not a bad list IMO but it lacks the more electronic stuff (where's Massive Attack's Blue Lines? It definitely belongs here)
Denis
I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
Exactly the same for me. But there are lots of absent like Jane's Addiction, Guns N Roses (they were really famous and brought again danger to rock, attitude... ), Depeche Mode, etc...
I'm happy with the Pixies, but Nirvana in third position and the Pixies in sixth... A little bit disturbing for me (even if I'm aware that Nirvana were more famous than the Pixies). |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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andrewface
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 21:02:55
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huh that only goes to 50??
wheres the top 50? |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 04:07:13
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I think it's one of those evil online subscription thingies.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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jangis
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 12:56:27
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Here is the complete list for all to discuss ...
Spin's Top 100
1. Radiohead- OK Computer- 1997
2. Public Enemy- It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back- 1998
3. Nirvana- Nevermind- 1991
4. Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted- 1992
5. The Smiths- The Queen is Dead- 1986
6. Pixies- Surfer Rosa- 1988
7. De La Soul- 3 Feet High and Rising-1989
8. Prince- Sign ‘o’ the Times-1987
9. PJ Harvey- Rid of Me- 1993
10. N.W.A- Straight Outta Compton- 1988
11. U2- Achtung Baby-1991
12. Beastie Boys- Paul’s Boutique- 1989
13. Hüsker Dü- New Day Rising- 1985
14. Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation- 1988
15. Liz Phair- Exile in Guyville- 1993
16. Beck- Odelay- 1996
17. Nas- Illmatic- 1994
18. Guns N’ roses- Appetite for Destruction- 1987
19. Hole- Live Through This- 1994
20. Wu-Tang Clan- Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)- 1993
21. Public Enemy- Fear of a Black Planet- 1990
22. My Bloody Valentine- Loveless- 1991
23. Outkast- Stankonia- 2000
24. Sleater-Kinney- Dig Me Out- 1997
25. Nine Inch Nails- The Downward Spiral- 1994
26. Björk- Post-1995
27. The Cure- The Head on the Door- 1985
28. Oasis- Definitely Maybe- 1994
29. Fugazi- 13 Songs- 1989
30. The Notorious B.I.G.- Ready to Die- 1994
31. Dinosaur Jr. You’re Living All Over Me- 1987
32. The Replacements- Tim- 1985
33. Ice Cube- AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted-1990
34. Elliott Smith- Either/Or- 1997
35. Dr. Dre- The Chronic- 1992
36. Pixies- Doolittle- 1989
37. Guided By Voices- Bee Thousand- 1994
38. A Tribe Called Quest- The Low End Theory- 1991
39. Lucinda Williams- Lucinda Williams-1988
40. Run- D.M.C.- Raising Hell- 1986
41. Smashing Pumpkins- Siamese Dream-1993
42. Jane’s Addiction- Nothing Shocking- 1988
43. Boogie Down Productions- Criminal Minded- 1987
44. Greenday- Dookie- 1994
45. Kanye West- College Dropout- 2004
46. The Fall- This Nation’s Saving Grace- 1985
47. Eric B. & Rakim- Paid in Full- 1987
48. Radiohead- Kid A- 2000
49. Lauryn Hill- The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill- 1998
50. New Order- Low-Life- 1985
51. Nirvana- In Utero-1993
52. Beastie Boys- Licensed to III- 1986
53. Rage Against the Machine- The Battle of Los Angeles- 1999
54. The Breeders- Last Splash- 1993
55. The Chemical Brothers- Dig Your Own Hole- 1997
56. PJ Harvey- To Bring You My Love- 1995
57. The White Stripes- White Blood Cells- 2001
58. Metallica- Master of Puppets- 1986
59. Modest Mouse- The Lonesome Crowded West- 1997
60. De La Soul- De La Soul is Dead- 1991
61. Weezer- Pinkerton- 1996
62. Missy Elliott- Supa Dupa Fly- 1997
63. Pavement- Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain- 1994
64. Eminem- The Marshall Mathers LP- 2000
65. Basement Jaxx- Remedy- 1999
66. Outkast- Aquemini- 1998
67. Slayer- Reign in Blood- 1986
68. Tricky- Maxiquaye- 1995
69. DJ Shadow- Entroducing DJ Shadow- 1996
70. Jay-Z- The Blueprint- 2001
71. The Jesus and Mary Chain- Psychocandy-1985
72. Raekwon- Only Built 4 Cuban Linx- 1995
73. Pulp- Different Class- 1995
74. Portishead- Dummy- 1994
75. Le Tigre- Le Tigre- 1999
76. Belle and Sebastian- If You’re Feeling Sinister- 1997
77. Wilco- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot-2002
78. The Stone Roses- The Stone Roses- 1989
79. Moby- Everything is Wrong- 1995
80. D’Angelo- Voodoo- 2000
81. Beck- Mellow Gold- 1994
82. Jeff Buckley- Grace- 1994
83. At the Drive-In- Relationship of Command-2000
84. Sound-Garden- Superunknown- 1994
85. R.E.M.- Automatic for the People- 1992
86. Meat Puppets- Up on the Sun- 1985
87. Blur- Parklife- 1994
88. Stereolab- Emperor Tomato Ketchup- 1996
89. Yeah Yeah Yeahs- Fever to Tell- 2003
90. Sonic Youth- Sister- 1987
91. XTC- Skylarking- 1986
92. Big Black- Atomizer- 1986
93. Pearl Jam- Ten- 1991
94. Slint- Spiderland- 1991
95. Elastica- Elastica- 1995
96. The Pogues- Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash- 1985
97. Neutral Milk Hotel- In the Aeroplane over the Sea- 1998
98. Corner-Shop- When I was Born for the 7th Time- 1997
99. Afghan Whigs- Gentlemen- 1993
100. The Strokes- Is This It- 2001
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 15:23:59
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Bizarre stuff in there, but whats the point in picking over it?
All I can say is Rum Sodomy & The Lash? 96? Are you mad?
How's that for a slice of fried gold? |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2005 : 15:36:36
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Don't start!
Nas, Wu-Tang, Sleater-Kinney's Dig Me Out all ranked above Doolittle?
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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jangis
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 17:29:50
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| The Replacements-Tim is way too low as well. Tim is so amazing. Then again I'm a sucker for the mats. But for me Doolittle would be number 1 easily. The fight for #2 would be a tough one though. |
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 18:19:05
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what the fuck is automatic for the people doin at 85
"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2005 : 01:15:56
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Well... a big part of it is a big batch of craps....
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leokearse
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/22/2005 : 05:04:21
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This seems to be a list of albums that would make people who read Spin magazine think you were cool if they saw them on your Habitat perspex coffee table. Where are all the albums that are fun to listen to? Happy Mondays - Pills'n'Thrills'n'Bellyaches? Manu Chao - Proxima Estacion Esperanza? Sleepy Jackson - Lovers? Teenager of the Year?
"Fun" beats "whiny studenty indie cool" any day of the week.
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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Posted - 07/22/2005 : 05:26:03
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/22/2005 : 06:29:26
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Yes, that's what I say... Totally silly... Pavement... pfff....
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2005 : 06:30:25
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And Radiotête... Come on everyone!!!! Turn off that Radiohead!!!!
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Mickey
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USA
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Posted - 07/29/2005 : 13:56:21
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Originally posted by leokearse
Sleepy Jackson - Lovers?
Seriously, even though it's only about a year old that album deffinatley should be included in the top 100 of the last 20 years. I mean, c'mon, it's better than Exile in Guyville which is apparently #15. The point is Luke Steele rules.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 07/29/2005 : 18:14:21
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Well it is cool that Surfer made #6 the others should have been on the list. Glad to see Doolittle was represented.
Glad to see hip hop was represented, because in many cases that was the next shiznet of what was going on at the time... nice to see BDP, De La, Nas, & Public Enemy on there. But where was Tribe?? Hello! Jay Z, I don't know if he should have made the list.
I was suprised that Actung Baby made it on there and not Joshua Tree??? Travesty.
Nice to see more interms of gender representation, but there is still a long way until ladies in music get the credit they're due.
As far as the Smiths debate goes... I would have had Louder than Bombs in there... I think that makes the date cut off.
Surprised the Sugarcubes didn't make the list as well as a lot of really good bands like the Misfits and Violent Femmes... but maybe that didn't make the cut off either. |
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Surfer Rosa #6 on Spin's 100 greatest albums
