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| dslator |
Posted - 03/14/2004 : 12:50:34
I have this horrible feeling that the only reason the Pixies are reforming is financial.
Is there anyone out there who can convince me otherwise  |
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| stoptapspin |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 16:07:38
i'm from winnipeg. |
| PixiesDeal |
Posted - 04/14/2004 : 01:12:55
ooo, bluedoo, you are from Austin area? That is TOO cool!! hehe.
I am planning to fly from CA to see them back at my home turf for the Austin City Limits Festival:) i can't wait for that and Coachella :)
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| bluedoo |
Posted - 04/13/2004 : 20:17:25
Yea! Hooray!
I'm GLAD the Pixies still want my money. I can count on my hand how many bands I'd actually spend money on seeing perform. I could give a shit less WHY they want to re group and tour.
NOW... the real problem. getting tickets when all the rich fanboys already fucking bought them all. How many shows are already sold out?
Guess it's best to stay home and listen to ze records, eh?
Saw frank in Austin, TX. Fucking unbelieveable!
Mateo |
| hec |
Posted - 04/13/2004 : 13:49:04
if it is for money i don't care,they deserve to be rich.
its a sad world when people like linkin park and nickleback are richer than the pixies.just my opinion..hec |
| punji |
Posted - 04/13/2004 : 12:15:33
i think it just a joke
i am king shit of fuck mountain, why would you fuck with me? -god |
| IceCream |
Posted - 04/12/2004 : 23:09:08
quote:
Originally posted by Obvious song reference
The Pixies didn't just get back together for money, they're doing it for that show on VH1, Bands Reunited. Just like Kajagoogoo!
Do you actually know this as a fact, or is this a joke?
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| PixiesDeal |
Posted - 04/10/2004 : 01:32:59
yeah, right on Rita. Have fun at the show:)
"When people ask me what band I'm in and I say The Pixies, they say, 'Oh, it's an all-girl group, right?' I guess the name is pretty wimpy"-Kim Deal |
| n/a |
Posted - 04/09/2004 : 07:58:11
At least they are honest and they tell the truth!
I´ve already bought the tickets to see them in Lisbon, can´t wait to see the pixies together again
rita.r |
| PixiesDeal |
Posted - 04/09/2004 : 01:34:18
I am just happy that they got back together, that is ALL I am looking forward to. Coachella, maybe the Austin City Limits Festival and the Fall tour. :)
Let's just look at the happy side of things...they are BACK together guys. NO ONE expected this to happen ya know.
"When people ask me what band I'm in and I say The Pixies, they say, 'Oh, it's an all-girl group, right?' I guess the name is pretty wimpy"-Kim Deal |
| VoVat |
Posted - 04/04/2004 : 16:19:42
Damn it! When will the Pixies stop ripping off Kajagoogoo?
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| Obvious song reference |
Posted - 04/04/2004 : 08:48:49
The Pixies didn't just get back together for money, they're doing it for that show on VH1, Bands Reunited. Just like Kajagoogoo! |
| Newo |
Posted - 04/04/2004 : 07:00:50
Just reread that. Wow what a rant. I guess it was a roundabout way of saying for me idealism is the notion that these days the relation between what we pay and what we get is anything other than arbitrary.
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Fallopian twinkled. "They accuse us of being paranoids."
"They?" inquired Metzger, twinkling also.
"Us?" asked Oedipa.
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| Newo |
Posted - 03/28/2004 : 09:54:07
quote:
Money is something you consider in pretty much every other thought. because it is the core of civilisation and humanity in general...
Imagine it: Long long time ago there were two islands trading with each other. Sometimes they traded gold, sometimes silver, sometimes crop harvests, whatever was convenient at the time. The upshot was you got what you paid for. Along come a bunch of goldsmiths who tell the natives of both islands "Say we've got a better idea. Why don't you give us all the gold silver and whatnot and to save you carrying those heavy loads back and forth we'll give you these pieces of paper to the worth of all your valuables."
As this practice became more popular, it struck the goldsmiths that, at any one time, only a fraction of the gold was actually being withdrawn, so they took a chance and decided to start issuing these paper receipts to people who didn't have gold lodged with them and charging them interest. In fact, they began to issue receipts for money greatly in excess of the money they had in their vaults. The only way they would get caught would be if everyone went to the goldsmiths at once and demanded their gold back. But because the islanders only withdrew small amounts at a time the goldsmiths were able to get away with charging people interest for money that does not exist, creating money simply by writing it in a ledger, or today typing it onto a computer screen. Since the goldsmiths, now calling themselves banks, still felt themselves vulnerable to being caught out on their ruse should too many people say "Uh I'd like all my money please," they introduced regulations which allow a bank to close if too many people turn up to say just that. If a bank has 1,000 $/€/whatever in their vaults they can lend up to ten times that amount, and if they call the debt and you can't pay, they have the right to take your land, your home, your car. Whole nations have been sunk into debt in this fashion, and to give you an example, in 1933 the United States Federal Government was dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9 of that year, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. But of course it was in the goldsmiths interests to keep the fact that one of the largest countries in the world was now private property hushhush. Just an instance of the worlds wealth being sucked into the control of the banking elite, in case you ever wondered why it is becoming harder and harder for most people to get by with each passing year, amazing abilities or not?
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"You one of those right-wing nut outfits?" inquired the diplomatic Metzger.
Fallopian twinkled. "They accuse us of being paranoids."
"They?" inquired Metzger, twinkling also.
"Us?" asked Oedipa.
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| TameReg |
Posted - 03/28/2004 : 07:11:52
This "sell out" stuff is ridiculous. All they did was get back together. Is it automatically a "sell out" when a band reunites? It's not like they're doing Pepsi commercials. |
| freakin phreak |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 13:43:30
damn capitalism... |
| Mroocore |
Posted - 03/25/2004 : 16:12:05
quote:
Originally posted by Mroocore
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i did not mean this post as a slight, just a fact. no money no PIXIES reunion.
CAPITALISM MAKES THIS UNDERSTANDABLE |
| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 03/25/2004 : 07:58:16
Oh come on guys. Think about it.
This society, the world of today (well, not just of today..since the beginning I guess) is driven by money and personal finanacial gain - because surprise surprise we need money to survive, and our primal instincts motivate us to survive - however that is poosible.
Money is something you consider in pretty much every other thought. because it is the core of civilisation and humanity in general...
Peoplke critisize artists (painters/photographers/film makers/writers et al as well as musicians) about sacrificing their artistic integrity for cash/fame. But This idealist view sickens me. People *should* be recognised for their talent, and be able to share it with the world, as well as making a living out of it to ensure they persue it and dont give it up to go work in a super market because it might pay more.
I mean, out of you guys, how many of you have and / or know people with amazing abilities who have decided to not persue them in favour of a 'real' job???
Fine the pixies are back together. Dont get me worng, im glad, as it means I get to see one of my all time favs, but once would be enough. Reunions generally worry me, because its stepping backwards - which terrifies me. Not progressing terrifies me. I can see why pixies are doing it, and im happy they are - mostly. but it would be nice for this to be a one off tour. and if not, maybe some new songs?
I can see why they wouldnt do that tho. I mean, they will get a lot of money out of this whether they do anything new or not, and can you imagine how intensely looked at and critisized any new material would be? Too much hassle. Plus, they are in different places to where they were when together in the pixies...it would sound completely different which would cause a lot of controversy.
I dont think there is anyone here who, in Franks positions would not have done the same thing - esp when that sort of amount of cash is so easily available.
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| whoreatthedoor |
Posted - 03/19/2004 : 00:02:05
I was a little upset for the reunion thing, but... What the fuck? There are lots of non-talented "musicians" earning a lot of money they don't deserve. Why this four guys don't have to win some dollars for their amazing job? Think of it, they're not rock superstars right now. If they were, I will hate them for doing this. |
| CmabanK |
Posted - 03/18/2004 : 21:36:08
Sellouts? not the Pixies...Looking for gain, possibly, but who isn't? If they couldn't gain in some way why would they continue...We all do it day after day. I'd venture to say that we don't bring the same happiness to lives and moods that FB and the Gang do, so by all means let them be paid...They make it possible for all of us to be here and voicing our opinion about what great things they've brought to us in our lives...I for one think that its well deserved even though I don't believe its purely financial. Keep making great music and bringing us something to smile about :)
 "Like Jesus Christ on the hill / I'll be Blue."
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| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 03/18/2004 : 19:03:00
once again i think the most appropriate thing would be to quote "Hooker With a Penis" for you guys but i think you can go look it up yourself using google or going to toolshed.down.net
k? |
| shineoftheever |
Posted - 03/18/2004 : 17:34:10
i kinda hope they don't put out a new album, look what happened with jane's addiction (sorry guys, that album after they reformed sucks) and the stone roses even (five years and the expectations were just too high) - however, a great album from the pixies would not surprise me at all.
"My upbringing gets me down" |
| VoVat |
Posted - 03/18/2004 : 15:39:05
I don't think an album INTENDED to appeal to the masses would necessarily be selling out. I think most musicians want their music to be heard by as much of the public as possible. Now, if the Pixies jumped on the latest bandwagon to make a quick buck, I think THAT could be considered selling out.
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| The Calistanian |
Posted - 03/18/2004 : 13:40:18
They have not sold-out by reuniting. If they put out an album that was intended to appeal to the masses, that would be selling out. But as of yet, they're doing all of their old songs, which are not "sell-out" songs. I mean, at this point, the reaction to their reuniting is out of their control. There's no way for them to go back to the way they were, in partial obscurity, in the late 80's. They can't control the hype that follows them.
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| freakin phreak |
Posted - 03/17/2004 : 18:41:57
i dont see how everyone can say this is all for the money. it cant all be for the money, but i bet its got something to do with it. i agree with monitormodule, the pixies are a business, like every band to put out records. if the whole tour was focusing on making money, however, they wouldnt be playing ump-teen shows out in canada and the west coast, theyd be playing huge arena shows with other huge bands to open for them. we would see a slew of crappy pixies merchandise, such as tour tee shirts just to make a buck. they seem to want to keep this to a minimum, which i respect. alot. if they do decide to tour all 48 continental states, with ticket prices jacked up to like a hundred bucks (like the stones), id say that was selling out. |
| VoVat |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 13:54:29
They're really socking it to that Spiro Agnew guy again. He must work there or something.
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| El Barto |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 12:58:54
The all ighty ollar! HAHAHAH!
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| PsychicTwin |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 12:46:34
NimrodsSon & Stevio 10
Very well put, gentlemen.
To be concise....QUIT YER WHININ, everyone!
of course the Pixies are touring again (at least partially) for the money. At this point, it is pretty apparent that music is a CAREER for them. That entails getting paid for your labor, just like any other job. The Pixies (and more recently, Frank and Kim) have given their fans little to no reason to believe that they create music for anything other than the sake of GOOD ROCK. You can hear it in the music, you can see it in their attitudes/MO's, and getting paid is incidental.
Fuck me with a donkey-dick and call me Susan if I wouldn't want to wake up every morning doing what I love and getting paid for it too...the Pixies have (at various personal degrees) achieved this goal. They just want to keep doing what they do. I have nothing but respect for that. |
| NimrodsSon |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 12:09:42
I'm as upset about the Pixies reunion as anyone, but I think even if it is entirely financial, there is a good reason. Frank just got in a divorce, it's no mystery that Franks solo albums don't sell very good, Frank has no way whatsoever to make money except by touring and putting out albums, if he is in desperate need of money right now, this might really be the only option he has. I think it's pretty obvious that the stuff he's put out in the past was not at all just for the money and that Frank loves music and doesn't give a flying fuck about pleasing the press or the critics or even the fans, but rather just doing what he wants to do. I think that the money he makes, besides the part that goes toward paying bills and other necessities, will be used for him to continue making music that he really wants to do NOT just for the money. Let's face it, if Frank was a sellout, he would have reformed the Pixies 5-10 years ago and he would've made music for his solo albums that sounded either more like the Pixies or a hell-of-a-lot more mainstreem instead of what he's been doing.
ˇViva los Católicos! |
| offerw |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 11:57:52
quote:
Originally posted by ShakeyShake
Not necessarily,they made good enough music to make a living off even without their pixies legacy
"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away
Their music was/is/will be good enough to earn them a living but being ex-Pixies I think made it easier for them to get record deals, write-ups etc.
wilhelm |
| ShakeyShake |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 11:49:00
Not necessarily,they made good enough music to make a living off even without their pixies legacy
"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away |
| offerw |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 10:39:00
They should be paid millions. I'd be particularly happy for Dave and Joey, they seemed to have been left behind after the Pixies split. Kim had the Breeders and Frank his solo stuff, they had record deals, they toured and they earned a living all because of the Pixies legacy.
wilhelm |
| monitormodule |
Posted - 03/16/2004 : 03:05:48
whoever started a business with the sole intent not to make money-pixies are a great band but nonetheless a business |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 03/15/2004 : 19:33:34
its amazing what you find time to write when you're supposed to be doing an assignment for the next day and havent started it! sorry for the long winded essay guys and girls, just trying to find some motivation :( |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 03/15/2004 : 19:31:14
There's a fine line between sell outs and indie gods. I mean, back when the pixies were around first, their biggest gigs (financially) were supporting U2. Now they are back on the scene some people are annoyed that they are sharing a stage with bands like radiohead, the darkness etc etc... Some people say these bands should be opening for the Pixies while others are saying sell out. Well, it's difficult to perceive because the pixies have always appeared to be a band that doesnt like to hog the limelight, as much or more so in their solo careers. Just because theyre back and their fanbase has grown in that time doesnt mean they should propel themselves to do what some bands have done. The Chilis for example, after One Hot Minute, came back with a massive bang (in a way that MTV and co drool over them) with Californication and though it alienated some of their fanbase it ultimately multiplied their fanbase because of the media frenzy and radio friendly vibe. On the contrary, the Pixies could be argued to have increased their fanbase the hard way, by merit as a quality band and influencing bands. It seems a lot cooler to have bands talk about a band from a "high culture" perspective if you will rather than some presenter cum critic cum wannabe rockstar (a la zane lowe). Im sure not that they asked to be namechecked, but it puts more credibility on the band to care more for the music rather than the promotion of their product that is not their music, ie image or even their legacy. I don't think the Pixies are cashing in on their legacy, but it would provide them with a platform to supply more of what they have done with the pixies and as solo artists yet hopefully keeping their charm as a cool indie band. It's hard to be successful yet retain respectability in a fickle business. |
| i_bleed |
Posted - 03/15/2004 : 14:47:03
I dunno about the Pixies, but Dean and Gene Ween are bound together for life by orders of the Boognish. I think Gene tried to leave the band once, but the swift and heavy consequences forced him back in. Maybe the Boognish is contracting out to other bands?
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