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| Classic Masher |
Posted - 07/04/2013 : 05:40:33
How is everyone listening to Bagboy? I've burned it onto a cd as part of a compilation of Pixies (and Pixies-related) songs that weren't on LP's or Complete B-sides. This is the track list FYI:
1 Draw Attention (Pre-Pixies demo)
2 Gemini (Pre-Pixies demo)
3 Keeping In Time (Pre-Pixies demo)
4 Silhouette (Pre-Pixies demo)
5 Boom Chicka Boom (Fall Out Shelter version)
6 Rock A My Soul (Purple Tape version)
7 Wild Honey Pie (At the BBC)
8 I Can't Forget (I'm Your Man)
9 Hang On To Your Ego (At the BBC outtake)
10 Born In Chicago (Rubayait)
11 Velvety (Devil's Workshop version)
12 Into the White (FBF version)
13 Bam Thwok
14 Ain't That Pretty at All (Enjoy Every Sandwich)
15 Been All Around the World (Newport Folk Festival)
16 In Heaven (Live- Kim sings)
17 All Around the World (BF live version)
18 Cover of Rolling Stone (BF & JS)
19 Bagboy
20 Andro Queen (BF & JD youtube rip)
21 Greens and Blues (BF youtube rip)
22 Classic Masher (BF & KS youtube rip)
23 Silver Snail (BF youtube rip)
24 Indie Cindy (BF youtube rip)
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| Discoking |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 21:34:35
so, pot, first you falsely accused them of having those backing vocals in an attempt to sound exactly like kim deal. in my opinion, that's not a very nice thing to do.
but then, when charles was kind enough not to be offended by this, and instead explained that the backing vocals - that weren't planned to even be recorded - were used because they all liked them, you still manage to read that as "they sounded like kim deal, and that's why we used them." i find that rather shocking, really. it is as if you didn't even (want to?) read the reply. too happy you got a reply from the man himself, that it didn't really matter what it said?
and when people reacted to your fallacious first post, you're all like "oh, i'm a rebel, this is how i am, don't try to censor me."
ha. you're quite the character, pot.
 it's educational |
| natenate101 |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 09:38:53
quote:
Originally posted by Discoking
they were never on that road.
it's educational
Exactly. |
| Discoking |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 08:12:38
they were never on that road.
it's educational |
| pot |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 06:45:59
Fair enough. I just don't want them to go down that road for the album, would rather have a new Kim, you know. |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 05:13:19
Yeah, it wasn't intentional
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| eroticvultcha |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 02:46:53
He's clearly saying the KD-like vocals were a happy accident. Makes you wonder what the backing vox for rest of the new stuff sounds like...
 "I've got my own gas tanks." |
| pot |
Posted - 07/08/2013 : 01:08:54
quote:
Originally posted by Discoking
quote:
Originally posted by pot
I mean why bother trying to make Kim sounding backing vocals, just get another female vocalist in with her own style and I'm sure it'll sound great, there's plenty of them out there.
who says that it was their intention to make the backing vocals sound like kim deal? that's your (false?) assumption.
it's educational
*Aherm*
quote:
Originally posted by blckfrncs
quote:
Originally posted by pot
Ok then. How and what was the point in getting a man to sing backing vocals, only to then make them sound exactly like a Kim Deal sample?
hi, pot (and everyone else!)
Just to clarify: mr. dubs has assisted me on several demos. On a demo for bagboy he sang some bv's (while I was on an errand), and when I came back there is the same exact vox track we are discussing. I did notice that it had sounded like k deal. and I liked it. I kept it. and when the rest of the band and gil norton heard it, they liked it, too, and, so, we kept it. there is no agenda here except to make cool rock music.
bf
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| Discoking |
Posted - 07/07/2013 : 23:51:55
quote:
Originally posted by pot
I mean why bother trying to make Kim sounding backing vocals, just get another female vocalist in with her own style and I'm sure it'll sound great, there's plenty of them out there.
who says that it was their intention to make the backing vocals sound like kim deal? that's your (false?) assumption.
it's educational |
| pot |
Posted - 07/07/2013 : 14:56:25
OK cheers. Might try to give them another listen and find the singing in between Waxahatchee and Speedy Ortiz. |
| Jose Jones |
Posted - 07/07/2013 : 14:54:10
they are 45s (i think, 2 of them), released earlier this year. and she doesn't sing on Dirty Hessians at all.
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they were the heroes of old, men of renown. |
| pot |
Posted - 07/07/2013 : 14:40:01
When the hell did Kim release a new album and why doesn't she sing on any of the tracks until half way through the songs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlk7tdfSEL8 |
| Jose Jones |
Posted - 07/07/2013 : 14:26:55
i love Kim's new songs.
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they were the heroes of old, men of renown. |
| pot |
Posted - 07/07/2013 : 12:34:25
I watched a clip of Pixies in 2005 from the loud quiet loud documentary, forget which song it was but it didn't have the same energy as in 1988. Frank's guitar style was more lazy as well, he was strumming the riff as down-up-down etc. as opposed to down-down (which requires twice as fast wrist action and produces a slightly different effect). It was less punky and edgy and in your face and just didn't work as before. remember in th eold days when he used to play the guitar and his arms looked to small for his body?
I just feel like BagBoy is too forced, it's a bit fake really. I mean why bother trying to make Kim sounding backing vocals, just get another female vocalist in with her own style and I'm sure it'll sound great, there's plenty of them out there. |
| ruzom |
Posted - 07/07/2013 : 12:27:31
I always thought Angst had quite a Pixies feel in some way. I'd be very curious to hear a new noisy version with Joey on electric guitar and a screamed chorus, for example. "... feeling of AAAAANNGST". But we're not in 88 anymore :\ |
| Discoking |
Posted - 07/07/2013 : 01:37:04
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
The name of this topic is so wrong, it should be, "check out my list of b-sides, demos, rares etc."
agreed.
it's educational |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 19:47:49
I saw them play with only dual pedal steel guitars on Monkey Gone to Heaven, Rich and EDF, was good. I also rememeber Nimrod's they would slow down the second chorus way down. Best band on earth at the time. |
| danjersey |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 19:45:38
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
The name of this topic is so wrong, it should be, "check out my list of b-sides, demos, rares etc." Also, it sound really fucking...
going VoVat on this shit
what's the matter, bagboy got your tongue? |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 18:59:59
I think Wave was played in 98, 99 and in 02 but I don't know if it went beyond that. I think Gouge, Nimrod, Holiday etc. were played a lot in 01 through 03. Velvety and Dance. were mainly in 01. Cactus I'm pretty sure, was only played in 03.
Even though there were the core ones, through 01 to 03 that were played a lot, if not at every show, I still loved hearing them. I think the Catholics did an amazing job with the songs, the variety of instruments were able to flesh out/expand the songs in a way the Pixies four piece didn't.
Check out this verison of Gouge from 01.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBXYjtcreTA
The heavy drums at the intro, the tension, building and building before Frank sings, is incredible. Yes, the Pixies exteneded the intro to Gouge a bit in 91, but ten years later, the Catholics really took the song to another level.
Like I said before, the sparse pedal steel guitar version of Monkey is incredible. Maybe someone on here can share it. In that version, they go the opposite way of Gouge, while that song is more bombastic, this one reduces the song till it's just Frank and the pedal steels (I don't know if Scott plays on it), revealing just how strong the foundation of the song is, how Frank was able to do so much with so few elements.
Cactus gave Rich a chance to shred the solo!
In each case, the band was able to make these covers their own and at the same time, show how awesome Frank's solo and Catholic songs were; they all felt of a piece; especially when blasted out sans set list, one after another.
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| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 17:55:17
yeah, Cactus, Gouge Away, Mr. Grieves... those 8 or so were almost every show it seemed...
going VoVat on this shit |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 17:52:16
Wave surf version/Nimrod/Monkey---regular and sparse pedal steel version: highly recommended/Where is/Cactus/Gouge/Velvety Instrumental Version/Mr. Grieves/Holiday/Dance the Manta Ray/Crackity Jones/Caribou
That's all the ones I'm aware of... |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 17:04:40
The name of this topic is so wrong, it should be, "check out my list of b-sides, demos, rares etc." Also, it sound really fucking...
There is not a single Catholics song that has ever reminded me of a Pixies song.
I would be interested in a list of Pixies songs the Catholics played live: Wave of Mutilation, Nimrod's Son, Monkey Gone to Heaven, Where is My Mind... what else... also which Orange/TOTY/COR songs they played too, I'd be curious to know, so pot could burn it onto a double disc for me and mail to me at least
going VoVat on this shit |
| Classic Masher |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 16:39:51
quote:
Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm
quote:
Originally posted by Classic Masher
My Frank Black & The Catholics "Pixilated" compilation:
All My Ghosts
Bad Harmony
Blast Off
Bullet
Hermaphraditos
I Love Your Brain
I Need Peace
I Think I'm Starting To Lose It
I Want Rock n Roll
Jaques Tati
Jumping Beans (Kitchen Tapes version)
Modern Age
Steak n' Sabre
The Black Rider
Tiny Heart
Velvety
Whispering Weeds
I also included some FB solo tracks that weren't included on albums or compilations. Also, has anyone ever noticed how many songs FB has that begin with "I"...
"Mixed messages from Sir Naff, please authenticate..."
The box set track listing will be interesting with all the "I" songs in a row.
I guess I understand what you're saying but it could be that after years of listening, there's a firm line between the Pixies and the Catholics for me.
Even when they did one of their excellent covers of Gouge Away (or Nimrods or...), it never sounded like the Pixies to me. I guess I can kinda see your p.o.v. with Bullet, Mondern Age and Blast-Off, but ehh...not that it matters but I don't know.
I don't think anyone on here's ever offered up this idea before; is it lyric based, or music based for you or both?
It's a combination of music and lyrics e.g. music to Bullet is very Pixies-ish but with All My Ghosts it's more lyrical content (mythology, religion, sex).
Matto- You're welcome.
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| matto |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 16:02:57
thank you millions!!!!
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| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 15:57:35
quote:
Originally posted by Classic Masher
My Frank Black & The Catholics "Pixilated" compilation:
All My Ghosts
Bad Harmony
Blast Off
Bullet
Hermaphraditos
I Love Your Brain
I Need Peace
I Think I'm Starting To Lose It
I Want Rock n Roll
Jaques Tati
Jumping Beans (Kitchen Tapes version)
Modern Age
Steak n' Sabre
The Black Rider
Tiny Heart
Velvety
Whispering Weeds
I also included some FB solo tracks that weren't included on albums or compilations. Also, has anyone ever noticed how many songs FB has that begin with "I"...
"Mixed messages from Sir Naff, please authenticate..."
The box set track listing will be interesting with all the "I" songs in a row.
I guess I understand what you're saying but it could be that after years of listening, there's a firm line between the Pixies and the Catholics for me.
Even when they did one of their excellent covers of Gouge Away (or Nimrods or...), it never sounded like the Pixies to me. I guess I can kinda see your p.o.v. with Bullet, Mondern Age and Blast-Off, but ehh...not that it matters but I don't know.
I don't think anyone on here's ever offered up this idea before; is it lyric based, or music based for you or both?
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| pot |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 13:22:36
Is it just me or am I the only person who listens to Pixies songs in different orders? |
| Classic Masher |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 13:08:52
quote:
Originally posted by pot
Yes but where are your ears? On your feet, head, where...?
Here's my Pixies compilation as requested:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pr3cookz4xh0xkp/Pixies.rar
"Mixed messages from Sir Naff, please authenticate..." |
| pot |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 11:37:48
Yes but where are your ears? On your feet, head, where...? |
| simibaby |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 11:37:02
with my ears |
| pot |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 08:22:08
My mate Spider listens to it with his feet. |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 08:03:14
Ha, yeah, I disliked that lyric instantly.
 "If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
| trobrianders |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 05:54:21
Nobody's said they're listening to Bagboy with their ears. I guess that's a good thing.
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| matto |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 05:34:24
that's a helluva CD
I 2nd the request for an upload of some sort (especially because I lost my copy of the 4 pre-pixie demos)... humbly requesting!
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| Classic Masher |
Posted - 07/06/2013 : 05:27:21
My Frank Black & The Catholics "Pixilated" compilation:
All My Ghosts
Bad Harmony
Blast Off
Bullet
Hermaphraditos
I Love Your Brain
I Need Peace
I Think I'm Starting To Lose It
I Want Rock n Roll
Jaques Tati
Jumping Beans (Kitchen Tapes version)
Modern Age
Steak n' Sabre
The Black Rider
Tiny Heart
Velvety
Whispering Weeds
I also included some FB solo tracks that weren't included on albums or compilations. Also, has anyone ever noticed how many songs FB has that begin with "I"...
"Mixed messages from Sir Naff, please authenticate..." |
| Jason |
Posted - 07/05/2013 : 19:26:45
I go to Youtube and I look it up.
I do wear a smoking jacket for the occasion. |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 07/05/2013 : 16:00:54
quote:
Originally posted by Classic Masher
I'm guessing some of you would HATE the one I made of FB+TC songs that sound like Pixies... :-P
Let's see it.
I think you may be the first person to actually say that some FB & the C's songs sound like the Pixies. I've heard the idea that some songs could've made excellent Pixies tracks (actually, I think Bullet is the only one I recall reading that about somewhere on here).
And more importantly, what does "Tearnecet" think of Bagboy?
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