| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| The New Bolero |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 22:17:13
Because the poor soul has never heard ANY of Frank's post-Pixies work, I told a guy I work with that I'd bring him a cd showing him just what he's been missing out on these past eleven years. Though I realize there are some unforgiveable omissions (only so much fits on a single 80-minute cd you know) I'd like to know how the readers of this board ("uber fans") think I did.
1.Ten Percenter 2.Los Angeles 3.Adda Lee 4.Calistan 5.Freedom Rock 6.Speedy Marie 7.Headache 8.Thalassocracy 9.Big Red 10.The Marsist 11.Better Things 12.The Man Who Was Too Loud 13.All My Ghosts 14.Steak N Sabre 15.Western Star 16.Billy Radcliffe 17.Bad Harmony 18.St. Francis Dam Disaster 19.If it Takes All Night 20.Black Letter Day 21.Nadine 22.Goodbye Lorraine 23.Sugar Daddy |
| 35 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| adda flea |
Posted - 11/10/2004 : 12:23:10
i've successfully converted two of my friends with a hastily arranged compilation, and now i have someone to drive me home from his shows. but i agree with the pessimists, this is usually a waste of time, the people you'd think would love him aren't interested. i've stopped turning people on to him too. |
| moro |
Posted - 10/27/2004 : 10:16:31
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
You're right. It's on one of the IDWTHY eps.
fumanbru, get it as soon as you can. It's perhaps my fave FB cover.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..."
exactly. It's on the ep I don't want to hurt you every single time. It's the version with red cover and blue disc ( there's also a version with blue cover and red disc, labeled as the Live Ep )...I think it's a european release only. |
| vilainde |
Posted - 10/27/2004 : 09:30:43
You're right. It's on one of the IDWTHY eps.
fumanbru, get it as soon as you can. It's perhaps my fave FB cover.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
| moro |
Posted - 10/27/2004 : 09:23:52
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
B-side to The Marsist 7" ep.
What's up with you guys putting You're Such a Wire in a FB comp? It's the worst song he has ever written and recorded, period.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..."
Better things was also published on a cd single not only 7", I have it at home, later I'll check |
| vilainde |
Posted - 10/27/2004 : 08:20:22
B-side to The Marsist 7" ep.
What's up with you guys putting You're Such a Wire in a FB comp? It's the worst song he has ever written and recorded, period.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
| moro |
Posted - 10/27/2004 : 08:00:26
quote:
Originally posted by fumanbru
i like your mix. but a monkey could make an awesome fb mix. there's very few songs i don't enjoy.
but i would add pan american highway.
and what's #11- better things? is there a fb track that i don't have. 
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/ and I got a free t-shirt with this dude on it."
it's a b-side of some single I can't remember now...but I like it a lot. |
| themanwhowastooloud |
Posted - 10/26/2004 : 15:15:24
but as far as a comp CD...throw in "Pray a Little Faster(live)", "At the End of the World", "Places Named After Numbers", "If it Takes All Night", "Solid Gold", "Jane", "Thalassocracy", "Chinese Firedrill(w/ Mike Watt)", "Cult of Ray", "Speedy Marie", "I Heard Ramona Sing", "I Think I'm Starting to Lose It", "Velvety", "Whiskey In Your Shoes", "The Man Who Was Too Loud", "Back to Rome", "Southbound Bevy", "White Noise Maker", "Men In Black(live)", "Changing of the Guard"(a cover...I know) "You're Such a Wire", "Dance War", and "All My Ghosts"----23? songs that I would change up every time I tried such a task...I would inevitably make enough volumes of this endeavor to cover the entire catalog...why don't I just stick with the original releases...a friend can borrow one at any time as long as I know I'll get them back!
bubs |
| themanwhowastooloud |
Posted - 10/26/2004 : 14:52:56
I put a twist on the whole idea. I play guitar and sing at local get-togethers and the odd bar gig. I've turned more people on to Frank AND the Pixies by throwing in the random song from either catalog during sets. People always seem to dig on the left-of-center ones and ask where they came from. I usually give them a knowing smile and direct them to the album the song came from. I've met quite a few converts once I see them again. ("How You Went So Far", "Two Spaces", "the Swimmer", "Cactus", "WIMM", "Out of State", "the Sad Punk", "Freedom Rock", "Alison", "Manitoba" and "...Olympus Mons" have all gotten interesting responses!)
bubs |
| Douglas |
Posted - 10/11/2004 : 07:56:06
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Bullet? Where's Bullet?
 So, I finally got my X-Wing
JUST my thought! that one has to be on there! |
| allison |
Posted - 10/09/2004 : 23:49:05
you guys have got it all wrong. here's all the greatest frank black songs of all time:
1. solid gold
2. calistan
3. the swimmer
4. dog gone
5. you're such a wire
6. places named after numbers
7. old black dawning
8. i've seen your picture
9. saint frances dam disaster
10. bullet
11. you ain't me
12. i don't want to hurt you
13. i heard ramona sing
|
| stymie |
Posted - 10/04/2004 : 09:52:10
Glad you finally woke up! |
| Brackish Heart |
Posted - 10/01/2004 : 04:11:28
I've actually made a cd for my car 'the worst of frank black' - songs either i haven't listened to much off the albums or songs i know other fans or friends love but for some reason i dont like that much.
It contained tracks like:
hang onto your ego, bad wicked world, hostest witht he mostess, adventure and resolution, cult of ray, suffering, farewell bend, remix remodel, my favourite kiss, i want rock n roll, the swimmer, robert onion....
ive actually come to the conclusion that bar a couple of tracks that are really crap despite how many times i hear them its pretty damn good...esp bad wicked world thats now one of my favourire tracks after previously being one of my most disliked. |
| smashmachine |
Posted - 09/29/2004 : 22:36:26
I made a cd coincidentally with the same titl;e ESSENTIAL BLACK for my car, i was getitng tired of keeping track of all my cds, anyway, heres what i came up with, (plus, every album is represented i think) Anyway, I cant comprehend how this compilation wouldnt get someone hooked
1) Bullet -sets the tone, lets you know frank is messing around. i always thought bullet should have been first track on dog in sand, but blast off does pretty well and sounds like it was designed for that purpose.
2) Cold Heart of Stone - my fave Frank song, kind of following this weird logic i heard in little league that you should put your best hitter at the 2 slot. anyway, i like hwo it works
3) Abstract Plain (toty version) - change up the pace, not a wasted second on this track, by this point, you're mind should be melting and your car catches flight when the keyboard comes in after the chrous
4) Headache - any frank cd compliation cannot have this song
5)Billy Radcliffe
6) Men in Black - essential, this song just rocks
7)the swimmer, change of pace, fits in nicely
8) everything's new - i needed a tears track and this is my favorite
9) out of state
10)bad harmony
11) czar - alright, now we're talking, essential
12) will run after you (sunny groove version)
13) old black dawning - i fucking love this song, short sweet and rock you out
14)do you feel bad about it?
15)hard to make things out
then i kind of forget the order, but i know i got:
los angeles
abstract plain - acoustic - completely different song and just perfect
I'll be blue
dog in the sand
anyway, start off with bullet, end with los angeles, anything in between is good as long as its frank
a single bullet loaded in each one |
| stymie |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 16:38:40
Some people are born to listen to the music force feed to them by the radio and media. I say if they are that stupid then let them listen to CRAP. I'll keep the good music for myself! |
| Jose Jones |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 20:43:32
"Bartholomew" fucking rules. well done. in fact, i'm going to listen to DW RIGHT NOW.
-dan
-----------------------
they were the heroes of old, men of renown. |
| whitenoisemaker |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 15:21:27
I did a chronological two-disc set for a friend who only knew Frank's Pixies stuff...
Disc One
1 Ten Percenter
2 Los Angeles
3 Brackish Boy
4 Fu Manchu
5 Parry The Wind High, Low
6 (I Want To Live On An) Abstact Plain
7 Headache
8 Whatever Happened To Pong?
9 Fiddle Riddle
10 Big Red
11 Calistan
12 Ole' Mulholland
13 Men in Black (Original Version)
14 Baby, That's Art
15 Kicked in The Taco
16 The Cult of Ray
17 The Marsist
18 Back To Rome
19 Solid Gold
20 All My Ghosts
21 I Gotta Move
22 Dog Gone
Disc Two
1 Living on Soul
2 Billy Radcliffe
3 I Think I'm Starting to Lose It
4 So. Bay
5 85 Weeks
6 I'll Be Blue
7 I've Seen Your Picture
8 Bullet
9 Hermaphroditos
10 Pan American Highway
11 California Bound
12 Jet Black River
13 Black Letter Days
14 Whispering Weeds
15 Fields of Marigold
16 Bartholomew
17 Out of State
18 Manitoba
19 Everything is New
20 This Old Heartache
21 Nadine
22 Massif Centrale
He dug it throughly, especially Disc Two.
|
| Black_francis_ |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 03:51:08
awwwwwww |
| tobafett |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 18:31:32
and now, hopefully, Frank will be with him...always.
|
| The New Bolero |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 12:54:20
I guess you'd say the guy I made the cd for is a casual Pixies fan--he's going to see them next month but only really knows Doolittle. It was when he swore to me that Frank had dropped out of the music business years ago--that he remembered reading an article about it in Rolling Stone or something--that I wanted to make the cd to show him how he was all wrong and what, in fact, Frank's been up to these past years. "Essential" was probably the wrong word to use when I referred to the cd, but it was the first one that came to mind. I wanted to include the "hits" as well as a variety of stylistically differing sounds.
Note: After listening to the cd at work yesterday I asked him what he thought. He said he really liked 'St. Francis Dam Disaster' the best but also called 'Freedom Rock' and 'Nadine' "bad assed." Not sure if I made a convert (like I said, that wasn't really the mission, it was more to give him the Cliff Notes on Frank's post-Pixies catalog) but it's fun to help people, as Alec Guiness said in Star Wars, "take their first step into a larger world." |
| hammerhands |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 12:11:27
Maybe if the bands didn't suck, those people wouldn't need to try so hard. |
| VoVat |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 08:48:31
quote:
I dunno about you guys, but I usually get annoyed when somebody's trying too hard to turn me on to their favorite band.
Eh, I wouldn't really call one mix CD "trying too hard."
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 23:33:18
you people are weird.
if someone doesn't like frank black then i give up on them. |
| Jason |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 22:38:32
Here's my deal:
I dunno about you guys, but I usually get annoyed when somebody's trying too hard to turn me on to their favorite band. So I'm not into the conversion game, but if I were I think an intro to Frank (barring just hearing one of the albums) should be concise. I'd probably keep my compiliation to no longer than 12-15 songs. "Glaring omissions" are good. This gives the listener more cool stuff to hear when/if they start listening to the actual albums.
My comp would probably start with "Los Angeles" (the stalwart) and end with "Southbound Bevy". |
| VoVat |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 18:55:28
quote:
It would be reasonably difficult to make a bad FB compilation. However were I forced into a corner, I would have to say that the anti-comp would have only one track on it; and that track would be 'Goodbye Lorraine'. It's a line dancin' anthem...
And what's wrong with that?
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
| Chris Knight |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 15:04:10
This is what I believe an official, chronologically sequenced "best of" collection would look like. Sort of the FB equivalent to Neil Young's "Decade".
disc #1
los angeles / hang on to your ego / old black dawning / czar / freedom rock
speedy marie / calistan / superabound / white noise maker / men in black / dance war / i don't want to hurt you / dog gone / all my ghosts / suffering
disc #2
western star / skeleton man / i think i'm starting to lose it / robert onion / i'll be blue / st. francis dam disaster / hermaphroditos / cold heart of stone / end of miles / southbound bevy / heloise / whiskey in your shoes / velvety / horrible day
everything is new / the snake |
| Devils Islander |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 13:12:23
It would be reasonably difficult to make a bad FB compilation. However were I forced into a corner, I would have to say that the anti-comp would have only one track on it; and that track would be 'Goodbye Lorraine'. It's a line dancin' anthem...Yee-haa...hoe-down...arrgh!
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are. |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:55:36
Two Spaces
White Noise Maker
Men in Black
I Gotta Move
Western Star
The Swimmer
Bartholomew
Jane the Queen of Love
Manitoba
Hate Me
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 09:52:50
I was wondering, if Frank were to make a disc like this of the songs he likes best/were most accessible to new comers, what would it be...
"Join the Cult of Frank 2.0 / And you'll be enlightened (free for 1.x members)" |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 09:20:55
OK, if we're going for more of a shortish/commercial size, then, this time with some reference to track order (bear in mind this is not my list of favourites, just what seems to be generally accepted as some of the best):
1) Bullet
2) Freedom Rock
3) Robert Onion
4) Abstract Plain
5) I Could Stay Here Forever
6) Headache
7) End of Miles
8) Massif Centrale
9) Speedy Marie
10) So. Bay
11) All My Ghosts
12) Los Angeles
It looks unconvential, sure, but it gets in some of the most accessible songs with only 12 tracks and the flow works surprisingly well. I'm going to try this on the next person I introduce to FB.
"Join the Cult of Frank 2.0 / And you'll be enlightened (free for 1.x members)" |
| remig |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 01:59:05
40 min, 56 sec:
1Thalassocracy
2You Ain't me
3Freedom Rock
4Los Angeles
5Pan American Highway
6The Swimmer
7Robert Onion
8All my ghosts (single version)
9I want R&R
10The Snake
11nd of Miles
12His Kingly Cave
1-3 Fast and catchy tunes
4 transition
5-6 Mellow
7 Transition
8-10 Back to rock
11-12 Perfect to end
Now I'm gonna try it in that particular order.
***********************************************
So you have no point of reference, Donny.
You're like a child that wanders INTO THE MIDDLE OF A MOVIE! |
| Itchload |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 22:40:50
I have some strong advice for you. Frank Black's post Pixies work is not as accessible or visceral as his Pixies stuff. You need to listen a bit closer and give the songs some time to sink in. That being said, I would recommend making the CD only 40 minutes long. I KNOW that sounds impossible, but you have to realize, if you give him an 80 minute CD there is no way in hell he'll ever get around to listening to the last 10 songs on it. A short 10 song CD will be more appealing and will possibly gather more replays. 80 minutes is a lot to ask of someone these days, and say 240 minutes to listen to all the songs 3 times (minimum) is quite a bit as well.
If he likes the 40 minute one, then you can bombard him with a second, 80 minute disc. |
| dogjones |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 19:47:23
this was for a personal mix in the car, btw...
woohoo! useless info |
| dogjones |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 19:46:04
i tried putting it all on 1 disc...given the styles i had to break it up pre/post catholics over 2 discs...even with there only being 3 non-catholics albums, it was still almost as hard to make disc 1 as it was disc 2 |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 18:32:03
By the way New Bolero...there was some nice cuts in your compilation!
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 18:31:21
I would say anything over ten songs as an introduction to anyone is overkill. If they are going to like an artist, the first song should catch their attention. I think we all agree that Frank's music is cancerous, and once it takes a hold of that magical stuff in the brain, it's malignant, baby! So I would start with nine songs. Or ten. But that's it. One off each album, and maybe a b-side. It will be a hard choice to make, but no harder than the artist himself who must make sacrifices to satisfy their producers.
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
