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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo Posted - 07/27/2005 : 06:50:32
Good reviews overall... Buzz...

But in terms of figures, does the albums sell well more than 1 week after its release???

Mr John?

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billgoodman Posted - 08/16/2005 : 02:02:59
quote:
Originally posted by Ten Percenter

I get the feeling SMYT did not sell that well. For some reason, the label is unwilling to give out exact sales figures for albums, but Bob at CV has confirmed that Honeycomb has already sold about 1000 more than the total acheived by SMYT.





"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)



that is so sad
SMYT is the Catholics masterpiece
the songs are richly produced
have a wide sound
and are killer songs to begin with

but I guess it's nice that Honeycomb is doing great



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God save the Noisies
Daisy Girl Posted - 08/15/2005 : 19:00:30
Yeah, I don't know about the recording industry, but the industries that i've worked in... sales # are kept confidental and inside the company. so maybe it's like that 4 the recording industry.

"I ain't goin to be what I ain't"
Ten Percenter Posted - 08/15/2005 : 07:21:24
I get the feeling SMYT did not sell that well. For some reason, the label is unwilling to give out exact sales figures for albums, but Bob at CV has confirmed that Honeycomb has already sold about 1000 more than the total acheived by SMYT.





"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)
kelladwella Posted - 08/15/2005 : 06:28:38
Hey, that is cool!
So it's official now. Frank is touring europe with the HC cats!

I would still like to see the actual sales numbers, though. How much did SMYT sell till today in europe?
Carl Posted - 08/15/2005 : 06:25:05
Wow, great!
Ten Percenter Posted - 08/15/2005 : 06:17:08
European sales seem to be going well. I have just received this note from Bob at Cooking Vinyl:

"Sales... It’s already outsold the total amount sold for SMYT since that was released."






"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)
bazza Posted - 08/01/2005 : 06:39:09
HMV in dublin are moving a good few copies - in fact its no. 40 in their in store chart which is great, considering they are having a bit of a sale on at the moment. nice.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."
Daisy Girl Posted - 07/29/2005 : 10:11:02
quote:
Originally posted by bazza

i have mailed cooking vinyl to suggest putting promo stickers on the covers of the 2nd round of releases - i am sure that will help sales. i mean.. NME 8/10, Mojo 4/5, Uncut 4/5, EntIreland 4/4. THAT would look great. incidentally HMV in Dublin have shifted a few copies so far which is good news.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."





That's a good idea. It will prob take a few weeks/months to get something like that in market. (I have prev work exp. with something similar), but that is a huge idea. (One of the challenges depending how things are distributed might be with languages: e.g. some places such as Montreal/Quebec will require French Labling)Variabale costs (co-packing costs and the cost for the new sticker will) go up but running an NPV analyisis will more than likely determine that the increased sales that will result from the stickering will more than outweigh the costs associated with it.) The design cost of the sticker would be a minimal one time fixed cost.

It's been cool seeing all the advertising for it and it's great it's gotten such diverse distribution. As we all know Frank fans are everywhere!!

I guess another thing to keep in mind for the next album is developing stand alone displays, shelf signage (aka shelf talkers or just an insert that draws attention in the cd bins). In addtion to the instore signage already mailed out to the out lets selling this. Another promo idea would be info on the floor leading consumers to the album too. just some ideas.

I have to make it to purchase two more copies... last week was crazy, so I still haven't done that.

We got the green light for like our radio program on FB and Honeycomb. Right now, the date will be in mid to late Sept. Never late than never and then that way, that might be good timing for people to get HC on their Holiday wish lists.
therewererumours Posted - 07/29/2005 : 06:43:14
I've been telling my friend to get that TOTY for €8, great value for a double album. But they didn't have HC the day it came out, I had to get mine in HMV.

Join the Cult of
bazza Posted - 07/29/2005 : 04:45:41
indeed tower records does rock. love their nugget section.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."
The Marsist Posted - 07/28/2005 : 15:08:59
thats a good tower records i got toty in there for 8 quid and cult of ray for ten (and i think i got last splash in there but i cnt remeber).its cheap if the cds are like over 5 years old


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

therewererumours Posted - 07/28/2005 : 15:02:59
Tower in Dublin has Honeycomb at number five in it's chart wall, but I think thats just instore favorites? Nice to see it put out there though.

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OldManInaCoffeeCan Posted - 07/28/2005 : 08:29:52
quote:
Originally posted by Superabounder

quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

I was surprised to find it in WAL-MART! I don't shop WAL-MART but was in one with a co-worker Monday when I decided to check on a whim. Lo, and behold...HONEYCOMB!

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN



I didn't realize Honeycomb was made in China!!

All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies




Ha! Your implication that Wal-Mart has a monogamus retail relationship with China! Good one Superabounder. [those motherfuckin, blood suckin, life-draining, greedy bastards]

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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo Posted - 07/28/2005 : 07:40:35
It's all a question a promotion!!!
.. and a lucky cat :)

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The Calistanian Posted - 07/28/2005 : 07:31:04
I got an e-mail directly from Mario Martin at Back Porch Records, and he said it's the, quote, "best sales for a solo frank black record out of the box to date."

1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
Superabounder Posted - 07/27/2005 : 19:49:59
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

I was surprised to find it in WAL-MART! I don't shop WAL-MART but was in one with a co-worker Monday when I decided to check on a whim. Lo, and behold...HONEYCOMB!

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN



I didn't realize Honeycomb was made in China!!

All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies
Visiting Sasquatch Posted - 07/27/2005 : 16:33:23
I bought the only copy at the Virgin Mega Store in Times Square...now I have no idea if that means they sold out of all their copies at the time, or they only had one to begin with...Im betting on they sold out...
mosleyk Posted - 07/27/2005 : 16:30:02
When I got my copy yesterday at Borders there were only two copies left. I am guessing they certainly received more than just two copies to begin with. I was really happy to see it was selling.
billgoodman Posted - 07/27/2005 : 14:33:28
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

Here in the U.S. we had a very good first week in sales, fyi. Much appreciated those of you who spent. For those who waited, it would be nice if our second week was as good or better.

bye,
Jon Tiven



any news on europe?


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God save the Noisies
TRANSMARINE Posted - 07/27/2005 : 10:49:24
I was surprised to find it in WAL-MART! I don't shop WAL-MART but was in one with a co-worker Monday when I decided to check on a whim. Lo, and behold...HONEYCOMB! We then went by TARGET...and there it was! Fancy that. Frank in the 'select' group! Pretty darn cool.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
Kirk Posted - 07/27/2005 : 10:41:06
I might be a little selfish, but I don't care about the numbers and other people owning this album. If they do, then yipee. Maybe I can adopt the 'I told you so' or 'I was here first' attitude.

All I care about it having a printed album in my hands.
Suicide_Samurai Posted - 07/27/2005 : 09:00:02
Yeah, we want numbers!
kathryn Posted - 07/27/2005 : 08:50:40
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

Here in the U.S. we had a very good first week in sales, fyi. Much appreciated those of you who spent. For those who waited, it would be nice if our second week was as good or better.

bye,
Jon Tiven



Exactly how did it do during the first week?


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
Jontiven Posted - 07/27/2005 : 08:49:29
Here in the U.S. we had a very good first week in sales, fyi. Much appreciated those of you who spent. For those who waited, it would be nice if our second week was as good or better.

bye,
Jon Tiven
hickster9 Posted - 07/27/2005 : 08:46:11
I bought mine just yesterday...I had a few other things going on last week! And it was the last one; would love to know how many they had to begin with...and who bought them...hmmm potential friends?

But glad to have it!

I like cows, they go moo when they eat
bazza Posted - 07/27/2005 : 08:37:03
i have mailed cooking vinyl to suggest putting promo stickers on the covers of the 2nd round of releases - i am sure that will help sales. i mean.. NME 8/10, Mojo 4/5, Uncut 4/5, EntIreland 4/4. THAT would look great. incidentally HMV in Dublin have shifted a few copies so far which is good news.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."
PixieSteve Posted - 07/27/2005 : 08:10:56
i found 1 copy in my local virgin megastore, about 6 in HMV. i bought it in HMV cause it was a pound cheaper but now i'm thinking, if i got it from virgin they might have ordered more or put more out :/


Oh let it linger
frank_black_francis Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:54:24
Yea...there is a difference....I am not all that interested in stupid ass chart numbers, but something like actual album sales is a wee bit more tangible.

...and different.

My GPA doesnt tell me what I got in History last term....my mark does.
starmekitten Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:39:31
Not really, no.


and you're questioning the sciences
and questioning religion
you're looking like an idiot
and you no longer care.

kelladwella Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:30:43
Well, there is a difference between the performance of HC in different (official, unofficial, country, whatever) charts and the actual sales figures it produces. Donīt you think?

Maybe itīs not that big a difference, to justify different threads.
But maybe it is...
vilainde Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:22:52
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13839

too many topics on the same things in this part of the forum



So damn right! (haven't we had this conversation somewhere else before, Tre?)

Lock!


Denis

I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
kelladwella Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:09:43
quote:
Originally posted by Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo

But in terms of figures, does the albums sell well more than 1 week after its release???



Donīt know if thatīs possible, but I think it would be interisting to see, how HC sells

- overall
- via soundscan
- countrywise or at least labelwise
- in France, where itīs out since the 4th of July
starmekitten Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:05:07
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13839

too many topics on the same things in this part of the forum


and you're questioning the sciences
and questioning religion
you're looking like an idiot
and you no longer care.

The Marsist Posted - 07/27/2005 : 06:52:36
my local hmv got 7 copies in on the day it was released i bought 1 and i went in yesterday they had none left and i live in an area not exactly overflowing with frank fans


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black


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