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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 07/27/2005 :  06:50:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good reviews overall... Buzz...

But in terms of figures, does the albums sell well more than 1 week after its release???

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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  06:52:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my local hmv got 7 copies in on the day it was released i bought 1 and i went in yesterday they had none left and i live in an area not exactly overflowing with frank fans


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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  07:05:07  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13839

too many topics on the same things in this part of the forum


and you're questioning the sciences
and questioning religion
you're looking like an idiot
and you no longer care.

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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  07:09:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo

But in terms of figures, does the albums sell well more than 1 week after its release???



Donīt know if thatīs possible, but I think it would be interisting to see, how HC sells

- overall
- via soundscan
- countrywise or at least labelwise
- in France, where itīs out since the 4th of July
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  07:22:52  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13839

too many topics on the same things in this part of the forum



So damn right! (haven't we had this conversation somewhere else before, Tre?)

Lock!


Denis

I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  07:30:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, there is a difference between the performance of HC in different (official, unofficial, country, whatever) charts and the actual sales figures it produces. Donīt you think?

Maybe itīs not that big a difference, to justify different threads.
But maybe it is...
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  07:39:31  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not really, no.


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and questioning religion
you're looking like an idiot
and you no longer care.

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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
895 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  07:54:24  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yea...there is a difference....I am not all that interested in stupid ass chart numbers, but something like actual album sales is a wee bit more tangible.

...and different.

My GPA doesnt tell me what I got in History last term....my mark does.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  08:10:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i found 1 copy in my local virgin megastore, about 6 in HMV. i bought it in HMV cause it was a pound cheaper but now i'm thinking, if i got it from virgin they might have ordered more or put more out :/


Oh let it linger
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  08:37:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have mailed cooking vinyl to suggest putting promo stickers on the covers of the 2nd round of releases - i am sure that will help sales. i mean.. NME 8/10, Mojo 4/5, Uncut 4/5, EntIreland 4/4. THAT would look great. incidentally HMV in Dublin have shifted a few copies so far which is good news.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."

Edited by - bazza on 07/27/2005 08:37:49
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hickster9
- FB Fan -

USA
98 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  08:46:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought mine just yesterday...I had a few other things going on last week! And it was the last one; would love to know how many they had to begin with...and who bought them...hmmm potential friends?

But glad to have it!

I like cows, they go moo when they eat
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  08:49:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here in the U.S. we had a very good first week in sales, fyi. Much appreciated those of you who spent. For those who waited, it would be nice if our second week was as good or better.

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Jon Tiven
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  08:50:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

Here in the U.S. we had a very good first week in sales, fyi. Much appreciated those of you who spent. For those who waited, it would be nice if our second week was as good or better.

bye,
Jon Tiven



Exactly how did it do during the first week?


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Suicide_Samurai
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
431 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  09:00:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, we want numbers!
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
633 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  10:41:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I might be a little selfish, but I don't care about the numbers and other people owning this album. If they do, then yipee. Maybe I can adopt the 'I told you so' or 'I was here first' attitude.

All I care about it having a printed album in my hands.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  10:49:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was surprised to find it in WAL-MART! I don't shop WAL-MART but was in one with a co-worker Monday when I decided to check on a whim. Lo, and behold...HONEYCOMB! We then went by TARGET...and there it was! Fancy that. Frank in the 'select' group! Pretty darn cool.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  14:33:28  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

Here in the U.S. we had a very good first week in sales, fyi. Much appreciated those of you who spent. For those who waited, it would be nice if our second week was as good or better.

bye,
Jon Tiven



any news on europe?


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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
607 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  16:30:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I got my copy yesterday at Borders there were only two copies left. I am guessing they certainly received more than just two copies to begin with. I was really happy to see it was selling.
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Visiting Sasquatch
= Cult of Ray =

USA
451 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  16:33:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought the only copy at the Virgin Mega Store in Times Square...now I have no idea if that means they sold out of all their copies at the time, or they only had one to begin with...Im betting on they sold out...
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  19:49:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

I was surprised to find it in WAL-MART! I don't shop WAL-MART but was in one with a co-worker Monday when I decided to check on a whim. Lo, and behold...HONEYCOMB!

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN



I didn't realize Honeycomb was made in China!!

All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2005 :  07:31:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got an e-mail directly from Mario Martin at Back Porch Records, and he said it's the, quote, "best sales for a solo frank black record out of the box to date."

1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1079 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2005 :  07:40:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's all a question a promotion!!!
.. and a lucky cat :)

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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2005 :  08:29:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Superabounder

quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

I was surprised to find it in WAL-MART! I don't shop WAL-MART but was in one with a co-worker Monday when I decided to check on a whim. Lo, and behold...HONEYCOMB!

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN



I didn't realize Honeycomb was made in China!!

All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies




Ha! Your implication that Wal-Mart has a monogamus retail relationship with China! Good one Superabounder. [those motherfuckin, blood suckin, life-draining, greedy bastards]

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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2005 :  15:02:59  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tower in Dublin has Honeycomb at number five in it's chart wall, but I think thats just instore favorites? Nice to see it put out there though.

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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2005 :  15:08:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats a good tower records i got toty in there for 8 quid and cult of ray for ten (and i think i got last splash in there but i cnt remeber).its cheap if the cds are like over 5 years old


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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2005 :  04:45:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
indeed tower records does rock. love their nugget section.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2005 :  06:43:14  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've been telling my friend to get that TOTY for €8, great value for a double album. But they didn't have HC the day it came out, I had to get mine in HMV.

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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2005 :  10:11:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bazza

i have mailed cooking vinyl to suggest putting promo stickers on the covers of the 2nd round of releases - i am sure that will help sales. i mean.. NME 8/10, Mojo 4/5, Uncut 4/5, EntIreland 4/4. THAT would look great. incidentally HMV in Dublin have shifted a few copies so far which is good news.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."





That's a good idea. It will prob take a few weeks/months to get something like that in market. (I have prev work exp. with something similar), but that is a huge idea. (One of the challenges depending how things are distributed might be with languages: e.g. some places such as Montreal/Quebec will require French Labling)Variabale costs (co-packing costs and the cost for the new sticker will) go up but running an NPV analyisis will more than likely determine that the increased sales that will result from the stickering will more than outweigh the costs associated with it.) The design cost of the sticker would be a minimal one time fixed cost.

It's been cool seeing all the advertising for it and it's great it's gotten such diverse distribution. As we all know Frank fans are everywhere!!

I guess another thing to keep in mind for the next album is developing stand alone displays, shelf signage (aka shelf talkers or just an insert that draws attention in the cd bins). In addtion to the instore signage already mailed out to the out lets selling this. Another promo idea would be info on the floor leading consumers to the album too. just some ideas.

I have to make it to purchase two more copies... last week was crazy, so I still haven't done that.

We got the green light for like our radio program on FB and Honeycomb. Right now, the date will be in mid to late Sept. Never late than never and then that way, that might be good timing for people to get HC on their Holiday wish lists.

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 07/29/2005 10:15:46
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2005 :  06:39:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HMV in dublin are moving a good few copies - in fact its no. 40 in their in store chart which is great, considering they are having a bit of a sale on at the moment. nice.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2005 :  06:17:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
European sales seem to be going well. I have just received this note from Bob at Cooking Vinyl:

"Sales... It’s already outsold the total amount sold for SMYT since that was released."






"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2005 :  06:25:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, great!
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2005 :  06:28:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, that is cool!
So it's official now. Frank is touring europe with the HC cats!

I would still like to see the actual sales numbers, though. How much did SMYT sell till today in europe?
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2005 :  07:21:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I get the feeling SMYT did not sell that well. For some reason, the label is unwilling to give out exact sales figures for albums, but Bob at CV has confirmed that Honeycomb has already sold about 1000 more than the total acheived by SMYT.





"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2005 :  19:00:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I don't know about the recording industry, but the industries that i've worked in... sales # are kept confidental and inside the company. so maybe it's like that 4 the recording industry.

"I ain't goin to be what I ain't"
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  02:02:59  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ten Percenter

I get the feeling SMYT did not sell that well. For some reason, the label is unwilling to give out exact sales figures for albums, but Bob at CV has confirmed that Honeycomb has already sold about 1000 more than the total acheived by SMYT.





"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)



that is so sad
SMYT is the Catholics masterpiece
the songs are richly produced
have a wide sound
and are killer songs to begin with

but I guess it's nice that Honeycomb is doing great



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