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| Suicide_Samurai |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 08:08:10
....Or just rerecorded?
I personally dont the way he sings "Singing this lullaby" in Sir Rockaby, Davids singing at the end of La La Love You is also pretty bad too. I just think in these two examples the singing seems so forced if that makes sense. |
| 35 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| FranknWeezer |
Posted - 04/05/2005 : 13:59:14
I love Valentine & Garuda, but I don't like the first 20 seconds or so intro where he basically speaks, "I have a glass but I do not have a wine...I have a suit but I do not have a dime..."
I always turn the sound down and then back up in time for the drums to kick in.
-FranknWeezer |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 04/05/2005 : 12:53:24
quote:
Originally posted by 50 Pence
don't be a loser all your life mate....
Blats
because knocking anonymous internet people is obviously so cool
go you
 I joined the cult of Derek/ because Dereks don't run |
| 50 Pence |
Posted - 04/05/2005 : 12:30:44
don't be a loser all your life mate....
Blats |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 04/05/2005 : 08:14:14
I was even excited to see him play Everytime I Go Around Here live a few years back, hoping I would have a new appreciation for it! Didn't happen. In fact, I left to go outside and smoke! Heh!
I can sleep with the fact that Im probably the only person here who puts BLD at the bottom of my Frank pile, but I can't sleep knowing IVANDIVEL thinks I'm sick  . I'm going now to take my Lithium.
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
| vilainde |
Posted - 04/05/2005 : 01:51:11
Some people have expressed their feeling that BLD and DW could have been shortened into one album, and I can understand that (although I think they're wrong). But not liking Everytime I Go Round Here? Man, I'm calling the mental hospital right now!
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
| ivandivel |
Posted - 04/04/2005 : 23:50:41
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
I could go with a complete scrapping of Everytime I Go Around Here. Awright...I'm ready for the tomatoes.
Also, I wish Black Letter Days and Devil's Workshop were ONE album. I'd scrap The Black Rider 1 and 2 completely. Then I'd nix How You Went So Far...
That is sick. |
| BoomChickABoom |
Posted - 04/04/2005 : 20:55:34
I love the SSMVGD version of HIS KINGLY CAVE but I don't love the Devil's Workshop version. It's a ok version but not as good than the SSMVGD version in my opinion.
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| floop |
Posted - 04/04/2005 : 15:21:17
i think This Old Heartache would be better without the very last part (starting at 2:41).. the way he sings it in that part, it kind of dies out, making for a weaker ending IMO
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
| The Holiday Son |
Posted - 04/04/2005 : 15:02:20
Brian, I agree with you about Places' intro and everytime I go around.
Though I strongly disagree about BLD (I would ditch chip, bld and 1826) |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 04/04/2005 : 14:47:02
quote:
Originally posted by OldManInaCoffeeCan
Hey Transmarine, good thing The Man hasn't put you in charge of selecting cuts for his albums,...no kidding, no "How You Went So Far"?, no "Farewell Bend"?, no "I Will Run After You"?, no "True Blue"?, no "Whispering Weeds"?, no "Black Rider 1 and 2"?, Won't be none of them at all? Wow!
I know it sounds sacreligious...I just have never cared much for Black Letter Days, with a few exceptions. Songs such as Chip Away Boy, Jane TQOL, and Jet Black River are wonderful...and so is California Bound. I even like 1826! But the rest don't do it for me. Devil's Workshop is 10 times better. And the remaining 6 I chose over the five I placed on BLD are worlds better than the one's I left off BLD...in my opinion, of course!
What else would I scrap...hmm...the intro to Places Named After Numbers. I think some here agree with me that a majority of synthesizer 'voices' used by the very cool Eric Drew Feldman have a somewhat dated and, dare I say, 'cheap' sound to them. Sure, it has charm...but thank goodness the rest of PNAN is sublime. It makes up for that cartoon-score intro. And I'm not talking good cartoons. I'm talking the Go-Bots, or Garfield circa-'86,
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
| OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 04/04/2005 : 12:26:22
Hey Transmarine, good thing The Man hasn't put you in charge of selecting cuts for his albums,...no kidding, no "How You Went So Far"?, no "Farewell Bend"?, no "I Will Run After You"?, no "True Blue"?, no "Whispering Weeds"?, no "Black Rider 1 and 2"?, Won't be none of them at all? Wow!
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| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 04/04/2005 : 10:49:01
I could go with a complete scrapping of Everytime I Go Around Here. Awright...I'm ready for the tomatoes.
Also, I wish Black Letter Days and Devil's Workshop were ONE album. I'd scrap The Black Rider 1 and 2 completely. Then I'd nix How You Went So Far, Farewell Bend, I will Run After You, True Blue, and Whispering Weeds...in there place I'd put Velvety, Bartholomew, Heloise, Whiskey in Your Shoes, and San Antonio, TX. This is my idea of a good solid 16 track album. Then I'd rearrange ALL tracks in an effort to sound like an all-night campfire song session.
Awright...I'm ready for the rocks.
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
| Suicide_Samurai |
Posted - 04/03/2005 : 09:08:21
I never payed much attention to the UFO sounds in Brackish Boy....its kind of ruined the song for me now, what was he thinking?
Also the vocals at the end of La La are so bad, when I made a pixies compilation I edited the song and shaved off those extra few seconds because I would have to skip them usually. Franks vocals on Number 13 sound even better after listening to La La love You so i guess it should stay there for that reason. |
| whoreatthedoor |
Posted - 04/03/2005 : 07:05:32
quote:
Originally posted by Suicide_Samurai
....Or just rerecorded?
I personally dont the way he sings "Singing this lullaby" in Sir Rockaby, Davids singing at the end of La La Love You is also pretty bad too. I just think in these two examples the singing seems so forced if that makes sense.
These are actually my fave part of both songs.
And I love the falsetto part. I'm OK with a shorter 'Blast Off'.
I thought 'IWRAY' was going somewhere, but I still like it this way.
The UFO sounds at the end of 'Robert Onion' annoy me.
The violet, the lily and the pink but those I refused all three |
| Mad Lucas |
Posted - 04/03/2005 : 06:07:38
I really like that now, i've never looked at Frank from that sort of perspective, using the form of the song to get across the lyrical and general story.
Another thing i'd change are the keyboard strings in Speedy. Through the 'she's built for speed, speedy marie, speedy marie". It's just poorly written, sounds completely out of place, it should have stopped after the main 'riff'.
The Organic Anti-Beat Box Boy |
| Mad Lucas |
Posted - 04/03/2005 : 06:00:23
Hmm ive never thought about it like that. Maybe i'll have a new perspective? But i don't know much about the broken heart stuff, because i'm 16.
The Organic Anti-Beat Box Boy |
| OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 21:47:26
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Lucas
I think FB has one of the best Good song:Shit song ratios, mostly because he hasn't written a 'shit' song, only one that could be better.
The only song i'd really change would be I Will Run After You, primarily because although the verses and A section are classic, the 'IWRAY' build up section doesn't go anywhere. When I first heard it, I thought 'this is going to go somewhere special, I can feel it'. When It just finished I was very dissapointed. Could have been an absolute classic, especially ith the initial guitar strumming and how the drums are introduced to that.
The Organic Anti-Beat Box Boy
I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. IMO the IWRAY section at the end of the song is not suppose to go anywhere, its an expression of his desparate state of mind caused by a broken heart.
I mean in my experiences, running after someone that dumped me for another, or dumped me for any other reason, led to nowhere. If you get them back, they'll likely run away again.
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| OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 21:27:28
quote:
Originally posted by Suicide_Samurai
....Or just rerecorded?
I personally dont the way he sings "Singing this lullaby" in Sir Rockaby, Davids singing at the end of La La Love You is also pretty bad too. I just think in these two examples the singing seems so forced if that makes sense.
Hey Samurai, do you really think you have the kougans (translation Japanese for testicles) to question The Man's singing? And, in his own House, no less!
Ahh, just kidding, didn't want you to think TRANSMARINE was bullshittin you.
I gotta tell you though, I just listened to it and, What are you kidding me?!?! That "Singing this lullaby", which he sings once at the end of the song, is great, it's one of the most passion-felt, full of breath from the bottom of The Man's gut, vocals. It's even better through the headphones.
WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!!!!
(Once again, just kidding about giving you a hard time, I couldn't resist, however, you know, much truth is often said in jest!)
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| vilainde |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 06:11:24
I think the build-up section of I Will Run is better on the SSMVGD version.
I wish the synth part in Space Is Gonna Do Me Good was played by real trumpets. I never loved the song because the sound of the keyboards makes me cringe.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
| Mad Lucas |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 06:09:01
No doubt of tune. But it feels like it should go somewhere and it just ends.
The Organic Anti-Beat Box Boy |
| hWolsky |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 00:29:29
I WILL RUN AFTER YOU par contre, is perfecly sung, totally in tune! He succeded with this one.
One of his best songs...
I mean one of his songs.
I'm a regular kid! |
| Skatealex1 |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 23:08:06
i like your such a wire :(
The Truth Is Out There |
| danjersey |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 19:37:09
i think i heard FRANK BLACK take a breath that just seemed way to lung like.
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| vilainde |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 06:22:41
I'm here
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
| The Holiday Son |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 06:17:22
I wish You're such a wire hadn't been recorded at all. (Denis, back me up on this one!) |
| Mad Lucas |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 04:21:49
I think FB has one of the best Good song:Shit song ratios, mostly because he hasn't written a 'shit' song, only one that could be better.
The only song i'd really change would be I Will Run After You, primarily because although the verses and A section are classic, the 'IWRAY' build up section doesn't go anywhere. When I first heard it, I thought 'this is going to go somewhere special, I can feel it'. When It just finished I was very dissapointed. Could have been an absolute classic, especially ith the initial guitar strumming and how the drums are introduced to that.
The Organic Anti-Beat Box Boy |
| vilainde |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 04:03:45
You could indeed cut Blast Off in half... but then you'd get a half-great song instead of a great one.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
| frank_black_francis |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 03:59:56
...I actually love the falsetto voice in Massif Centrale....when Frank does it, it seems warranted.....
....saying you do not like it as a matter of taste, is like saying you dont like his screaming in Pixies songs.
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/anima/chronoph/muybridge/index.htm |
| Black_francis_ |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 02:54:22
Cheeseman, you're right. maybe not in half, but it could certainly be shortened. and i really like the falsetto on Massif Centrale - 'sleeping gardens where i play my lute....' its great. |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 02:44:18
You could cut Blast Off in half with not much loss, in my humble and worthless opinion.
 I'm like a lost snail in the night. |
| lonely persuader |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 02:42:18
yo, hWolsky, yes we is different alrite, the falsetto makes 'Massif Centrale' and 'If it takes all nite' is fine, man, Grrrrrrrr.....
all must agree, or not, i dont care |
| theonecontender |
Posted - 03/30/2005 : 23:19:16
quote:
Originally posted by hWolsky
As I already suggested the falsetto part in Massif Central should have been removed... Frank's beautiful voice does not fit with that kind of performance I am afraid.... This is also the case with 'If it takes all night which is out of tune sometimes.
Don't kill me!!!
That makes two of us, and don't worry, I won't kill you!
1c |
| Broken Face |
Posted - 03/30/2005 : 07:10:59
i'm not a big fan of the abrupt endings of songs like hermaphroditos and 1826. thats the first thing that came to mind if i was producing those sessions - give it an ending! and don't cop out w/ a fade
-Brian
If you move I shoots!
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| hWolsky |
Posted - 03/30/2005 : 06:39:17
As I already suggested the falsetto part in Massif Central should have been removed... Frank's beautiful voice does not fit with that kind of performance I am afraid.... This is also the case with 'If it takes all night which is out of tune sometimes.
Don't kill me!!! i know a lot of you find this part more than important... as some of you may think that life without kids is a mistake... no comments...
By da way, the 'Whiskey in your shoes' weird part (poor it down...) that lonely persuader criticized is to me what makes that song so magic, original, and one of the best songs he did!!!
We're so different... I am a marsist. Instead of trying to live together let's split radically!!!
I'm a regular kid! |
| clemray |
Posted - 03/30/2005 : 06:17:19
Denis..... I rarely post but I wanted to tell you with a smile I distinctly remember when it was announced that Frank would be putting a b-sides collection together and that some of the material would be remixed. My first thought was "i hope they make Man of Steal a bit longer", because I love the ending and would have liked to hear more of it. it never occured to me that some would not like that, which i totally respect. again, this goes to show we are all individuals and we all have distinct and different tastes. |
