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Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 04/17/2006 : 15:24:03
If you were introducing people to Frank Black, what songs would you include in a mix. We've done a topic like this, but not for a long time and the criteria this time is a little different.

I'm thinking that since some people are using the podcast to introduce Frank Black newbies to the music, that maybe we should do an episode with an ultimate mix of sorts. This means the program time is about 40 mins and not a jam-packed 80 minute feast.

So I want to know, what would you put on there? What is a must for introducing people, how would you cover the broad spectrum of FB in ten songs or so? What songs meld nicely into each other?


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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mantaraysallright Posted - 11/16/2006 : 23:33:13
yeah I think either of the self titled albums would do for that
stymie Posted - 11/16/2006 : 22:59:21
How about just an album like TOTY ot SMYT?
edward897 Posted - 11/16/2006 : 19:53:41
This is an impossible task. I was glad to see "21 Reasons" on some of these lists. "Whiskey In Your Shoes", "Tiny Heart", "Johnny Barleycorn". What about "The Man Who Was Too Loud", was that on any list? Don't forget "Steak and Sabre" but it is much better live.

Ed
mantaraysallright Posted - 11/15/2006 : 02:26:54
Nadine
(edit: I changed my mind, Song of the Shrimp is good but...) I Burn Today
All My Ghosts
Bullet
Massif Central
Freedom Rock
Parry The WInd (not all that accessible but I love it)
Whiskey in Your Shoes
Western Star
End of Miles
MajorKey Posted - 11/15/2006 : 01:36:23
1. Los Angeles
2. Pan American Highway
3. St. Francis Dam Disaster
4. 85 Weeks
5. I Gotta Move
6. Ten Percenter
7. Speedy Marie
8. Superabound
9. Everything Is New
10. So. Bay
Mister Dog Posted - 11/02/2006 : 21:07:09
I would just like to take this moment to congradulate Cult of Frank on his awesome signature.

"I happen to suffer from a very sexy learning disorder. What do I call it Kif?"

"Ugh...sexlexia sir."

Dogs are forever in the push-up position.
orangemagic Posted - 10/31/2006 : 09:08:32
We should build higher.
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 10/31/2006 : 06:53:57
Three cheers for the other team!


"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you."
IceCream Posted - 10/30/2006 : 23:35:04
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Incidentally, here's the list we wound up using for Podcast 9:

Los Angeles
Parry the Wind
Speedy Marie
Headache
Superabound
All My Ghosts
Western Star
St. Francis Dam Disaster
Bullet
California Bound
San Antonio, Tx
Coastline
Honeycomb


"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you."

A very good mix. I looked at it without cringing.

Nice job, FB Forum Members! Give yourself a big round of applause!

By the way, this post is the closest I've ever come to a pep talk.
orangemagic Posted - 10/30/2006 : 14:35:32
That's a great mix.
pixiestu Posted - 10/30/2006 : 09:53:49
I've just found a Catholics mix I made a few weeks ago. It's not something I'd use to introduce a friend to FB&TC's, just a few of my favourites to play around the house. It goes like this:

1. All My Ghosts
2. Back To Rome
3. Humboldt County Massacre
4. Living On Soul
5. Western Star
6. Billy Radcliffe
7. 85 Weeks
8. I've Seen Your Picture
9. St. Francis Dam Disaster
10. Robert Onion
11. Bullet
12. If It Takes All Night
13. California Bound
14. Cold Heart Of Stone
15. I Will Run After You
16. 21 Reasons
17. Velvety
18. Out Of State
19. Heloise
20. Everything Is New
21. Massif Centrale
22. Coastline
23. Manitoba

"The arc of triumph"
orangemagic Posted - 10/26/2006 : 11:37:47
True. True. How about only songs that start with letters S or I or H?
Daisy Girl Posted - 10/25/2006 : 14:50:44
i see your point. how about a mix of women as the subject matter... jane the queen of love, violet, nadine, selkie bride, velvety, cold heart of stone, number 13, etc. I guess the same could be said for guys... Johnny Barleycorn, 10 Percenter, Sir Rock, Fitzgerald etc.
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 10/25/2006 : 14:46:24
Your mix is sort of missing all the classic FB songs, though. But since we've moved from intro mixes to mixes in general, I suppose that's okay.


"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you."
orangemagic Posted - 10/25/2006 : 14:44:27
surprise me.
orangemagic Posted - 10/25/2006 : 14:43:31
You're welcome Daisy.

So what else? Is there a song we're forgetting or what?

Daisy Girl Posted - 10/25/2006 : 14:36:39
aww.. thanks guys.
orangemagic Posted - 10/25/2006 : 07:33:50
Thanks pixiestu. I did however forget to include Southbound Bevy and Solid Gold.
pixiestu Posted - 10/25/2006 : 06:59:09
That is indeed one of the best ones I've read yet, orangemagic. Lots of my favourite FB songs are in there.

Daisy, I like your idea of having the first and last tracks of each album. I might create me a playlist like that and give it a listen.

"The arc of triumph"
orangemagic Posted - 10/25/2006 : 06:25:57
Not bad Daisy Girl. Not bad. But let me give this a shot.

I think I'm starting to lose it
Don't ya rile em.
Kicked in the Taco
You ain't me
Atom in my heart
Thalassocracy
California Bound
Heloise
Everything is New
Fastman
All My Ghosts
Hermaphrodites
Selkie Bride
Where the wind is going
Such a wire
If it takes all night
I will run after you



I rest my case.
-greg
Daisy Girl Posted - 10/24/2006 : 14:27:47
Here's what you could call the alpha and omega FB mix or maybe the beginning to end mix. I was suprised how a lot of these songs flow in to each other... not all, but most

los angles
don't ya rile em
what ever happened to pong?
pie in the sky
the marsist
the last stand of S.A.
all my ghosts
the man who was too loud
bad harmony
so. bay
blast off
if it takes all night (regular)
the black ryder
whispering weeds
velvety
fields of marigolds
nadine
manatoba
selkie bride
sing for joy
if your posison gets you
fare thee well

i did make a few exceptions-Subed 2nd Black Ryder for Whispering Weeds and it if it takes all night plugged vs unpluged.
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 10/24/2006 : 13:57:22
I suppose if you're only looking at 'accessible' then maybe they don't fit as well, but if you're trying to provide someone with a sort of all-encompassing mix, then I'd say that Parry the Wind is probably the best example of quirky songwriting and timings. Keeping in mind that this was done prior to the release of Fastman Raiderman, Honeycomb is probably the best example of Nashville-era Frank. Coastline is a good song for connecting Show Me Your Tears with Honeycomb/FMRM. I'd probably agree that San Antonio or California Bound could go, but one or the other, not both. California Bound, for example, definitely captures the feel of BLD.

Plus it was voted on by lots of people here, so I suppose that while I may not be particularly enamoured with California Bound or San Antonio (or Honeycomb for that matter), having a bunch of people give their opinion helps weed out some personal bias.


"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you."
Born to Lose Posted - 10/24/2006 : 13:45:11
I have a problem with the inclusions of San Antonio, Parry The Wind, Coastline, and Honeycomb. Not that I don't love those songs, but for an introduction, they are just not fit for it.
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 10/24/2006 : 09:25:46
Incidentally, here's the list we wound up using for Podcast 9:

Los Angeles
Parry the Wind
Speedy Marie
Headache
Superabound
All My Ghosts
Western Star
St. Francis Dam Disaster
Bullet
California Bound
San Antonio, Tx
Coastline
Honeycomb


"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you."
Born to Lose Posted - 10/24/2006 : 08:29:47
I think for an intro, it doesn't need to be as completist as people are trying to make it. Just a sampling. I really think it should be chronological as well.

Los Angeles
Don't Ya Rile 'Em
Headache
Calistan
Men In Black
All My Ghosts
So. Bay
Robert Onion
Bullet
California Bound
Velvety
Nadine
Horrible Day
I Burn Today
Johnny Barleycorn
liffey Posted - 10/23/2006 : 02:27:01
I'm also making an introduction to Frank. I'm making it two parts, with each half running under an hour. Here's the first installment, covering his first four albums:

1. Los Angeles
2. Fu Manchu
3. Places Named After Numbers
4. Two Spaces
5. Parry the Wind High, Low
6. Don't Ya Rile 'Em
7. (I Want To Live on an) Abstract Plain
8. Calistan
9. Fiddle Riddle
10. Speedy Marie
11. Headache
12. Freedom Rock
13. Superabound
14. Men In Black
15. Jesus Was Right
16. The Cult of Ray
17. All My Ghosts

It's amazing all that great music fits into 56 minutes.

I'll get back to you when I've finished part 2. That one might be even harder to narrow down all the choices.
Luis Bunuel Posted - 10/21/2006 : 23:40:22
The ten-track mix tape, now with reasons!

1. If It Takes All Night - to assure the beginner that Frank loves to rock, and does so with gusto!
2. Places Named After Numbers - to gently introduce the intergalactic motifs in Frank's music.
3. Western Star - to ease the listener into the more countri-fied later work.
4. End of Miles - to show Frank as the "road-weary troubador" that we've come to love.
5. Manitoba - sort of a continuation of the current theme, indefinable roots rock, this time with religious images.
6. Honeycomb - to mellow them out a little after the intensity of the past couple of tunes.
7. Superabound - because it's time for another rocker, and this is one of the best.
8. Don't Ya Rile 'Em - continuing along the same lines, very climactic indeed.
9. Black Letter Day - prime "angry Frank", by this time they're already hooked, so it's time to bring out the big guns.
10. Dog in the Sand - the closer, one of FB's most beautiful songs, a heartbreaking end to the perfect introduction.


Superabounder Posted - 10/21/2006 : 22:43:21
In this very order for my friend who out of the blue went to the fb show on October 9 just so I wouldn't go alone, drove me home when I was drunk, and now keeps telling me to put on some of that "Black guy" whenever we have driven anywhere:

In the Time of my Ruin
Everything is New
Southbound Bevy
Speedy Marie
My Favorite Kiss
Atom in my Heart
California Bound
Baby That’s Art
All My Ghosts
Hostess w/the Mostess
Superabound
Abstract Plain
Western Star
San Antonio
Bullet
So Bay
Adda Lee
Hermaphroditos
Fazer Eyes

Maybe put some Los Angeles in there...can't find my orange album right now to load on my computer and see where it fits. So far that's all I have, with maybe 10 mins left to fit on the cd.




I'd rather be anywhere or doing anything
bonedry Posted - 06/04/2006 : 14:34:15
two spaces
speedy marie
shazed andleeb
all my ghosts
anoouncement
billy radcliffe
manitoba
dog in the sand
superabound
headache
places named after numbers
the modern age

that's the first lp of the 4 record set
Otherfellers Posted - 05/27/2006 : 18:11:47
10 songs, in no order

Baby That's Art
Two Spaces
My Favorite Kiss
Superabound
Six Sixty Six
John the Revelator live from Malmo or wherever it was
Remake/Remodel
Parry the wind High Low
Western Star
Massif Centrale

That's what I'd give someone if I wanted them to like FB.

A little bit of fire never hurt anyone.
pixiestu Posted - 05/25/2006 : 11:46:43
Or maybe something like "Hey honey, you can riddle my fiddle any day of the week!"

"The arc of triumph"
Carl Posted - 05/25/2006 : 09:31:27
quote:
Originally posted by bonedry

chicks seem to dig fiddle riddle


That's how you seduce women, bonedry? "Hey, just listen to this song off Frank Black's second album, honey!"

*swoon*

Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 05/25/2006 : 09:15:17
Well, we've got a finalized selection. Pretty much took the top suggestions here, slightly weighted on occasion, and I think we've got a good mix of sounds and favourites, accessible and interesting. But I have no doubt you'll tell me afterwards the song(s) that we missed. :)


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
bonedry Posted - 05/25/2006 : 09:12:55
chicks seem to dig fiddle riddle
pixiestu Posted - 05/19/2006 : 14:50:47
But keep in mind that however difficult it is to choose a definitive 'best of' in ten or so songs, it can hardly be a 'bad' mix can it?
I mean, any Frank is good Frank.

Whatever the final mix, I'm pretty sure there'll be something for everybody.

"The arc of triumph"

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