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Brank_Flack
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Canada
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Posted - 02/26/2023 :  11:18:13  Show Profile  Click to see Brank_Flack's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Sadducee made its debut last night in Copenhagen. Unless there is another setlist retraction, the whole album was indeed played live throughout the night.
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Active Duck
~ Abstract Brain ~

United Kingdom
410 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2023 :  04:14:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thunder and Lightning - Columbiahalle, Berlin - https://youtu.be/rTxf19QBo_A
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Bedbug
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2876 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2023 :  11:03:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That was great!
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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1846 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2023 :  11:13:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Get Stimulated / Dregs https://youtu.be/eDUfwvRllv4
Doggerel @3:45 https://youtu.be/Kq6hnKzFKKA
Saduccee @3:51 https://youtu.be/SQ8TOmvB16I

Simulated / Dregs are absolutely mesmerizing
A bit disappointed by Saducee. Tuning problems ? Whatís Paz doing at the end ?


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Bedbug
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2876 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2023 :  04:46:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sooooo good
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

2876 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2023 :  08:52:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And yes, Paz definitely meeting the "weird" qualification of being a Pixies member toward the end there, loved it, whatever it was
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Jason Bravo
- FB Fan -

USA
90 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2023 :  20:13:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
She's playing the moog with the foot pedals for the outro of the song isn't she?
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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1846 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2023 :  00:19:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@Jason: yes, and it looks like sheís using it on other songs, too.
Iím really glad they introduced those songs in their set. It brings so much fresh air and the audience seems to appreciate it. The really should keep them in the rotation. Now Iím waiting for a good Saducee version, it sounds like they messed up the harmonies on this one. The others absolutely rocks.


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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 03/04/2023 :  15:14:41  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
They didn't play it last night
It was also missing Thunder and Lightning

(And most of Bossanova and Trompe but that's another point)

Great show with lot's of energy and a full house
(Some very young people too)

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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1846 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2023 :  12:27:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A better Sadducee https://youtu.be/xtzHB8Hdt9w
Nomatterday https://youtu.be/q5CQhMWn3Jw

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Jason Bravo
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USA
90 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2023 :  18:33:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's great either way, but live I think I like Break my Body when Black plays acoustic.
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Bedbug
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2876 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2023 :  14:34:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These Doggerel Tour setlists are great. One of them they played 10 Doggerel songs in a row! That's really something
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5897 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2023 :  00:43:35  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Not everyone likes that
But the Pixies aren't just a nostalgia act

Wish they would play more of the other 2.0 too


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auxfnx
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Ireland
20 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2023 :  01:24:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
damn this is making me a little bit more upset they haven't come to ireland this time around. my biggest wish every time seeing pixies is that they would play more new material. seeing most / all of doggerel sounds like a dream gig.
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =

471 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2023 :  10:08:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.youtube.com/live/Am7DslTm-sE?feature=share

There'll he a live stream of the Paris gig :)

Hope they leave it up for a bit

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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1846 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2023 :  11:26:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks ! Crossing fingers for a solid Doggerel setlist

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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1846 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2023 :  14:00:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice gig, they played the whole damn Doggerel record plus Human Crime, except Dregs/Sadducee.
Should be available later on the Arte Concert website.

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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1846 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2023 :  20:53:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
still available on the original link
https://www.youtube.com/live/Am7DslTm-sE?feature=share

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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1061 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2023 :  23:30:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba

Hope they leave it up for a bit



"AVAILABLE UNTIL 16/09/2023"


it's educational
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2377 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2023 :  15:19:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Birmingham setlist

Wave
River
Human Crime
Head On
Isla
Broken Face
Crackity
Planet
Vault
Who's More Sorry Now?
Haunted House
Get Simulated
Pagan Man
Ana (confusion over the key towards the end) - Charles apologised
Death Horizon
All the Saints
HCYM

Show paused to fix the barrier

Ana (reprise)
Mr Grieves
Brick is Red
Break My Body
Holiday
Vamos
Motorway
Thunder
Lord
Moon
Gouge
Debaser
Tired
Hey
Doggerel
Nomatterday
Caribou
Wave (UK surf)
WIMM
Winterlong


A mixed bag, but not the fault of the band. It was quite apparent during the first Doggerel songs that there was a problem with the barrier at the front. Show paused for five mins while it was inspected.


Some great moments (Paz seemed to be adding some pedal Moog to the Motorway outro, which I haven't noticed before), but the band seemed a little frustrated by a few things.

Hoping for a better show in Cardiff!

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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2377 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2023 :  16:00:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cardiff setlist

Wave
Human Crime
Monkey
Broken Face
Crackity Jones
Isla
Head On
Planet
Vault
Who's More Sorry Now?
Haunted House
Dregs of the Wine
Get Simulated
Gouge
Nomatterday
Caribou
Hey
Doggerel
Bone Machine
Number 13 Baby
There's a Moon On
Thunder and Lightning
Pagan Man
The Lord Has Come Back Today
Death Horizon
Cactus
All the Saints
Ana
Mr Grieves
Vamos
Here Comes Your Man
Nimrod's Son
Motorway to Roswell
Wave (UK Surf)
Where is My Mind?
Winterlong

A better show than last night. The Doggerel stuff really drags, though.
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tamefan
- FB Fan -

Canada
134 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2023 :  21:51:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Olympia (Paris) was professionally recorded and is available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am7DslTm-sE
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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1846 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2023 :  12:04:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tamefan: already posted 2 times on this page but thanks anyway


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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =

471 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2023 :  15:44:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mixed bag for London #1. Band in a really good mood, playing a bit loose and enjoying their occasionally fluffs.

Dave's changed his drumming again which has changed a few of his patterns. Paz was having a whale of a time and even Charles cracked a few smiles

Still not won over by the new stuff, there's none of that BTE punch or variety. Never caught myself checking the time at one of their gigs before but it dragged in places. Enjoyable amount of Trompe (nothing 'new' though.)

Why are Slow Readers Club still a thing? I may be in the minority but they're painfully dull.
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

2876 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2023 :  18:39:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting to hear a couple people say that the new material from Doggerel drags.

Wonder if people feel that anything 2.0 drags.

And wonder if that is why they have been lumping the Doggerel songs together

For the thousandth time I love so much 2.0 material (especially doggerel) but I canít imagine a concert making sense where Isla de encanta is followed by Haunted House.

Today when I was shuffling songs Debaser was followed by Talent and I was like, ďyeah, Talent sounds pretty lame right about now.Ē

All that aside, love that they are doing what they are doing with the doggerel tour

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Troubles A Foot
= Cult of Ray =

USA
764 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2023 :  18:46:38  Show Profile  Visit Troubles A Foot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
For the thousandth time I love so much 2.0 material (especially doggerel) but I canít imagine a concert making sense where Isla de encanta is followed by Haunted House.



For the thousandth time also, yeah. I was watching the show from the youtube link on this page and as much as I like the Doggerel songs, they just fall kind of flat live...kind of by themselves but REALLY in contrast with the older Pixies stuff. They're nice songs with some great hooks and ideas in the arrangements, but they don't get a crowd excited. And I keep trying to think of why, because a song like Here Comes Your Man is fairly pleasant and conventional but the crowd goes insane for it and it's so exciting...but a Doggerel song that's maybe even more interesting seems to not go over well. It's hard to tell from a video, of course. Like I love Thunder and Lightning, that one has really grown on me, but hearing it in the middle of a Pixies show is just a baffling experience. It's as if they started playing Stupid Me or I'll Be Blue or something from a Catholics album.

I should add though that I am 100% in favor or the band doing this. I WANT them to play new songs and embrace them and do what they feel like doing. I get really bummed out seeing a setlist that is like 95% old material.

Edited by - Troubles A Foot on 03/22/2023 21:09:17
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2377 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2023 :  23:54:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Troubles A Foot

quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
For the thousandth time I love so much 2.0 material (especially doggerel) but I canít imagine a concert making sense where Isla de encanta is followed by Haunted House.



For the thousandth time also, yeah. I was watching the show from the youtube link on this page and as much as I like the Doggerel songs, they just fall kind of flat live...kind of by themselves but REALLY in contrast with the older Pixies stuff. They're nice songs with some great hooks and ideas in the arrangements, but they don't get a crowd excited. And I keep trying to think of why, because a song like Here Comes Your Man is fairly pleasant and conventional but the crowd goes insane for it and it's so exciting...but a Doggerel song that's maybe even more interesting seems to not go over well. It's hard to tell from a video, of course. Like I love Thunder and Lightning, that one has really grown on me, but hearing it in the middle of a Pixies show is just a baffling experience. It's as if they started playing Stupid Me or I'll Be Blue or something from a Catholics album.

I should add thought that I am 100% in favor or the band doing this. I WANT them to play new songs and embrace them and do what they feel like doing. I get really bummed out seeing a setlist that is like 95% old material.




I'm not sure if banking them altogether helps or not. Clearly minimising guitar swapping is a factor behind playing them like this (many of the Doggerel songs are capoed third fret for BF, unlike the rest of the Pixies catalogue). They're pleasant songs but some, like Vault of Heaven, go on far too long.

Obviously this limits how easily they can weave new material in as well as on previous tours. The BTE stuff sounded amazing from the start.

Pagan Man seems a bit of a challenge for BF to sing live at the moment.

That said, there are a lot of happy faces at the shows. Absolutely loved seeing people around me hearing the classics for the first time.

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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =

471 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2023 :  01:36:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Doggerel stuff is all relatively low key compared to everything else they've done for 2.0 - there's no What Goes Boom or Um Chagga Lagga. It's just missing a bit of a kick up the arse and some variety. There are no real juicy hooks or big choruses. That's what HCYM has by the bucketload and why people go crazy for it - interesting or pleasant just don't move a crowd in the same way.

I feel like I'm being a bit mean spirited, they were still great last night and I'd take Pixies playing new stuff over almost any other band.

What happened to Um Chagga Lagga and Classic Masher? I thought they had the potential to become staples but they seem to be out for good at the moment.
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =

471 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2023 :  00:04:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No real changes for the second night, bit of a rotation for 4-5 songs.

Good to see Blown Away sticking around. They're in decent shape for their US dates.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5897 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2023 :  04:32:50  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
What surprises me the most is that the BTE and Doggerel-songs have more in common with Bossanova and the less rocky Trompe-songs, but they almost skip those records? And the other 2.0 output too.

They focus on COR-SR and Doolittle but that doesn't fit with the last 2.0 direction.
To be honest everything 2.0 has a more Bossanova and Trompe vibe to me

"Banking them together" (Ziggt) is also a bit too much for the audience I guess.

I'm not complaining. I went to the gig because they play that stuff.
Would not buy tickets to another COR-SR-Doolitle-fest.

And of course Pixies can do whatever the hell they want


Doggerel (title track) would be great next to The Happening and before The Navajo Know or Daniel Boone
Pairing Lovely Day with Haunted House and Dig For Fire
Dregs of the Wine with Hang Wire and Tromple Le Monde (title track)


Magdalena with Thunder and Lightning


(just skip Pagan Man altogether, if you can't reach those notes)


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Troubles A Foot
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USA
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Posted - 03/22/2023 :  21:13:07  Show Profile  Visit Troubles A Foot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I do think Dregs of the Wine is maybe one of the only Doggerel songs that could KICK ASS live. I hope they do it. Unless they did and I missed it somewhere. It has the spirit of classic Pixies, a great hook, and some weirdness and a lot of allowances for some live looseness.

I think "It's just missing a bit of a kick up the arse" really sums it up. There's a scariness and violence (and confidence?) to the classic Pixies that is completely absent in the new live songs, which is fine...but it makes the show feel more like two totally different bands than ever before.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5897 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2023 :  05:49:06  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Nomatterday was also great live, has some kick up the arse

I saw people going beserk for Haunted House too. I did not get that

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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 03/23/2023 :  23:54:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whoís More Sorry now looks well received by audiences, too.

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* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
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Posted - 03/23/2023 :  23:56:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Troubles A Foot

I do think Dregs of the Wine is maybe one of the only Doggerel songs that could KICK ASS live. I hope they do it. Unless they did and I missed it somewhere.


https://youtu.be/POX5TBNKAek
https://youtu.be/YMfUBEtZD5g

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* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 03/24/2023 :  14:27:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was at the Roundhouse gig on Monday and I thought most of the Doggerel songs sounded great! Especially Simulated, Sorry, No matter day, Doggerel and Lord. Yes it dipped a bit for the second Doggerel part (Dregs, Vault, Pagan). But the news tunes were getting a good reaction in the side I was on. And I have to say I was bit bored during Planet, Head On and Something against you, maybe have just heard them too many times (although does not seem to matter for Euphrates or Bone Machine). Anyway I fully agree I would love to see some more 2.0 into mix, Plaster of Paris, Classic Masher, Magdalena, Green n Blues, Oona, Bird of Prey. Would be great.
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