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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1592 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2015 : 11:25:18
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Trying to get a PONO player going.
I'm going to try to set up my own test 192/24 vs. 44.1/16, I'll let you know. There's a "Revealer" track that's crystal clear, but I want something I can trust. |
Edited by - hammerhands on 12/06/2015 11:25:50 |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1592 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2015 : 12:14:25
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Yea, hi-res audio is pretty good.
I haven't tried listening experiments with Doolittle yet, I have studied two tracks, Neil Young's Heart of Gold was a freebie from PONO, and I set up Dolphin Dance by Herbie Hancock, it's the only 24-bit/192khz album I have. Listening on a pair of Audio-Technica M-30 headphones, pretty good quality, low priced cans. Not audiophile stuff.
The difference between CD and 24/192 is immediately obvious on the Dolphin Dance track, there's a prominent ride cymbal in the right ear, very intricate and expressive. You can hear the difference in every hit at 24/192, at CD quality the Whole track sounds darker and the cymbal hits are much less unique.
I also tried 24/44.1khz and 24/48khz. Compared to CD quality, 24/44.1 is much clearer, more separation between the instruments, the cymbal is more expressive. 24/48 has more separation and the cymbal's high frequencies are back. The main difference between 24/48 and 24/192 is the overall clarity and improved separation of the piano and bass in the background.
Another thing I noticed is the bleed over between tracks, the cymbal is being picked up by other microphones. At CD quality it can barely be heard, at 24/44.1 and 24/48 it sort of pulses in and out of existence. At 24/192 you can hear that cymbal all the time and it makes sense and imprives the reality.
On Heart of Gold, the thing that struck me was that I could focus in on something in the track, like the sound of picking the strings. It's very human and complicated at 24/192, just like the cymbal, and not interesting at all at CD quality.
I haven't decided if this is something I'm going to invest in much further. There are certain albums I love to listen to, but many are not available yet, and most are topping out at 24/96. I can get Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here on blu-ray if I spend a lot of money.
I'm really struggling to commit to buying online files. When the company is gone, what happens if I lose my files? I like a well constructed booklet, a presentation.
My friend has golden ears, is a true audiophile and he spent thousands of dollars chasing better sound. If you're happy, you need to just be happy.
This has made me want to hear a high-end vinyl setup with a fresh copy of this track. |
Edited by - hammerhands on 12/14/2015 12:35:48 |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1592 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2015 : 02:13:55
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I tried the same experiment with my iPod Touch without much success.
I'll have to spend some time on that.
------ Ok, I've spent some time on it. I had to go through the line-out of an iPhone dock and into a pretty nice headphone amp to hear the differences in the files. I assume the amplifiers in the iPod are pretty lousy.
I also couldn't hear much difference on my iPad 2 or on my Dell laptop. These files are only useful for high fidelity devices.
And the Pono seems to be a very well engineered unit.
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Edited by - hammerhands on 12/16/2015 12:26:55 |
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1104 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2016 : 05:12:03
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New Iggy Pop album is good. Especially like the track 'Gardenia' has a bit of The Idiot vibe going on. New Violent Femmes album good too, they sound reassuringly exactly like themselves - same with the recent Faith No More album.
Makes me forget this is 2016 |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1592 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2016 : 10:46:33
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Just got the new 50 Foot Wave EP in the mail. |
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2016 : 09:45:38
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Mostly I'm listening to Queenadreena, Daisy Chainsaw and any other incarnation of Katiejane Garside I can find
Bath White is great
_____________________________________________________________________________ "Some people don't have the guts for distance racing. The polite term for them is sprinters." |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2016 : 11:37:10
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Llama - Liking that recommendation. Definitely need to give that stuff some listens. Seems quite a character.
Only new stuff I've really found myself listening to recently is Motherfucker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIajGaBde-g
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7441 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2016 : 20:49:45
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quote: Originally posted by Llamadance
Mostly I'm listening to Queenadreena, Daisy Chainsaw and any other incarnation of Katiejane Garside I can find
Bath White is great
Ooooh... I only have Eleventeen but it's one of my most beloved albums. I never tried to listen to Queenadreena for fear that it would be less great...
Denis
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2016 : 05:09:44
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Built to Spill and Parque Courts |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2016 : 11:05:25
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Enjoying Deerhoof's new one The Magic very much. Also PJ Harvey's The Hope Six Demolition Project - great (apart from the lyrics tbh which are cringey).
Fela Kuti - Confusion & Gentleman albums. Just getting into him & loving it, completely passed me by until recently. |
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =
USA
651 Posts |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2016 : 11:13:35
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Really digging a bit of electro-swing at the minute. Caravan Palace have absolutely smashed it with the song 'Lone Digger'. Can't stop listening to it.
"The arc of triumph" |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2016 : 09:37:57
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Playing these a lot Do/White Stripes 30 Pieces/Claire Lemmon, off her album "Cleaner" which I can't find anywhere. Eg Shining/Cranes No.13 Baby (Instrumental)
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *
1036 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2016 : 10:17:30
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quote: Originally posted by hammerhands [br
I'm really struggling to commit to buying online files. When the company is gone, what happens if I lose my files? I like a well constructed booklet, a presentation.
I enjoy the physicality of cd's, and as you say, the booklet, etc. Your concerns about losing music files are valid.
cheers |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2016 : 01:34:06
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Can't stop listening to the Hamilton musical cast recording.
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If all you see is violins, then I make a plea in their defense. |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2016 : 10:10:06
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London band, just starting to get a bit of exposure over here. Really good this album, nothing groundbreaking - a bit '90s to my ears - but tons of great, quirky melodies. Apparently Krautrock influenced but don't really hear that myself. Definitely worth a try, anyway. Got it on repeat at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN7YA4FO7TY |
Edited by - OLDMANOTY on 10/29/2016 12:39:27 |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2016 : 10:39:14
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Here's great recent album I listen to a lot. Like the best FB songs, the arrangements on this constantly pull the rug from under your feet.
When I first heard her voice I thought she was French, possibly German but she's actually Welsh. Reminds me a bit of Nico. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnZh4E0_7KM
Cate Le Bon - Crab Day
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2016 : 12:01:16
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Earlier this year I discovered The Fiery Furnaces. They're either on hiatus or have split up now, but anyway I think they're a great unsung band from the naughties. A handful of great albums, and Eleanor Friedburger's solo stuff is fine too.
This is the one I keep returning to (horrible production though).
Not particularly representative of the album but I love 'Wicker Whatnots'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_phEu_FUi4k
Right, I'll shut up now. |
Edited by - OLDMANOTY on 10/29/2016 12:34:19 |
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1104 Posts |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2016 : 01:43:53
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quote: Originally posted by OLDMANOTY
Cate Le Bon - Crab Day
That's a good album, her best yet I'd say. She's gone a bit more weird on this one. Find Me is my favourite track.
I like the way she plays some of the guitar deliberately a bit out of tune in this live clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_wv-ZHndIo |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2016 : 10:39:28
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This new Kapitan Korsakov album is actually pretty interesting, it's very diverse and surprising. It's a bit Bauhaus I think is the best way to describe them, Bauhaus wave? Experimental and indie and I suppose it's a punk album at heart, but there are some slow Pink Floyd-esque tunes that suddenly appear on a second or thir listen.
It's Steve Albini produced and so obviously I can also hear a bit of the Pixies in there, especially the vocals and edgy guitars and unusual structure. I've heard a few new Albini albums recently and they've also been rather good.
Makes me wonder, what if... |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1592 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2016 : 11:32:19
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I just got another Kristin Hersh CD/Book in the mail, Wyatt at the Coyote Palace. I love this book format. |
Edited by - hammerhands on 11/08/2016 11:33:13 |
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2016 : 04:11:34
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Been listening a lot to Aaron Freeman's 2014 album Freeman. Freeman was/is one half of Ween. Man it's really really good. It's easily one of the best things I've heard that's come out in the past few years.
Take me to the vineyards of Lavaux Want to see the mountains where the waters flow |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
3079 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2016 : 07:18:18
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quote: Originally posted by johnnyribcage
Been listening a lot to Aaron Freeman's 2014 album Freeman. Freeman was/is one half of Ween. Man it's really really good. It's easily one of the best things I've heard that's come out in the past few years.
Take me to the vineyards of Lavaux Want to see the mountains where the waters flow
Agreed. It's so good. I was really hoping that he would put out another one, but I'm not sure what he's up to these days. |
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *
1036 Posts |
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
3079 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2016 : 13:12:53
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New Dean Ween Group Album is doing it for me
"I like gum!" |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2016 : 11:52:13
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Getting really into the early Big Star discography, thanks to Quarry TV series for turning me on to that.
It seems like there really is an endless supply of new music from the past, present and the future. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3909 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2016 : 23:28:36
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New Stones album was on Radio 6 last night. It's unexpectedly amazing! All blues covers, but sounds like they recorded it 50 years ago! Check it out, I think they just completely redefined the meaning of return to form.. how is this even possible. All musicians have a half life. Not these guys, they'll still be doing this shit in another 50 years time. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6120 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2016 : 00:30:57
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Regina Spektor
--------------------------- BF: Mag ik Engels spreken? |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
3079 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2016 : 10:41:34
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Tommy Guererro |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
3079 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2016 : 02:33:36
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Drvnk Injuns "For Real" |
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *
1965 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2016 : 17:12:42
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Lucy Dacus, Darko the Super, Slomo Drags, Angel Olsen, The Rutabega.
My life is dirt but you seem to make it cleaner... reduce my felony to a misdemeanor |
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