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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 08/16/2019 :  10:41:34  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I loved that tour
It was weird

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Bedbug
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Posted - 08/16/2019 :  11:59:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peter radiator

quote:
Originally posted by jake3

Interviewer: “So those late-’00s Black Francis records and the records you made with Violet Clark as Grand Duchy exist because the re-formed Pixies were not yet a recording entity?”
Black Francis: “Exactly. Any of those records could have been Pixies records.”


He quite literally drove all around Europe for a month, screaming his bloody head off, prowling / stalking the stage and rolling around on his back like a man possessed in front of his fans just to help work out the frustration of the whole thing (whether he realized it consciously at the time or not)...

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Was that like Rockefeller Skank era?
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Bedbug
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Posted - 08/16/2019 :  12:01:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fumanbru

very good drunk post trans! i don't see any gramatical errors. you did spell "guess" incorrectly on your second post but i know what you are saying.

at first i wasn't keen on toe in the ocean....but i have to say it has really grown on me.

after going over the lyrics i got a different perspective of the song.

Another Toe In the Ocean

I have a drink I start to sink
I put my toe in the ocean
I have a drink I start to sink
Another toe in the ocean

Down on the shelf an elf I saw
I took his picture he was waving
I passed again and now they're gone
I think my picture is worth saving

No more waiting for a new day
you've got to swim sometimes
I'll be here for the rest of my life
Up in the land of green
making love in the cool, black sand
Thinking where I've been
I put my toe in the ocean
Another toe in the ocean

Merry making with the fairies
Going down to the onion patch
To you and me to shining seas
I see the lights of Edward Thatch

No more waiting for a new day
You've got to swim sometimes
I'll be here for the rest of my life
Up in the land of green
Making love in the cool, black sand
Thinking where I've been
I put my toe in the ocean
I have a drink I start to sink
Another toe in the ocean

I have a drink I start to sink
Another toe in the ocean
I have a drink I start to sink
Another toe in the ocean
I have a drink I start to sink
Another toe in the ocean
I have a drink I start to sink
Another toe in the ocean


Edward Thatch : http://latinamericanhistory.about.com/od/Pirates/tp/Ten-Facts-About-Blackbeard-The-Pirate.htm


"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"...long live snitz!!



Just noticing that the song has six parts, which would possibly be a reference to the six toes of Goliath of David & Goliath fame.
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Bedbug
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Posted - 08/17/2019 :  02:25:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Furthermore, the David and Goliath story tells us that Goliath was six cubits tall, was wearing six pieces of armor, and had a spear that weighed six hundred shekels. Six sixty six.

The Apocalypse says that the mark of the beast is six sixty six, but it also says that the beast will rise out of, you guessed it, the ocean.

The sixth toe of Franks's ocean is another warning not to take the mark of the beast. Don't wait for the empty promise of the new day. Swim out of there and find new life.
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Stevio10
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/17/2019 :  02:28:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

quote:
Originally posted by sdon

Oh imagine Pixies versions of songs, carefully selected by the whole band, like Gyaneshwar, Dead Man's Curve, Threshold Apprehension, Tight Black Rubber, I Sent Away, The Seus, Fort Wayne...

We wouldn't be talking about 2.0 vs 1.0

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Would Pixies versions of those songs be better though? There's something about the off the cuff feel of Bluefinger and SVN Fngrs that make them unique. Pixifying them sounds great in theory but I'm sure for something gained there would be something lost. I'd still love to hear it though.
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Bedbug
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Posted - 08/17/2019 :  03:06:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of the songs sdon listed only a couple have any female vocals in them, so I guess those songs would be improved to the listeners who prefer Kim’s voice.

I’m not sure Joey or Dave would make all that much of a difference to those songs, hence the argument that Pixies is 95% CT4.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/17/2019 :  03:35:37  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Joey's manic playing would be interesting

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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 08/17/2019 :  08:15:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most recent Joey manic playing was which 2.0 song?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/17/2019 :  08:32:24  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
What Goes Boom
Indy Cindy's bridge

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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
628 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2019 :  10:00:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Bedbug



The sixth toe of Franks's ocean is another warning not to take the mark of the beast. Don't wait for the empty promise of the new day. Swim out of there and find new life.



The original 1940s version (and it's subsequent hit remake), which are still regarded as early ukulele standards (which likely drew FBF's attention in the event he was simply unaware of the tune from his childhood) have been pulled from YouTube due to copyright violation -- but here's a fairly recent, fairly inconsequential "modern rock-ish" cover of the song that I still maintain lies at the heart of "Another Toe," both lyrically and even in terms of the basic feel of the chord progression:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Di75YbtYI

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/17/2019 :  10:16:35  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peter radiator

quote:
Originally posted by jake3

Interviewer: “So those late-’00s Black Francis records and the records you made with Violet Clark as Grand Duchy exist because the re-formed Pixies were not yet a recording entity?”
Black Francis: “Exactly. Any of those records could have been Pixies records.”


He quite literally drove all around Europe for a month, screaming his bloody head off, prowling / stalking the stage and rolling around on his back like a man possessed in front of his fans just to help work out the frustration of the whole thing (whether he realized it consciously at the time or not)...

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"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder



I always love your writing, Peter Radiator.
Have high hopes for your review of the new record.

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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1738 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2019 :  21:57:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peter radiator

The original 1940s version (and it's subsequent hit remake), which are still regarded as early ukulele standards (which likely drew FBF's attention in the event he was simply unaware of the tune from his childhood) have been pulled from YouTube due to copyright violation -- but here's a fairly recent, fairly inconsequential "modern rock-ish" cover of the song that I still maintain lies at the heart of "Another Toe," both lyrically and even in terms of the basic feel of the chord progression:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Di75YbtYI


What the hell, The melody sounds like some 70s Hanna Barbera cartoon theme called Groovie Goolies.
(But thanks for the trivia, PR)

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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 08/18/2019 :  04:08:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by picpic

quote:
Originally posted by peter radiator

The original 1940s version (and it's subsequent hit remake), which are still regarded as early ukulele standards (which likely drew FBF's attention in the event he was simply unaware of the tune from his childhood) have been pulled from YouTube due to copyright violation -- but here's a fairly recent, fairly inconsequential "modern rock-ish" cover of the song that I still maintain lies at the heart of "Another Toe," both lyrically and even in terms of the basic feel of the chord progression:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Di75YbtYI


What the hell, The melody sounds like some 70s Hanna Barbera cartoon theme called Groovie Goolies.
(But thanks for the trivia, PR)

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Thanks Peter and good point pic
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
737 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2019 :  20:54:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peter radiator

quote:
Originally posted by jake3

Interviewer: “So those late-’00s Black Francis records and the records you made with Violet Clark as Grand Duchy exist because the re-formed Pixies were not yet a recording entity?”
Black Francis: “Exactly. Any of those records could have been Pixies records.”


He quite literally drove all around Europe for a month, screaming his bloody head off, prowling / stalking the stage and rolling around on his back like a man possessed in front of his fans just to help work out the frustration of the whole thing (whether he realized it consciously at the time or not)...




That tour was something else
So much raw power
BF all dressed up in black, with black nails, black shades, and no socks
Great stage presence by Ding, Normal, and Carter, very punk
Kim's or Paz's bass would have been more melodic
Dave's drumming would have had fewer fills and more hammering, not sure if for the best
Joey of course would have been the one with the most different signature
I liked Jason Carter's approach to recording / production, more natural and abrasive than Norton's or Dalgety's



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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
628 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2019 :  00:28:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by sdon
I liked Jason Carter's approach to recording / production, more natural and abrasive than Norton's or Dalgety's



Some of that approach has to do with personal preference on the part of FBF and Jason, but much of it is surely the result of the technical limitations / time constraints of a very low-budget project done in a much less technically phenomenal facility with far fewer bells and whistles....

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Troubles A Foot
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USA
143 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2019 :  06:16:02  Show Profile  Visit Troubles A Foot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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He quite literally drove all around Europe for a month, screaming his bloody head off, prowling / stalking the stage and rolling around on his back like a man possessed in front of his fans just to help work out the frustration of the whole thing (whether he realized it consciously at the time or not)...

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Hrm, any footage or bootlegs from this tour?
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

1896 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2019 :  07:03:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know if this is what anyone is talking about but I always thought this was a good job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAxdnVXh6aM
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/19/2019 :  07:26:00  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
https://youtu.be/LfXic1eVR4U

In Belgium

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 08/19/2019 :  07:35:45  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That Guy has A lot from that show, which was not in Belgium
But France:

https://youtu.be/4MKQg6xV97E

It was so energetic

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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1738 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2019 :  10:16:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
he wasn’t making a dime out of those shows did he ?
Very punk

I think this is a review of one of the french shows (en français dans le texte)
https://www.foutraque.com/chronique_concert.php?id=2874

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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

827 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2019 :  11:10:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No socks! Rock n roll!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekJjLkd_1PI
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

1896 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2019 :  08:18:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In case you missed the official video. I REALLY enjoyed this thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH-vzQwcf4c

Edited by - Bedbug on 08/22/2019 08:19:08
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1738 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2019 :  10:21:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Baby character is FB.
I think I remember some BF interview about this video and the baby character, he said people often say he looks like an big baby
(we have the proof here: https://youtu.be/eLwdjdmEfJY?t=615)

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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 08/22/2019 :  10:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I assumed all three were FBF in one form or another?

Lots of cool imagery that video. Comments helped me see the Nevermind ref and the WIMM ref.

BTW the video definitely makes me think the song is about the battle with the bottle
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