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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 11/21/2014 :  05:29:52  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
anyone know what's up with the difference in vinyl releases? mistake or not?
pixiesmusic and amazon list it as a 2x vinyl
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NIUEC7Q/ref=ox_ya_os_product
and the 4ad site has a 3x vinyl
http://shopusa.4ad.com/doolittle-25-b-sides-peel-sessions-and-demos-double-lp
(except in the URL and item in cart it's called a double lp)

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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 11/21/2014 :  08:35:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Look closely at the details. The original amazon version doesn't even contain "Doolittle", for no apparent reason. It only contains the demos and peel sessions. I feel sorry for anyone who per-ordered the vinyl release, actually expecting to get a copy of "doolittle."
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 11/21/2014 :  19:37:41  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Will this be available on blackfrancis.net?
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benji
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New Zealand
3420 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2014 :  17:51:08  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
listening to this now, and so far got to wave of mutilation (demo 1) and it's like it's not even the same damn song!
now that's what i call a demo!
3 tracks into it and it's already awesome!

what's the rest going to be like?!?!




all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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musefreek
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United Kingdom
14 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2014 :  00:24:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is now on Spotify.

Loving these demos! Defo going to get the vinyl release.
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

294 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2014 :  03:07:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by musefreek

This is now on Spotify.

Loving these demos! Defo going to get the vinyl release.



I can't find it for some reason. Are there regional restrictions? I'm in the U.S.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1871 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2014 :  10:48:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great demos !! Kim vocals on I Bleed & Sliver are great.



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pixie punk
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2923 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2014 :  04:57:39  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.popmatters.com/review/188736-pixies-doolittle-25/

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rivum
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
256 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2014 :  06:51:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benji

listening to this now, and so far got to wave of mutilation (demo 1) and it's like it's not even the same damn song!
now that's what i call a demo!
3 tracks into it and it's already awesome!

what's the rest going to be like?!?!




all i can say, thank god for polio! brian



is it a different demo than on "complete b-Sides" / "Give Me Ecstasy"?

**EDIT** my bad, it's not on "complete b-Sides", I meant "B-Side File vol 3" bootleg

Edited by - rivum on 12/03/2014 06:57:26
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BunsenH
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294 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2014 :  08:38:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For 'Wave' (demo 1), it has a completely different verse--different lyrics, melody, chord progression, everything (the choruses are very similar). 'Wave' (demo 2) sounds like the version on 'Ecstacy'.

Also, 'Debaser' (demo 1) has completely different lyrics on the verses, some of the phrasing is a little different as well. For the chorus he sings Kim's 'Debaser' line over and over.


quote:
Originally posted by rivum

quote:
Originally posted by benji

listening to this now, and so far got to wave of mutilation (demo 1) and it's like it's not even the same damn song!
now that's what i call a demo!
3 tracks into it and it's already awesome!

what's the rest going to be like?!?!




all i can say, thank god for polio! brian



is it a different demo than on "complete b-Sides" / "Give Me Ecstasy"?

**EDIT** my bad, it's not on "complete b-Sides", I meant "B-Side File vol 3" bootleg

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benji
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New Zealand
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Posted - 12/03/2014 :  21:47:18  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I believe that none of the "Demo 1" tracks had surfaced before - I certainly cannot remember hearing them on any of the bootlegs etc. The "Demo 2" tracks are the same as have been available on various bootlegs etc.
Some of the "Demo 1" tracks are very different versions to the "Demo 2" and album versions.
They're a real treat.



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rivum
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
256 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2014 :  03:33:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just listening now - wow, is it ever different (wave, I mean)!
and here we were thinking there was nothing new in this package...
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

294 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2014 :  09:27:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benji

I believe that none of the "Demo 1" tracks had surfaced before - I certainly cannot remember hearing them on any of the bootlegs etc. The "Demo 2" tracks are the same as have been available on various bootlegs etc.
Some of the "Demo 1" tracks are very different versions to the "Demo 2" and album versions.
They're a real treat.



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian



It does beg the question then: Why didn't they include ALL of the "Demo 1" recordings and ALL of the "Demo 2" recordings? Why hold back? Now, there is material on 'Ecstasy' that has need been officially released and some "Demo 1" versions of songs that have not been released. Looks like we're going to get milked again somewhere down the line. More importantly, how come my copy hasn't come in the mail yet. I pre-ordered.
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pixie punk
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2923 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2014 :  07:18:44  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5SFBx4NQw Joey and David Doolittle Promo.

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

2923 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2014 :  11:25:14  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://louderthanwar.com/pixies-doolittle-25-album-review/

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1034 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2014 :  15:43:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw this article recently, short but the comments are interesting:

http://www.avclub.com/article/hey-love-ballad-done-pixies-style-212516
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1099 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2014 :  23:30:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so are there two versions of the LP? a double LP with only the bonus tracks, and a triple LP that also includes the original album?
or is that some misunderstanding, and are all vinyl copies triple LPs?

i also still haven't received my copy. i also pre-ordered.


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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =

518 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2014 :  05:37:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm

I saw this article recently, short but the comments are interesting:

http://www.avclub.com/article/hey-love-ballad-done-pixies-style-212516



Deal said pretty much that in an interview years ago. Pixies love songs aren't 'Ooh, I love you, baby.' Pixies love songs are, 'Kiss me cunt'.

http://youtu.be/ooTcTpMqFfg?t=2m4s

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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1592 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2014 :  10:09:48  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hammerhands

I want it.

Pre-ordered.

Now wait.

Still waiting.



Not a good sign that I didn't remember this. I was making plans to get to the store.
How come I can't forget life's terrible moments?

Surprise in the mail today.
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1034 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2014 :  15:05:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is another article on 25th for Doolittle:

http://www.avclub.com/article/25-years-pixies-doolittle-still-rock-perfection-212575
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =

518 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2014 :  03:43:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm

Here is another article on 25th for Doolittle:

http://www.avclub.com/article/25-years-pixies-doolittle-still-rock-perfection-212575



quote:
Doolittle’s cleaner, more commercial sound wasn’t lost on Albini, who in an interview a few years later chastised the band. “Their willingness to be ‘guided’ by their manager, their record company, and their producers is unparalleled,” he said. “Never have I seen four cows more anxious to be led around by their nose rings.”


In some ways I admire Albini. He certainly tells the truth about the recording industry, both then and now. Mostly Albini is just a scheming, immature, little prick. He made fun of Doolittle, but he called the album that HE recorded for them a 'patchwork pinch-loaf'. Albini acted like the sexually frustrated nerd he is....he tried, and failed to get into Deal's pants.
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1099 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2014 :  06:57:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BunsenH

[quote]Originally posted by benji

More importantly, how come my copy hasn't come in the mail yet. I pre-ordered.


Still no sign of it on this side. :(


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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1099 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2014 :  01:33:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Something arrived today, but I wasn't home. So I have to pick it up at the post office tomorrow. This could be Doolittle 25. Fingers crossed.


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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

2923 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2014 :  10:45:25  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.undertheradarmag.com/reviews/pixies_doolittle_25/

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1099 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2014 :  23:17:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, I've finally got the album.

The pre-ordered vinyl also comes with the original album. But it does look a bit like an afterthought. I wonder if it was always the plan to include the original album, or if they decided afterwards to add it.
The two LPs with bonus material are in a gatefold sleeve, each LP in one half of the cover. The original album comes in an extra (single, inner-) sleeve that was simply placed in between the folded gatefold sleeve; in the middle. I don't think I've seen that before. It's a bit odd.

I guess this means all vinyl copies come with 3 LPs, even the ones that were sold as double LPs (like the one I pre-ordered). Correct? Or did anyone get a double LP without the original album?


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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
943 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2014 :  11:21:21  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
where did you order from?
i ordered the 3x vinyl from 4ad but it's yet to arrive, and by the tracklist it seems the album isn't included

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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
943 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2014 :  11:23:13  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
err strike that; 4ad 3x does have the original album as one of the 3x vinyls

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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1099 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2014 :  09:13:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matto

where did you order from?


http://pixies.tmstor.es/

i remember when i ordered it, it clearly only mentioned the bonus content on the LP. now the LP says "discs: 3". (however, the description doesn't mention the original album anywhere.)


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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2014 :  11:19:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i just recieved the CD´s plus t-shit....lovely :D
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2014 :  01:54:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wave of the disc 3 is amazing, is a very different song
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

294 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2014 :  03:33:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

i just recieved the CD´s plus t-shit....lovely :D



I ordered first day. How come no t-shirt?
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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
943 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2014 :  13:18:56  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
just got the vinyl
amazing set!
wave uk bside sounds mildly distorted - anyone else hear it?
otherwise its brillianr

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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2014 :  00:17:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

Wave of the disc 3 is amazing, is a very different song

Adda Lee different

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DruggedBunnyToo
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2014 :  13:15:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool to hear the earlier version of Debaser with "Shake! Apollonia!" -- I'd read about that but didn't know they'd recorded it that way.


--
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"They call this dance the Washed-Up Crawl."
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1099 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2014 :  21:07:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

Wave of the disc 3 is amazing, is a very different song

Adda Lee different


haha, yesss!


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