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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1099 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2014 :  22:59:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
must've originally come from the german amazon: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00M4QNOXS

i can't find it on any of the other amazons.


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Edited by - Discoking on 09/07/2014 22:59:43
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2014 :  18:04:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmmmm. 5 Vinyl? i think maybe 5 cd.....

"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception."
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1034 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2014 :  15:34:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there going to be unreleased material on here? It doesn't seem like five or six discs would be enough for the studio albums and the unreleased, but I don't know. I think this will eventually see release; I wonder if their music will garner different reviews both because of the presentation of the music and because so much time has passed since the band ended.

cheers
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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =

503 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2014 :  16:09:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New shit better come to light.
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1099 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2014 :  21:19:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
all the information on amazon could be completely off.

why does it appear on amazon.de, and gets copied by amazon.fr, but nobody else?
wouldn't it make more sense if this first appeared on amazon.com or amazon.co.uk?

vinyl? huh?

and that release date? wouldn't there have been a message by the bureau by now, if this was coming out in october?

also, check out this picture we got earlier:

6 discs in that picture.


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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1291 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2014 :  11:22:04  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm

Is there going to be unreleased material on here? It doesn't seem like five or six discs would be enough for the studio albums and the unreleased, but I don't know. I think this will eventually see release; I wonder if their music will garner different reviews both because of the presentation of the music and because so much time has passed since the band ended.

cheers



Actually 6 discs seems just about perfect to include unreleased material. All of the studio albums combined are only a little over 4 and a half hours of music. That can go on approx. 4 CDs, plus an extra disc and a half or two of space for unreleased, B sides, etc. Since it's all supposed to be alphabetical, shouldn't matter that each disc has 72 minutes of music. Assuming each disc isn't meant to be a statement in and of itself - it's just a giant comprehensive library.

As for vinyl, I don't expect to see it simply because of the cost to produce and the probable low demand. I can't imagine it would be worth the investment in this format. So few people would buy it (I would). It would probably be 10-12 LPs btw.

Now, if down the road, they individually release each album in it's original format on vinyl, that might be worth their time. An alphabetical vinyl box set can't be broken into individual records, and very few people would shell out the $400-$500 it would probably cost.

If you're going to produce a vinyl box, best to follow the example of most other bands releasing their albums in sets - the original albums can be bought as a set or individually.



My density has popped me to you.

Edited by - johnnyribcage on 09/12/2014 11:23:21
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1066 Posts

Posted - 09/15/2014 :  03:37:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't the internet exclusive B side albums 'Snake Oil' and 'One More Road for the Hit' take this up to atleast 5 discs?

I havent heard all of the content from them so I am looking forward to it, even more curious to hear if there are any exclusive unheard tracks included.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1291 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2014 :  12:30:44  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Probably, if not a little more. Throw in the Sunday Sunny Mill Valley aborted record and you're almost there on the 6 discs. Speaking of Snake Oil and One More, I bought those long ago, seems like I remember them being itunes exclusives or something. Anyway my old hard drive crashed shortly thereafter before I backed them up and they've been unavailable for a long time. Bummer I can't seem to find them. Oh well, I'll keep waiting for the box I'm sure they'll be on there.



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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2014 :  08:50:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage

Probably, if not a little more. Throw in the Sunday Sunny Mill Valley aborted record and you're almost there on the 6 discs. Speaking of Snake Oil and One More, I bought those long ago, seems like I remember them being itunes exclusives or something. Anyway my old hard drive crashed shortly thereafter before I backed them up and they've been unavailable for a long time. Bummer I can't seem to find them. Oh well, I'll keep waiting for the box I'm sure they'll be on there.



My density has popped me to you.



I'm in the same boat. I often find myself singing the Belle Isle chorus and wishing i could go hit play somewhere. i think the SSMVGD songs appear on either and or both of Snake Oil/OMRFTH. At any rate if they do (re)release each album i would like to see SSMGVD/Snake Oil/OMRFTH as a 2 or 3 LP set.

"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception."
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2014 :  05:57:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"SSMVGD" is a dead issue, I think, since it was mostly either released as B-sides or re-recorded for later albums.

And I'll bet $100 that the box set includes the B-sides. Wouldn't be the "Complete" Catholics without them.
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windupbird
- FB Fan -

127 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2014 :  20:02:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To me, if there are no tracks that haven't been released before, I'm not really sure I understand the point of the reissue. Doesn't it feel like buying the same songs all over again? I guess you could say that if they are in alphabetical order, you're buying a different listening experience.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2014 :  22:46:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you're an audio nut (which I am not), the remastering might be of interest here.

In any case, in 2014 all CDs are just trinkets anyway and hard copies of the original albums, though out of print, aren't hard to find if that's all you want. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole Catholics catalog could be found on Youtube. CDs today are mostly just nice things to own for those so inclined. Me, I look forward to the box because I see it as the tombstone for a band that I love. This is not a soulless cash cow job from a corporate label. It's something straight from the artist himself. And he doesn't need the money. If he wants a cash cow, he has more viable options than a box set of his most low-profile period. This box set, and its quirky presentation, is a little piece of Frank Black/Black Francis's vision and I look forward to it.

Its appeal is limited, sure. That's fine. The appeal of The Catholics was pretty limited, too.
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1099 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2014 :  03:51:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, you've convinced me. i'll take ten.


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11674 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2014 :  18:15:05  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well answered, Jason.


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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2014 :  10:29:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I want my catholics box nooooow!!!

Hi guys!
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1291 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2014 :  14:51:22  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

I want my catholics box nooooow!!!








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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7437 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2014 :  20:49:58  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did you spend 4 days working on this?


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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1291 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2014 :  06:35:14  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

Did you spend 4 days working on this?


Denis



I don't think it was even 10 minutes. googled veruca salt, found that pic, pasted the album in the pic, save, upload.



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Edited by - johnnyribcage on 10/09/2014 06:36:01
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2014 :  19:21:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

"SSMVGD" is a dead issue, I think, since it was mostly either released as B-sides or re-recorded for later albums.

And I'll bet $100 that the box set includes the B-sides. Wouldn't be the "Complete" Catholics without them.



alright perfect for a picture disc them. shmee shmer

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shedshrine
- FB Fan -

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2014 :  11:58:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course we have all the master tapes, they're right in ....damn.


Edited by - shedshrine on 10/24/2014 12:33:34
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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =

503 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2014 :  14:51:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where the hell is this thing already?
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1484 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2014 :  15:08:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mmmm


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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1066 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2014 :  22:59:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone know if the John Peel sessions will find their way on to the box set?
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shedshrine
- FB Fan -

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2014 :  07:30:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Definitely next year...Definitely.
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