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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *
1965 Posts |
 Posted - 07/14/2004 : 23:00:01
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Tonight, as I was walking out of the bar to my car, this woman approached me and said "Excuse me." Now I've had this woman approach me a few times before, and she always gives some sob story about her woes and hardships, and she's quite convincing since she doesn't seem as homeless as some bums and has a calm and composed voice. But I wasn't gonna hear the damn story again, I know she's full of shit. So after she said "excuse me," I just kept walking and said, "I can't help you. I have nothing. Just one dollar." And that's the truth. She calls after me, "I just want to know what time it is!" And I say, "Oh, about 1:30."
When I get to my car, it occurs to me that this bitch is trying to get me to feel bad for assuming that she wanted money. She is black, so that made me feel like she was trying to say I was prejudice for stereotyping her. I shouldn't have let her trickery to get out of seeming like a bum get to me. But it actually affected me, cuz I thought to myself, "What if that isn't the same woman? It was dark out, hard to see clearly." But I'm positive it was the sob story woman. In fact, I know it was cuz of her voice and height. Still, what if that's really all she needed, the time? Tough for her. I guess it's the boy who cried wolf situation.
But still, this woman certainly is manipulative, made me feel bad for basically telling her to fuck off with her lies.
"You can FUCK OFF!!! Cuz I'm workin' sixty a week"
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Edited by - TarTar on 07/15/2004 04:36:32 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 23:12:54
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what, do you think every black woman who says "excuse me" is trying to bum money?
just kidding.
since moving out of my parents house i've pretty much always lived in areas where there are a lot of homeless. Berkeley, San Francisco, Santa Cruz, and now Venice. i'm used to it. but it does bug me sometimes too.
i will say, the homeless here in Venice/Santa Monica are some of the most fashionable bums you will ever see. there's this one guy who manages to keep himself (relatively) clean, wears a cool suit, and is always smoking an expensive looking cigar. i don't get it. it's a mystery to me.
he stole my coffee once when i was in the bathroom at a coffee shop. true story.
i think he just casually meanders in nice extablishments and manages to steal peoples coffee and cigarettes and cigars.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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begeegs
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 03:10:16
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| Well had it been an actual inquiry for the time, I would think that the person would have gotten offended that you said that and said something rude in response rather than 'i just wanted the time'.... |
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
1972 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 06:34:23
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Yeah man, she got you there.
"Oh, I didn't want anything...i just want you to talk to me so I can wear you down and make you give me something...anything..."
Like that guy in Falling Down - remember - the guy in the park?
I was walking past Buddy Guy's in Chicago about 1am with a buddy of mine - took a couple shots of the marquee and this young bum is like "Hey man - lemme talk to ya fer a second..." so, while I was walking away backwards I snapped a pic of him...so he says "Hey - lemme axe you a question." and I just said
"Nope no questions - you don't get no questions and I got no money."
and we just kept moving.
I can't deal with bums man.
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Edited by - KimStanleyRobinson on 07/15/2004 08:23:56 |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 07:59:01
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No bums where I live. They'd impress me if they did...gettin' all 20 degrees below zero here in the winter.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 08:45:29
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 08:46:17
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| Some Bums are funny....there's this one near my school that just holds his hat out and says, 'drop it like a dog' or 'you all know the drill'... |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 09:56:47
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Originally posted by BLT
I don't give money to bums unless they are missing at least half of a limb.
there's only one bum in Burbank anyway :) that guy who always hangs out at Bob's Big Boy with his guitar case. you know who i'm talkin' about.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:01:59
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| I hate it around here b/c there are alot of kids who ask for money on whyte avenue who you know damnwell just came from their parents house in suburbia. They aren't there in the winter but as soon as it warms up to a tolerable level then bang there they are in their name-brand duds, not even trying to busk, just sitting there like bumps on logs hoping for some $ instead of getting a job. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:05:51
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and they're not even trying to busk? well i never!
(ok, what does busk mean?)
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:12:16
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Whyte ave here has tons of buskers.
People playing instruments or drawing pics for change.
Like your bum in Burbank. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:12:37
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busking is street-performing. playing a ukelele, painting yourself silver and standing really really still, doing the robot.....
you guys are all hobophobic!
(ok, i just wanted to say hobophobic)
"These waters run deep, it's clear my little one/Blue velvet star sky not a sound
The light in your eyes, the smile on your ruby lips/Tells me my lost soul is found" |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:16:56
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our bum in Burbank doesn't play his guitar. he just keeps in in the case. also, he doesn't ask for money. he just talks to himself all day. is that still busking?
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:17:17
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hehe shine,
thanks for the definition.
If anyone ever visited this city look for the
blue and/or sometimes robot guy on whyte.
He is sooooooo good at what he does.
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
367 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:24:25
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I get mad when I see people begging for money...if they can sit on a corner all day and have the audacity to ask for money, then they could just as easily be an annoying hardware salespeople selling overpriced servers and crap. There are so many jobs. I hate people that say the economy is bad. It isn't! There are tons of jobs, you just might have to learn to construct different widgets.
Most of my money goes to the Sony Corporation. A free useless remote with every purchase.
Damn, I am so f'ing depressed. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:28:29
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not all remotes are useless
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:32:33
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One of our local bums died two weeks ago, where I live we have a community of funny tramps and they are well known well looked after and well liked (My personal favourite is mr bottle glasses who wonders around with a cane, stops whenever I walk past and wheezes "nice tits....." bless him)
Anyway, Wilf was a character, he was funny. Out of defiance at the state of our local public toilets he used to stride up to the outside, squat and drop his load... they have improved I might add.
When he died the tramp community and alot of the people of the village (It's not a village it's just caled one) Made a memorial on the bench he slept on, It had masquerade masks, empty JD bottles, bits of things tramps collected plastic bag sculptures traffic cone, sequins balls of string, paintings done by some of the schoolchildren, poems written on chip paper, all of the flagstones in the square were chalked with goodbye messages. It was wonderfull, I thought who cares this guy was a tramp, he was known and thought of and it was a beautifull memorial, If I die I hope I get one just like it
So, RIP Wilf
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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KingOfSiam
- FB LinkMaster -
USA
460 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:35:04
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:39:11
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What really irritates me is when I get off a major interstate and there is a homeless man with a cardboard sign at the end of the exit. Either that or at a 4-way interesection.
I don't want to sound like a heartless ass (or an assless heart?), but even if these people really are homeless, they could at least be respectful and not disrupt traffic. There are hundreds of other places to bum money. Why do they have to stand near a stop sign or stop light? It makes me feel uncomfortable because if I pretend to ignore him/her I feel like a jerk, but if I acknowledge him and don't even consider rolling my window down, I still feel like a jerk. It's not that I don't like giving money to homeless people, I just get pissed when several cars in front of me do. Am I really a jerk? I did give a quarter to a homeless man sitting on the sidewalk the other day. And I gave a whole dollar to a black homeless woman while eating a taco in my car in a taco bell parking lot.
Just quit a cult / going through withdrawal |
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
367 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:41:14
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The only remote to have is one of the Philips Prontos with a touchscreen. They rule. You can control your entire IR house and X-10 goodies. It's all XML based and you use a software program to create your own buttons in any shape you want to control your tv's, dvd players, receivers, and lights all from one little remote.
I feel like telling bums, "Get a job!", because I have two.
Frank's band is better than your band. Sing it. |
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
367 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:46:42
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Originally posted by KingOfSiam
I always tell bums that if they shave my ass nice and smooth then I'll give them a quarter!
...and why is your ass furry? Are you a lemur? |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:48:32
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This is really cruel... but I've always wanted to keep a bunch of job applications for Starbucks and McDonalds in my car to hand out to those same traffic-jam homeless people that irritate me.
Just quit a cult / going through withdrawal |
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
367 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:49:41
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Originally posted by ProverbialCereal
This is really cruel... but I've always wanted to keep a bunch of job applications for Starbucks and McDonalds in my car to hand out to those same traffic-jam homeless people that irritate me.
Just quit a cult / going through withdrawal
Classic!
Frank's band is better than your band. Sing it. |
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Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:58:21
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You need a place of permenant residence to get a job, I met a girl once who had left home in scotland and made it all the way to birmingham, I was having a bad night and a bit of a cry in the doorway of a shop and she came over and asked if I was ok. We chatted for a long while and she told me about herslf why she'd left home, this poor girl, she was thin but not druggy thin and dirty her clothes in bits. She didn't ask me for any money, she showed me her savings, she had £6 and was saving for ten because there's a hostel where you can pay £10 for three nights if you're homeless. Three nights means a permenant residence and if you get a job in those three days the hostel lets you stay longer. I wanted to take her home I really did. There was no guilt trips, no begging, she told me her story I told her mine I bought her some food gave her the rest of the money for the hostel and saw her there.
I'm not some sort of pro-hobo either, I try not to carry money so I have none to give them when they ask, but a good trick is when they ask for x amount for a coffee a sandwich a bag of chips, say no, but I will buy you a coffee a sandwich a bag of chips, you'd be surprised how many look at you disgusted for this. But the ones I do take for dinner are generally sound people on hard times..
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
367 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 11:08:44
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 16:53:12
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I hate people that say the economy is bad. It isn't!
Yes, it is. Plenty of statistics will tell you that.
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There are tons of jobs
Doesn't mean the economy isn't bad.
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you just might have to learn to construct different widgets.
Not everyone is mechanically inclined.
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I feel like telling bums, "Get a job!", because I have two.
Are you willing to give one of them up to a bum?
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 16:57:13
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"multi-quoter, multi-quoter"!!!
"These waters run deep, it's clear my little one/Blue velvet star sky not a sound
The light in your eyes, the smile on your ruby lips/Tells me my lost soul is found" |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 18:27:44
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What's wrong with multi-quoting? Isn't it better than multi-posting?
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 18:28:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Tre
You need a place of permenant residence to get a job,
did you know that in the US you can claim "nomadic" residence and don't have to pay taxes.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
367 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 18:53:56
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Originally posted by VoVat
[quote]Plenty of statistics will tell you that.
And??? They are...where? The unemployment level is the same or better than when Clinton was in office, 6%.
What I meant about 'widgets' is that there are jobs if people don't mind learning new skills. I don't expect to do what I'm doing forever.
Frank's band is better than your band. Sing it. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 19:32:04
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Did I SAY the economy was good during the Clinton administration?
I've heard it WAS better, actually, but I don't know the numbers, and there were still a lot of people without jobs.
Besides, unless I'm mistaken, the whole "unemployment level" thing is very misleading.
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo. |
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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =
Equatorial Guinea
649 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 20:43:24
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Indeed it is. That is current unemployment benefit enrollment. When people slide off the other end (benefits stop) they go into a statistical black hole. The key data is workforce size and GDP. Both of these have been in the shitter since march of 2000, along with the NASDAQ. The bell curve might start angling upward in three years or so, but only if we can reverse the trade and budget deficits and maintain or improve our currency rate against the Yen, Euro, and the Pound. If we hit 2 pounds sterling to the dollar by year end, '05 is not going to be pretty. Mark my words.
That said, a lot of homeless shelters in the US provide residence qualification for employment, and soup kitchen food isn't bad (at least in the southern states). The people asking for money are a) crazy or retarded or b) grifters (or both). I have argued with homeless people about how they "have their dignity" so they won't go to a shelter, then sit on the street and beg for money. I have gotten along very well with some of the homeless guys around the Chicago Board of Trade (except crazy mary - she'll squeeze yer nads. real hard.) Gave some old thermals to one guy in particular who was trying to make a comeback, had lunch with him once or twice.
Regarding the 20 below weather, Chicago is overrun, even in winter. Personally, I'd move south by boxcar.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 21:31:01
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Last year, at my sister's dance recital downtown, this woman came up to us crying and pleading for some money. She said she hadn't eaten for days and she just wanted to get some food because it hurt so much. See, I always try to help people even though I know that they might be lying but my mother is a hard as nails bitch and doesn't like to help anyone. Anyway, I say I'll go get her some food while my mother is telling me I'm a fool. The woman complains that I'm not going to come back and my mother says of course I will and then the woman cuts her crying bit, fed up with how long it has taken to weasel money out of us and realizing that all she'll get is food, and she walks away. She goes to the next group of people with the same story, word for word, and the same phony crying.
At this year's dance recital we see the same woman from our car window giving some guy the same old song and dance. She took him for a dollar. I hate when my ho mother is right and I hate being lied to. I want to help people and will still assume people are honest and in need of help (real help, not drugs or alcohol) but it burns my ass that people like that make others skeptical of people asking for help.
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
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Posted - 07/16/2004 : 01:38:50
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there used to be this classic homeless couple who lived outside the train station near where i lived.
every day they would play out the same domestic incident resulting in the women pleading for money so she could use the phone to call a hostel cause she was leaving her husband for good...this time.
but the best thing was once i saw them again about 30mins after their 'play' and i saw them both using mobile phones.
made me laugh.
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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =
Equatorial Guinea
649 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2004 : 06:32:07
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When I was 17, in a parking lot of a convenient store with a friend, a bum stuck his head in our car window with a story about having a flat and needing 8 more dollars for a tire, and how his little girl was in the car blah blah blah.
My friend looks over at him and says "Man, you had a flat *last* week."
This guy reels back, and goes "So? Maybe I got another one!"
Then I told him he was a fuckhead for abandoning his daughter like that, and any crazy motherfucker might snatch her so he better get back to the car, wherever it is. He had me going for a second though.
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2004 : 06:39:19
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Damn bums
