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MMike
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Sweden
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 Posted - 07/13/2004 : 18:48:13
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Which Pixies song is the hardest to play on the guitar in your opinion
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Edited by - MMike on 07/13/2004 18:48:43 |
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1672 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2004 : 19:29:27
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I cant figure out how to play hey on guitar even with the tabs i can never ge tthe right sound, maybe i have to tune the guitar differently?
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 02:46:16
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I started my guitar lessons four days ago. So all their songs are difficult to me.
By the way I can only play the rithym guitar in Vamos and Cactus Intro.  Maybe the Pixies are not a good reference band to start with, uhh?
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 03:56:12
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ya,
the bass, lead and chord prog (Bm,G,Em) thing is grand but that sort of lick (muted click) from D Bm is hard to figure out.... know all the stuff but cant get it to sound right at all.... Frank is a pure genious... |
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Mad Lucas
- FB Fan -
Australia
149 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 04:18:10
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I think Joey's part in Vamos would be tough (Dave's would be a good test of endurance too!)
However, overall Pixies wern't the most complex band instrumentally. However you can be as good as you want at an instrument, but the ability to write a great song, as FB did, is much harder to obtain.
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 05:44:39
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 06:24:41
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There is a part in Rock Music, where Frank kind of, kicks up the chords a semi-tone and back down again really quickly, I find that very hard, at least getting it to sound right anyway.
I can't think of a song that is particularly hard. I had to find another way to play Frank's part to 'hey' because of the way I play guitar. Frank plays it on D at the bottom of the neck, but I play it up near the barre chord location. Something like that....
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 07:40:48
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I can never figure out Hey either. I know it's just a bunch of hammer ons on the 3rd and 4th fret, but just can't get it to sound the same.
I actually learned how to play the guitar from a Doolittle songbook. I think the first song I learned was Here Comes Your Man. Pretty easy chords but that Bm screwed me up for awhile. I spent the summer of '92 (is that a Bryan Adams song) with my guitar around my neck and the Doolittle book in front of me. |
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1672 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 08:30:12
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I just learnt crackity jones today on guitar (its very easy) Its such a fun song to play i think im gonna learn more, ALso I think its alot fun to jam with vamos and just beat up your guitar lol while they other player plays the rythym. Do you know where there are pixie bass tabs cause I play mostly bass now.
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wasteofo2
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/14/2004 : 11:26:46
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I think Space (I believe in) is ridiculously hard, I've heard the Pixies never even played that live...
I don't worry about a thing, cause I know nothing's going to be alright.
- Mose Allison
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 07/14/2004 : 11:55:35
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Hey pissed me off for a while, even with tabs. I cracked it about a month ago though, using this sites tab, which is excellent.
The funny thing is, once you've learnt a supposedly hard part, it becomes so natural and easy you're never quite able to understand why you thought it was so hard to start with. |
Edited by - PixieSteve on 07/14/2004 11:57:18 |
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1672 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 12:35:32
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how do u get it to sound good steve
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 12:39:30
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
Hey pissed me off for a while, even with tabs. I cracked it about a month ago though, using this sites tab, which is excellent.
The funny thing is, once you've learnt a supposedly hard part, it becomes so natural and easy you're never quite able to understand why you thought it was so hard to start with.
Very true! I think it's mostly because of the rhythm and the muting. I've noticed frank isn't playing it quite like he used to in the original Pixies' days. Maybe he even had some trouble.
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the tolerant
= Cult of Ray =
298 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 13:14:01
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took me a while to figure franks little lead on the verses of dig for fire. sounds like he's just jammin on the one note but trying to nail it myself...took a while.
it was only until i saw him play it did it sorta click. its the same with his jammin during 'i've been tired'. genius, simple but again only Frank can make it sound like that.
in general the way he strums his six string.....wow. never seen anything like it. you gotta dig his solo version of 'i'm amazed |
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darkoutsider
= Cult of Ray =
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 17:28:31
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You know what song I can't get down... Mr. Grieves. I just can't figure it out. No matter how hard I try I can't hit the right chords. Does anyone know the song well enough to show me? Please!!
In my defense... I'm just sayin' |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 17:46:34
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Mr. Grieves is actually one of the easier songs.
One part that I've seen a lot of people screw up on is the D, A, part. The D is a powerchord x5777xx, and the A is a bar chord 577655. Pretty easy, just have to switch strings and formation. The only notes that aren't bar chords are the E and the G7. 012200 for the E and 320001 for the G7.
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darkoutsider
= Cult of Ray =
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 19:02:31
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Oh okay, so I've been over complicating things. Okay... okay. See I was doing all these jazz and regge chords. When all this time it power chords, bar chords and open chords. Damn, thank you Nate Dawg now I can annoy my band with that song. That's the only song off of Doolittle I didn't know, I know all the others.
In my defense... I'm just sayin' |
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darkoutsider
= Cult of Ray =
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 19:12:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Skatealex1
I cant figure out how to play hey on guitar even with the tabs i can never ge tthe right sound, maybe i have to tune the guitar differently?
The Truth Is Out There
Well the way I play is Bm: xx4232, F#: xx4322, Bm: xx4232, D: xx0232. Except at the end of the verse it's a plucked Dsus2 I think: xx0230. Though when Frank plays it he hits 5th fret on the B string and pulls off to hit D, same thing. Sounds right to me. Then the chorus Bm, Gmaj, Em. The solo is the best part, but that you figure out on your own, unless you can't then email me or I'll post or someone else will post it on here. That's how my band does it and it sounds right to us. Only thing is it sometimes looks like Frank is playing a Bm7 chord but I play a Bm because he uses it throughout the song. I hope I didn't confuse anyone.
In my defense... I'm just sayin' |
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1672 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 22:36:51
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How do you play bam thwok? hahahahah. The hey solos up on the site, thanks outsider
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 02:41:24
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| Apart from 'Hey', which is fiendish, I found the rhythm of 'Nimrod's Son' a little tricky to nail. But after a load of practise, it sounds great. |
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 02:58:26
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Oh yes, definitely. Nimrod's Son, I'd been playing that slightly off for years until I got the DVD. I can't believe he could (can) get that many strums out of his acoustic in such a short time!
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
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Posted - 07/15/2004 : 03:49:08
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Originally posted by misleadtheworld
I can't believe he could (can) get that many strums out of his acoustic in such a short time!
reminds me of the Bad News quote...
Colin: "I've never had to move my arm up and down 50 times in my life!"
Vim: "Now is that true Colin?"
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Mad Lucas
- FB Fan -
Australia
149 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 05:56:02
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Frank's little 'double strum' in Holiday Song looks fairly fast to play. He looks like a pretty crazy strummer, judging by how many string he breaks haha.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 14:05:22
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He's a very aggresive guitar player! He's also very under-rated. He pulls off some tricky shit, especially his solo/Catholics stuff.
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rockmusic84
= Cult of Ray =
USA
256 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2004 : 08:25:21
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Hey is very hard to play. The chorus is easy, but it's the verses that kill you. Vamos isn't hard to understand, but the way Frank plays it is very difficult. Sort of off beat.
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2004 : 08:47:03
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By the way, if anyone wants accurate tabs for Pixies songs, don't hesistate to drop me a line, I've learnt the Frank parts for 95% of the Pixies songs, and know quite a lot of Joey and Kim parts too.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2004 : 11:55:13
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| Has Frank broken any strings on the latest tour? Compared to the show on the DVD! |
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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =
Chile
652 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2004 : 19:04:33
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| Dead is pretty difficult to me. Charles' guitar part is kinda weird. |
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The Sad Punk
- FB Fan -
Brazil
17 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2004 : 19:56:48
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Joey's solo in the final part of Trompe Le Monde.
The Sad Punk
I smell smoke that comes from a 12 gauge PUMP shotgun named extintion.
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MMD
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
233 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 09:10:42
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How to play Hey, my way.
Ok if you're trying to play Hey try my way out, it's dead easy and it sounds right. You don't really have to move your hand much atall either.
First, keep your hand in the D chord shape (XX0232) and use your little finger for the hammers onto the 4th fret of the G string.
To get the little click click simply lift up your hand so your fingers are still touching the strings but not pressing down on the frets and strum twice quickly.
Key: D = Downstrokes
U = Upstrokes
D UD D D U D U
E------XX---------2-----
B--3---XX---3-3-----3-3-
G--2h4------2-2h4---4-2-
D-----------------------
A-----------------------
E-----------------------
From watching the DVD and listening to the album I worked out this is basically right although I play it like this:
Finger diagram (1=first finger etc.)
(Fret) 1 2 3 4
E 2
A 3
D 1 (4)
G
B
E
Frank plays it more like this, with a mini barre on the 2nd fret with is first finger:
(Fret) 1 2 3 4 5
E 1 (?4)
A 2
D 1 (3)
G
B
E
And he does something with his 4th finger on the 5th fret of the high E string but I can't work it out.
“Not since Orson Welles had one man so many fingers in so many pies, and been the chef as well. And then looked like he went and ate them all. The guy was out of control.” |
Edited by - MMD on 07/25/2004 09:36:28 |
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 13:05:45
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That looks right.
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2004 : 14:23:59
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Sorry for being slack with those email requests, I'll try to get on it this week.
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Ulises
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Posted - 07/29/2004 : 01:05:18
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| The lead guitar un Trompe Le Monde is hard for me. =( |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 06:54:42
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MMD, tab looks good, the only difference between what i play and you play is the first muted upstroke i play as a 2 on the high E, and i use the one finger over the top three strings, like frank... i can't hammer with my pinky!
also, it doesn't look like you've included the bit where he changes to F#? he does it the second time, and every fourth from then. for this you really need to user you finger to cover them all, because you lift your second finger and hammer it onto 3rd on the string bellow, leaving your finger over the second fret on the two strings above.
hah, complicated? i can't be arsed to tab. and anyway, it's only pretty much what the tab says here: http://www.frankblack.net/tabs/pixies.asp?song=doo-hey |
Edited by - PixieSteve on 07/29/2004 06:55:29 |
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MMD
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
233 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 08:29:32
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Yeah after making my post I checked and realised what I put is pretty much the same as the tab we have on this site. I also saw the F# bit, I didn't know that was what he was playing, I'm still sorta new to guitar (well I've been playing for a year an a half now but it doesn't seem like long) but my Hey is now much better, thanks.
“Not since Orson Welles had one man so many fingers in so many pies, and been the chef as well. And then looked like he went and ate them all. The guy was out of control.” |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 09:21:16
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| hey that's awesome to have worked out the tab yourself. i've been playing myself for about the same, and couldn't do it for ages even when looking at a tab, lol. |
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