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robotblood
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 Posted - 07/08/2004 : 22:35:51
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..taken from an article in Time Out New York (5/2001) I stumbled upon where Bob Pollard reviews new releases for the writer, including DITS. I find it more difficult to tolerate the Fading Captain's uneven body of work when I read this shit!
Frank Black and the Catholics: Llano Del Rio (What Are Records?)
RP: There's a lot of mixed genres in this song, and I'm more into straightforward rock. It's pretty bad. Who is it?
TONY: Frank Black.
RP: No! Is that Frank Black? He's lost his mind! He has! I would have never guessed that. Actually, I haven't liked his stuff since the Pixies, and I loved the Pixies. It has nothing to do with my friendship with Kim Deal, either. I met a few of the (other) Pixies, and they weren't very nice people. Sometimes even when you're a fan of someone, if you meet them and they aren't very nice, it turns you off to their music. But, I can listen to the Pixies 'cause they're so good. Even the cover (of this album) sucks. They've all got sunglasses on.
TONY: Well, they're in Los Angeles.
RP: Oh, is that it? It's hard to be good when you're from LA. It's too happy there: What are going to write about? He needs to hang it up.
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Edited by - robotblood on 07/08/2004 22:38:21 |
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Opaque
= Cult of Ray =
USA
251 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2004 : 22:49:52
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quote:
Originally posted by robotblood
From the article:
Sometimes even when you're a fan of someone, if you meet them and they aren't very nice, it turns you off to their music.
Yanno, that part is actually kind of true.
"My primitive words match my primitive heart..." - Mercury Rev |
Edited by - Opaque on 07/08/2004 22:50:48 |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 07:46:25
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It's happy in LA? That's not what I'VE heard!
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo. |
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 08:05:27
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Odd comments about the sunglasses. They are OUTSIDE. You think he jumped on the bandwagon and owned an original copy of all the DiscLives?
Free the Heel! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 08:23:15
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| Cool. Another thread about artists we don't respect because they have different tastes than us. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 09:07:43
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And Pollard doesn't even seem to have the pretention that bothered a lot of people about Sonic Youth's comments. Saying Frank has "lost his mind" isn't very polite, I suppose, but it's basically just a matter of taste. I really can't understand why anyone would dislike "mixed genres," but to each his own.
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 09:33:43
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If I were Frank I might be a little offended since he's called "not very nice", told "he's lost his mind", and it's suggested that he "hang it up", but it doesn't really offend me. I just happen to disagree and am led to believe that many of the same things could be said of Bob just from this article.
If you don't like the music, fine, but don't air your dirty laundry. That's not very nice either.
That said, I still like GBV/Mr. Pollard and have had "Cut-out Witch" in my head for the better part of the morning. I'm sure he didn't mean to come sounding as mean as he did. Certainly in comparison to the Sonic Youth thing (which, I have to agree with BLT, was really not that bad either) he seems like he's full of praise. Or at least has some nice things to counter the bad:
"I can listen to the Pixies 'cause they're so good."
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 09:51:32
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| In print you can't hear how a person says things. He was obviously joking. Or maybe not-- maybe when he said, "He's lost his mind," he actually meant that Frank is certifiably insane and should be incarcerated in a psychiatric institution and put on medication. |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 10:35:37
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who the hell IS bob pollard anyway?
 join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 11:02:19
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What's with people playing these songs? As much as I like Tony's Theme and Llano Del Rio, they are not where Frank really shines, in my opinion. Any other track played from DITS and I'm sure his comments would've been different.
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Edited by - misleadtheworld on 07/09/2004 11:03:25 |
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thedutch
- FB Fan -
Canada
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 12:11:09
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tony's theme is one of my least favorite Pixies songs ever
also GBV is the spotiest band ever
I like to make bold statements |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 12:23:44
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i don't think the DITS picture is in LA.
il n'est pas être facile le Maître des quesadillas, mais il se sent bon. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 12:27:48
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Originally posted by BLT
...maybe when he said, "He's lost his mind," he actually meant that Frank is certifiably insane and should be incarcerated in a psychiatric institution and put on medication.
I definitely think so. :)
"When 5000 posts you reach / Look as good you will not, hmmm?" |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 12:28:27
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Munchien, Bob/Robert Pollard = frontman for Guided By Voices.
"When 5000 posts you reach / Look as good you will not, hmmm?" |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 12:30:58
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Originally posted by floop
i don't think the DITS picture is in LA.
il n'est pas être facile le Maître des quesadillas, mais il se sent bon.
Is it from near the Sutro Baths in SF? |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 12:35:30
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i think so darwin.
i remember asking Harris (when he was around here) if it was from the "St. Francis Dam" site.. and he said it was taken in SF. (if i remember correctly)
il n'est pas être facile le Maître des quesadillas, mais il se sent bon. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 12:41:52
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Originally posted by darwin
Is it from near the Sutro Baths in SF?
That's definitely where it is, out at the end of Geary! |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 13:28:34
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Munchien, Bob/Robert Pollard = frontman for Guided By Voices.
"When 5000 posts you reach / Look as good you will not, hmmm?"
i see. never listened to any of their stuff which means that they suck.
join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 14:57:05
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Opinions are like assholes. We all have them. So Bob Pollard doesn't like one of Frank Black's songs. Sue him for emotional damages.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
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robotblood
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 20:17:48
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as the original poster, need i remind those who are busting my balls for posting this article and, *gasp*, expressing my opinion on Bob's obvious slag of FB that this forum hosts such nonsense topics as "SMYT Survivor", "Does Any One Here Actually Like Frank Black?", and "Is Frank a Macho Macho Man?". Why is my topic off-limits? BLT, I apoligize if this topics bores you enough that you HAD to post a snide reply, but I really wasn't trashing Pollard for his taste. I thought he was overly nasty when discussing FB, and I thought it would be alright to share my opinion.
Sorry for the interruption of the fun.. Now lets get back to more important things, like rating your top 10 FB&C songs that start with the letter H, B, and L. |
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =
USA
936 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2004 : 20:37:07
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There really are reasons I don't venture much out of the General Chat area anymore.
"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders
www.transposed.net |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 07/11/2004 : 06:47:07
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quote:
Originally posted by WolfManMikeLonely
There really are reasons I don't venture much out of the General Chat area anymore.
"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders
www.transposed.net
Ditto.
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8863 |
Edited by - PsychicTwin on 07/11/2004 06:47:50 |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 07/11/2004 : 10:12:36
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Bob Pollard always says unkind things of other bands
he doesn't have to mean it
half of the time he's drunk anyway
I saw a concert of them on the internet
and he said all those nice things about Jon Spencer
and even dedicated a song to him
When I saw GBV last year he told us that we should
make fun of our friends who were attending Jon Spencer shows
He is a weird guy who flames almost everybody
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf" |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 21:46:42
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BLT's not snide, robotblood (=oil?), just sarcastic. It's his way. :)
For the most part, I think everyone's generally just posted counter-opinions, not necessarily anything attacking you personally, but I haven't read through this thread since my last post and have too many to go through.
"When 5000 posts you reach / Look as good you will not, hmmm?" |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 15:13:54
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Who's "busting your balls" robotblood? They're discussing what you posted.
BLT? One person makes a sarcastic comment, and it's "those that are busting your balls?"
On the topic - I do think it's weird that someone who has written and released so many crappy songs would make such a comment. He apparantly has no shame or inner-monologue to speak of.
I love GBV to death, but I'd have to say that the ratio of good material to crap coming out of Bob Pollard is about 30/70. Now since he's written about 90,000 songs, that leaves us with a heck of a lot of good, but he's in no position to comment on the quality of work that some other artist has released! |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 07/12/2004 : 15:39:57
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quote:
Originally posted by El Barto
Opinions are like assholes. We all have them.
And most of them stink.
Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
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Just Lost Respect for Bob Pollard
