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broken part
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Posted - 07/11/2004 :  13:13:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK. Lets get a few things straight? Which Pixies Amsterdam show did you people go to? The same one as I, at HMH?

.... it was the worst concert I have ever been to.

I've only seen them live twice so one has to be the worst and the other the best, but still, it was pretty poor.
The venue was shit. No athmoshepre no nothing. Built like a hangar they might as well parked a plane in it. The sound was shit with feedback on the vocals when there shouldn't have been one and volume wasn't loud enough. I expected to go out with my ears thumping. I didn't. And they should really do something to ventilate that place. I'm surprised Frank didn't choke, all that smoke can't be good for his voice.

There was something wrong with Frank guitar or sound at the start he had to call a roadie on stage in the middle of the first number for something. It's true the band was good (as always) and with Frank in full screaming mode not holding anything back there were some high points like u-mass and vamos but all in all it was lacklustre. The fact that they didn't do a second encore kinda shows it. Just as well since I was nodding off towards the end.

On the other hand nothing in the universe will ever top their gig in Ljubljana.

Edited by - broken part on 07/11/2004 13:18:40
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billgoodman
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Posted - 07/11/2004 :  15:34:27  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by broken part

and volume wasn't loud enough. I expected to go out with my ears thumping. I didn't. And they should really do something to ventilate that place. I'm surprised Frank didn't choke, all that smoke can't be good for his voice.




yeah, did you attent the same gig!

My ears were bleeding for 2 days
the sound was way too loud!
Ventilate that place?
It had airconditioning!
It was pretty cool up front
The venue was ok, I personally would like to see
them in a small venue, but that wouldn't be fair to the amount of pixies fans who wouldn't have a ticket


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broken part
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Posted - 07/11/2004 :  19:45:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
haha, then soundwise it must really make big a difference where you were. If experiences are so uneven they really need to redisign the interior. And that place might have had all the air conditioning in the world it didn't do shit with 5000 sweaty ppl in there. But I guess that if you were up-front you didn't notice.
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Posted - 07/12/2004 :  00:13:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
broken part:

>>Which Pixies Amsterdam show did you
>>people go to? The same one as I, at HMH?

It's the same question I've for you ...

>>The venue was shit. No athmoshepre no nothing.
>>Built like a hangar

I guess you've never been in a hangar.

>>volume wasn't loud enough.

What was that fucking noise I had for two days
in my ears, after the concert ???

>>I expected to go out with my ears thumping.
>>I didn't.

Were you in the Hall or out ?

>>And they should really do something to
>>ventilate that place.

ROTFL. There was air conditioning !!! And during
the Snow Patrol's concert it was really cold !!!
I guess you've never been in a concert with thousand
of people and without air conditioning. And in the
summer. That sucks !

>>There was something wrong with Frank guitar

Everybody (not blind/deaf) noticed it.

>>On the other hand nothing in the universe
>>will ever top their gig in Ljubljana.

Everybody has his favourite concert.

Smile.

Ciao !!!
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Posted - 07/12/2004 :  02:13:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doryphore

Finally, I didn't like the sound. I was standing about 30m from the stage, not so far from the middle, and the sound was very 'muddy' now and then.

The sound in the HMH seems to lack in the back.
Up front it was really loud, but good nonetheless.

It was my first time at the HMH, but it's a nice venue for that size. And you don't find many with air conditioning. You really felt it was winter during Snow Patrol (how apt).

So both critical post here (Doryphore and Broken Part) just confirmed my opinion: Never watch a show from way too far in the back.

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Posted - 07/12/2004 :  03:19:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not the band's problem - they were great. It's just a shit venue. There are much better places in Amsterdam (Pixies in Paradiso could have been the best gig in the history of the universe), but the HMH has the biggest capacity.
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billgoodman
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Posted - 07/12/2004 :  04:40:05  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by broken part

haha, then soundwise it must really make big a difference where you were. If experiences are so uneven they really need to redisign the interior. And that place might have had all the air conditioning in the world it didn't do shit with 5000 sweaty ppl in there. But I guess that if you were up-front you didn't notice.



yeah that's what I thought too
up front the sound was way too hard
and at the back of the venue it was muddy and soft
that sucks I guess
That should lose some of that speakers at the side of the stage
and place them anywhere else



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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  02:39:27  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i just got downtothewell.com's recording of this show in the mail, and it seems like it would have been a great gig...

they really seem to be extending and altering a fair few of the songs, which i love.
sure only in small ways, but just enough to keep it interesting.
songs that i noticed major differences to the brixton shows were gouge away, debaser and cactus, which incidently were ythe first 3....
and fantastic version of vamos...at just over 6 minute, is also the longest version i've heard..love it!

just a pity martin's battery died after 55mins, but the 55min he got are great, and it is a fantastic recording....
one of the best audience pixies ones i've got...


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debaser1976
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Posted - 07/23/2004 :  03:40:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benji

i just got downtothewell.com's recording of this show in the mail, and it seems like it would have been a great gig...

they really seem to be extending and altering a fair few of the songs, which i love.
sure only in small ways, but just enough to keep it interesting.
songs that i noticed major differences to the brixton shows were gouge away, debaser and cactus, which incidently were ythe first 3....
and fantastic version of vamos...at just over 6 minute, is also the longest version i've heard..love it!

just a pity martin's battery died after 55mins, but the 55min he got are great, and it is a fantastic recording....
one of the best audience pixies ones i've got...


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how did u get it ?

tnx
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benji
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Posted - 07/23/2004 :  03:55:30  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well martin asked me if i wanted a copy.

he also posted about it here:
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8862


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ee
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Posted - 07/23/2004 :  04:00:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
and fantastic version of vamos...at just over 6 minute, is also the longest version i've heard..love it!


It was indeed a great version!

But at the Brixton Academy June 5 performance they extended Vamos to 7 minutes and 2 seconds!

You can still buy and download this gig at [url=http://www.disclive.com/artist.php?artistid=79]DiscLive[/url].
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benji
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Posted - 07/23/2004 :  04:06:19  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ee
But at the Brixton Academy June 5 performance they extended Vamos to 7 minutes and 2 seconds!



really!
wow...and that happens to be the one brixton show i DON'T have...

right, better track that puppy down.....

i can't wait till they extend vamos out to over 10mins - that would be great.....

cheers.


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Edited by - benji on 07/23/2004 04:06:55
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