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mun chien andalusia
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Posted - 07/05/2004 : 20:27:32
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the only thing that i decided after my first time was that i wanted some more.
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 08:38:10
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quote: Originally posted by mun chien andalusia
the only thing that i decided after my first time was that i wanted some more.
*sigh* The greek lover myth is so not dead mun chien!
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 08:45:26
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The whole thing about the Freud mother/father thing:
When I was younger I used to have THE biggest crush on Micheal Caine. Ive never met my dad, well, up to 6 months old I 'knew' him. When i started getting curious about ym dad, my mum showed me some pictures. He looks pretty much identical to micheal caine, just better looking.
I was beyond freaked by that. And in fairness, the fact that Ive never had a dad is most likely why I go for older men. Not so much looking for a father figure, more just some one to protect me, which I never had from a male figure ( to the extent other girls have) when I was younger.
I dont Go for liars...I just dont think there are many honest men, at all. And in fairness, not all guys have been like that, just ones ive ended up in major relationships with...and they seem to be getting more and more strong parts of the personalities ( i also seem to be going for aries and capricorns, which isnt helping...).
However, i am just talking about most recent relations. Guys ive just been falling around with, here and there, arent (to my knowledge) like that at all(well, all except one, but thats not gonna happen again, so it dont matter). So i think I may have got out of the phase.
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 08:48:49
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Weird. There was a study where women were given high amounts of testosterone...
Huge sex drive and facial hair were some of the, hmm...what shall I call them..."Symptoms"?
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 08:53:15
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what the fuck has that got to do with my post?!?!?! Was that random? please, explain!
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 08:59:53
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Oh, yes, sorry. I'm very spontaneous...I was just thinking, "Huh...weird...it's usually always the male attracted to people who look like their mothers instead of vice versa." And then I remembered hearing about the study and I thought it was funny so I thought I'd share. I have a VERY strange thought process. I've literally gone from bananas to chameleons like that! *snaps fingers* Whoa...that's loud..I never knew I could snap my fingers that loud. Holy shit!
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 09:01:53
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spontaneous is an understatement!
Heh, I have the sex drive thing, but not the facial hair, thankfully!!!!
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 09:03:32
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You mean you shave?
(Hahaha, I'm just kidding.)
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 09:04:34
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Probably more than you do.
(oh come on,that was good!)
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 09:05:33
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You're probably right, hahaha. I only ever shave when I'm going out somewhere. Then and only then.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 09:52:35
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What do you mean by older men? Cos it seems most girls go out with guys who are generally a bit older 2-4 years. However if your meaning guys who are 24+ no wonder you meet 'bad' guys. Obviously I can't speak for you but in my experience (unless the guy is a bit slow) older guys go out with younger girls for the whole "im fucking a ..year old" that or they can't get someone there own age either way theres somethin up. There is less emotional attachment due to the age gap. You could counter this by sayin "but malax you were/are seeing a 15 year old" I'd answer that with yes, and thats why I know what Im talking about. Although I don't go round saying Im shagging a 15 year old cos I would be arrested. I understand that this argument is a little flawed so don't bother to point it out. Thank you.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 10:08:16
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Um Malax, you're argument is a tad flawed ;) |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 11:25:52
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Among adults (say age 24+), 2-4 years older isn't really "older". Not remarkably so. I'd say there typically has to be a 8-10 year gap (again, among adults) before the age difference comes into any consideration.
And it's not just men who go for younger partners. Women do as well. When I was 22, I dated a 34 year old woman for a time. Before me, she dated another 22 year old. After me, she dated yet another 22 year old. I don't know who she's with now, but I can't imagine her with a 40 year old guy.
Women hit the peak of their sex drive in their mid to late 30s. At that age, many single women don't mind a fling that's just based on sex and fun with someone dumb & pretty. And lots of guys in their early 20s are the same. So it can be a fun match. Just not for long.
And one reason older men often go for younger women is because the dating scene turns into even more of a jungle as you get older. |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 11:38:19
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Don't men reach their "peak" at around 18-20? I seem to recall a comedian (well into her thirties) talking about hanging out at a highschool with a Playstation. Something like that, atleast.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
Edited by - TheCroutonFuton on 07/06/2004 11:39:58 |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 11:44:50
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I hear that's true, but things like Viagra are probably changing things for men. |
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mun chien andalusia
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 13:09:40
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men reach their peak at around 18-20? nonsense. thirty something men prefer younger women to those of their age. and they can easily get them, instead women at their thirties start being hysterical about relationships and scare the hell out of men and have to lure 18 year olds with playstations. this is not a rule of course but i've seen it happen. when i was 18 i was lured(playstations didn't exist at the time so i had to go with more traditional stuff like sex) by a 28 year old. she was about to get married and still she went out with me. then the mariage didn't happen and started to ask me to go out with her and her 30 something friends. that stuff really scared the hell out of me and to my friends' surprise i stoped responding to her phonecalls and shortly after i treated her so bad that she still doesn't want to talk to me after 10 years.
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 13:21:03
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....Physically reach their peak. That's what it means with women. They reach their sexual peak physically.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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El Barto
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 13:33:14
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This thread gives me a sexual peak in my pants.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
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mun chien andalusia
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 13:34:55
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crouton are you trying to prove me old? everybody knows that women are jealous of mens' good aging so they invent that stuff. and i assure you that teenage enthusiasm alone doesn't has a chance against experience. i clearly remember that when i was 18 i was snobbed by alost every decent girl of my age or older. now it is pretty much the exact contrary. and scientifically speaking at 18 years you are still imature (you don't even have all teeth or a decent beard) but you are a complete adult between the age of 25 and 35. that's your top and it is in your hands to prolong it as much as possible.
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Jason
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 17:15:15
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No no no, "sexual peak" doesn't mean the peak of their attractiveness.
A sexual peak is the peak of one's sex drive and ability to perform. As men get older, men gradually produce less testosterone. Testosterone is the source of the male sex drive (testosterone is the hormone that makes men interested in sex).
Which means that, for many men, their interest in sex and ability to get and keep an erection will decline as they get older.
But now there's a whole industry producing things like viagra so it's not too big of a problem. |
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 17:16:26
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Thankyou Jason.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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Opaque
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 18:12:08
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quote: Originally posted by Jason
Women hit the peak of their sex drive in their mid to late 30s. At that age, many single women don't mind a fling that's just based on sex and fun with someone dumb & pretty. And lots of guys in their early 20s are the same. So it can be a fun match. Just not for long.
BAH! Here's to everyone gettin' their freak on 'til their 170!
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 18:58:21
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quote: Originally posted by Jason
Among adults (say age 24+), 2-4 years older isn't really "older". Not remarkably so. I'd say there typically has to be a 8-10 year gap (again, among adults) before the age difference comes into any consideration.
And it's not just men who go for younger partners. Women do as well. When I was 22, I dated a 34 year old woman for a time. Before me, she dated another 22 year old. After me, she dated yet another 22 year old. I don't know who she's with now, but I can't imagine her with a 40 year old guy.
Women hit the peak of their sex drive in their mid to late 30s. At that age, many single women don't mind a fling that's just based on sex and fun with someone dumb & pretty. And lots of guys in their early 20s are the same. So it can be a fun match. Just not for long.
And one reason older men often go for younger women is because the dating scene turns into even more of a jungle as you get older.
I was refering kinda to Mel who is 18 so its 6 years atleast.
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The King Of Karaoke
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begeegs
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 02:15:04
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quote: Originally posted by mun chien andalusia
crouton are you trying to prove me old? everybody knows that women are jealous of mens' good aging so they invent that stuff. and i assure you that teenage enthusiasm alone doesn't has a chance against experience. i clearly remember that when i was 18 i was snobbed by alost every decent girl of my age or older. now it is pretty much the exact contrary. and scientifically speaking at 18 years you are still imature (you don't even have all teeth or a decent beard) but you are a complete adult between the age of 25 and 35. that's your top and it is in your hands to prolong it as much as possible.
join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
I find that first bit of this post to be very true. For some reason, there is some psychological reason in which women get blasted for being old (especially in the US) whereas men don't - why is that? I never understood it.
I too was blasted by females when I was between the ages of 18-20, but I do think it is largely because of men being completely wet at that time and not able to tear themselves away from from their boyhood pursuits. In fact alot of my work colleagues are still deeply in their boyhood pursuits @ 27, which I would think would be a major turn-off for women at any age. |
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ramona
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 08:04:04
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The first person I slept with was not my first love, so I don't know what that means for me. I also think the thing about wanting sex to be the same as the first time is kind of crap (no offense, Mel) cause I think it is pretty much universal that the first time is never GREAT for a girl. Well, hardly ever.
Anyway, I wasn't thrilled by the first time, but I still ended up loving sex, so I don't know.
I guess I am not much help in the overall "debate". The first time setting the standard is not true for me though.
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 08:04:17
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OK, right, where to start!?
Malax - I can see your point, and I know where you are coming from. However, as it has been mentioned here, a lot of guys dont go out with women their own age because women their own age are either a) married or b) psycopaths.
I am not in the slightest denying that older guys often think ' fucking hell, shes 18 and wants to fuck me, cant wait to tell my mates'. Im not denying that in even in the most genuine guys it is often an arousing thought the fact that im 18. I know what guys are like. And I know what gets them going in that respect.
However, the fact is that I do not ACT like an 18 year old. Guys that are attracted to girls who actually ACT like little girls...thats when you have to start worrying. In fairness, a lot of the older guys ive been with havent known how old i am til a fair bit later on.
I agree that theres often underlying factors to guys who will consiously TARGET younger girls, and often some mentla problems that need straightening out. but, these problems are often not half as troublesom as an 18 yr olds biys problems.
Girls mature faster than guys - it makes sense. Guys at 28+ are generally on my wavelength. The age I generally go for is 27 - 35. Sometimes swaying a little either side of that. I am staying away from 29/30 yr olds though, as they tend to be going a bit crazy themselves...sorta pre-mid life crisis. And are deliberatly going for younger girls to boost their egos. (trust me, this i have a wealth of experience in)
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 09:32:10
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[quote
j I find that first bit of this post to be very true. For some reason, there is some psychological reason in which women get blasted for being old (especially in the US) whereas men don't - why is that? I never understood it.
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Because then they look old... and how are women valued here... |
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 09:41:59
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Girls mature faster than guys - it makes sense.
Ouch. Look at girls my age. Seriously, they're fucking repulsive. There's a reason I don't have many friends my own age and why I'd never date someone my age. Hell, I'm the youngest person in my class (of 2006)..so they're all 16 or 17..that's not much younger than you and they're disgustingly immature. I think it would be safe to say "smart girls mature faster than normal guys"...but "girls mature faster than guys"..I'm not sure about that.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 09:45:27
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Well, men spurt out their crackerspawn baby making juice in full working order forever and at a certain age we lady folk stop leaking scrambled eggs which allegedly has an effect on our sex drives. And attractiveness, hormonal induced rutting. Appartantly
The women I work with (when they aren't talking about how many stitches they need after childbirth - EUK) Tell me they hit their sexual peak in their forties and untill then sex was crap, but I am not overly sure I believe this.
And why are all these older men and women hunting for toy-fuckery anyway? I'm kind of hoping that when I hit 40 I'll be settled with a perma-fuck (or partner to use politer terms) and not have to lure away little boys.. But even if I'm not I'm not sure toy-fuckery is the way forward
And I always found guys I knew in the 18-20 age bracket to be cock-led-idiots. I think women *as a rule* find the older man attractive because they want to get away from this immature head-fuckery
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 09:51:53
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Tre - Their "I can't help it because of hormones blablabla" is utter bullshit.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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Opaque
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 12:57:54
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quote: Originally posted by Tre
And I always found guys I knew in the 18-20 age bracket to be cock-led-idiots. I think women *as a rule* find the older man attractive because they want to get away from this immature head-fuckery
Oh, the head fuckery. How many times has it happened, and how many times will it happen again? From what I've seen, it does appear that younger women are more inclined to believe a whole lot of BS from older males. Which is sad. When I see that sort of thing going on, it kinda hurts to watch it. Sometimes you just know that she's in love with an ideal versus what is really going on. Everyone pretty much just wants to be loved. And sometimes that desire overrides any semblance of common sense. And how very sad that some would prey upon this inherent human characteristic. I know a lot of folks too that say things like they got married or are dating someone because of their looks. One in particular comes to mind... doesn't matter about actual compatibility/love in his case, just that she has a "nice rack." Or whatever. I guess I think that's messed up.
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chris kennedy
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 14:04:50
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This is a great thread / read. The idea of respect has to come into play when you're involved with someone. Respect for yourself, respect for your mate. Whether you get back the same level you put in is the gamble. If you're involved with someone intimately and they lie to you, disrespect you, fuck you over, even once, thats a dealbreaker. |
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Opaque
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 14:25:16
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quote: Originally posted by chris kennedy
If you're involved with someone intimately and they lie to you, disrespect you, fuck you over, even once, thats a dealbreaker.
Yeah. Some things are really hard to cope with once you've invested so much of your trust. Of course, then there are those times when you don't know them well enough to know what in the heck you are doing and you just screw it all up even when you don't mean to. I suppose we are all inherently flawed. *SIGH* And some days I think I may be more flawed than others. Hey... but at least I like Frank Black! *Dopey Grin* :-}
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 07/07/2004 : 14:43:58
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Can I join you in a dopey grin Opaque?
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