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Helmut
= Cult of Ray =
315 Posts |
 Posted - 06/21/2004 : 18:34:53
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| I heard that after the Pixies split and everyone went their seperate ways, Kim Deal would fax Frank Black's people with Breeders touring schedules, Breeder's album/single reviews (the good ones, I presume), Breeders album sales stats (didn't Last Splash sell like, half a million copies?), and so on. Kinda Kim's way of sticking it up FB. It seems that success was the best revenge after the split since the Breeders became such a MTV/commercial success whereas Frank Black kinda went cult. I heard this story on the internet, by someone who supposedly worked for FB's record company and recieved the faxes. Dunno how valid it is, but there might be something to it. Anyway, they're back together now, so let bygones be bygones. |
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1615 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2004 : 20:00:24
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Everyone knows Pod is 10 times better than Last Splash. Even Title TK is better than Last Splash.
Ummm. What was my point anyway.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2004 : 20:38:32
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faxes or not faxes and record sales apart everyone knows that fb (with or without the catholics) rocks and the breeders kind of suck.
 join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
503 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2004 : 20:50:10
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Originally posted by mun chien andalusia
faxes or not faxes and record sales apart everyone knows that fb (with or without the catholics) rocks and the breeders kind of suck.
join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
now thats just offensive.
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fudd
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/21/2004 : 21:50:19
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| Regardless of who sucks and who doesn't, this story is pretty funny. Are there reliable sources who will back it up? |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 01:17:18
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I can't believe this. I used to believe Kim and Charles weren't fighting after the split. There are some stories through the net about people who have seen Kim in a Frank Black show. And Kim have always said Charles is the most talented man she have ever met. So... this story doesn't seem logical.
 "Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun" |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 01:24:45
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And Pod is cooool!!!!
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun" |
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 01:34:52
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Originally posted by mun chien andalusia
faxes or not faxes and record sales apart everyone knows that fb (with or without the catholics) rocks and the breeders kind of suck.
join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
I agree with that.
I even try to listen to the Breeders, but I can´t.
And Frank Black is always getting better!
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the thing
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
313 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 01:39:54
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The Pixies split up because Kim and Frank didn't get along, why does everyone have such a problem with the possibility that things were acrimonious towards the end? I can well believe the fax story, it funny - and a very Kim thing to do. At the end of the day they've obviously put the past behind them and reformed one of the greatest bands of our generation so who cares, we can just enjoy the stories and gossip.
And the Breeders most decidedly do not suck!
 How does lemur fur, reflect the sea? Someone should do tests |
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Nightsoil
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 02:22:03
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Too right, the Thing!
Stop feeling the need to take sides. It's fucking stupid.
Lou Reed and John Cale both have said dreadful things against
each other but also generous and respectful things!
They also got back together to record "Songs for Drellas."
That's a great precedent, no?
I'm sure Kim and FB both laugh about it.
...It is a great piece of gossip though... |
Edited by - Nightsoil on 06/22/2004 02:25:17 |
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 03:57:46
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depends which label was being faxed, doesn't it... I'm guessing the US? Weren't they both on Warners? or was that the UK where they were both on 4AD?
hmmm |
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 04:55:32
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| i once heard from a friend of mine who is frank black's dog's second cousin in-law, that frank used to throw peas at kim under the table whenever they were eating together near the end of the last tour... (im not sure how accurate this is but i know this fellow really well and he does'nt make up this kinda shit)... apparently he used eat any of the pea's that did'nt make it (so he would know)....... |
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The New Bolero
= Cult of Ray =
394 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 05:14:45
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Originally posted by lonely persuader
i once heard from a friend of mine who is frank black's dog's second cousin in-law, that frank used to throw peas at kim under the table whenever they were eating together near the end of the last tour... (im not sure how accurate this is but i know this fellow really well and he does'nt make up this kinda shit)... apparently he used eat any of the pea's that did'nt make it (so he would know).......
Well put, persuader. |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 06:57:39
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Originally posted by The New Bolero
quote:
Originally posted by lonely persuader
i once heard from a friend of mine who is frank black's dog's second cousin in-law, that frank used to throw peas at kim under the table whenever they were eating together near the end of the last tour... (im not sure how accurate this is but i know this fellow really well and he does'nt make up this kinda shit)... apparently he used eat any of the pea's that did'nt make it (so he would know).......
Well put, persuader.
hmm...I thought it was a yellow lab and cous cous instead of a black dog and peas...my source is my landlords nephew's ex-boyfriend's godfather though. |
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 07:14:41
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| oh daisy girl !! he was'nt a black dog he was frank black's dog and as your "landlords nephew's ex-boyfriend's godfather" goes, i think i know him and he's got alsermirs |
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Helmut
= Cult of Ray =
315 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 16:45:59
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Ok, here's the source and the relevant part for my story. Chinese whispers distorted the "truth" a bit in my version of events, but it still has the same gist:
http://www.timaoutloud.org/archives/000317.html
A funny story about Frank Black (Black Francis' solo career psudeonym) and bassist Kim Deal who later fronted the Breeders. Their break-up on less then friendly terms was saddening because I never thought this would happen. A couple of years later I was walking to dinner with M. Doughty of Soul Coughing just after the release of their first LP (another top 5 of mine) Ruby Vroom. He was talking about how fun it was to get the SoundScan that reports the previous week's LP sales and in what parts of the country etc. Doughty said you want to hear something funny? A person at Warner told me Kim Deal has her weekly Breeders report faxed to Black Francis. Ouch. For those not in the know, a feud between Black Francis and Deal over her dwindling vocal parts and difficulty in getting any of her songs recorded as Pixie tunes was one of the major issues in their breakup. Frank Black's solo album had only sold a few thousand copies and was panned by critics while Deal's recording with the Breeders had sold a few hundred thousands and was at the top of the indie college music charts. Their live shows were drawing audiences as big as the Pixies also. |
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rockmusic84
= Cult of Ray =
USA
256 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 17:33:11
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"Last Splash" went platinum. "Pod" and "Title TK" ARE better than "Last Splash", though. Funny story about the faxes. But no matter what, Frank's music will always be a "hit" in my heart. Chart placings or not.
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Wade
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 21:14:20
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Yeah, and MMMMM-Bop went like quadruple platinum.
Still interesting to hear the in's and out's of what went down. What a tacky and tactless thing to do... |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2004 : 02:49:15
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I like all kim's records
1. Title Tk
2. Pacer
3. Last Splash
4. POD
That's right, I like pod the least
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf" |
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benwin
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 07:36:42
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Kiddies:
Now listen up --- the fax story is a fantasy. Never happened.
It just never happened. And by the way, the break-up of the band had NOTHING to do with who sang what songs. The band would have broken up if Kim had sung half the songs or none of the songs. Singing songs had absolutely nothing to do with it. Got that?
It's interesting to read the speculation about the Pixies past and present; must be very entertaining, but the more entertaining it gets, the more the speculation becomes fantasy. Anyway, you're fun to read, even if you've got it more wrong than right most of the time.
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2004 : 07:52:28
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who cares, its all about the music people !!!! who cares what "sells" or if it's "cult" or if the guy did or did'nt do a un-nice thing once..... and its not really that entertaining either reading it..
his music is however and knowing that there are others (few as they are) who 'get' him and his solo work, makes u feel that your not a complete loser.... |
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fudd
= Cult of Ray =
664 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2004 : 09:14:05
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Damn. Another bubble burst. Space aliens and now this. Pretty soon someone will say there's no such thing as a Sasquatch.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 10:28:05
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Originally posted by mun chien andalusia
faxes or not faxes and record sales apart everyone knows that fb (with or without the catholics) rocks and the breeders kind of suck.
join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
Everyone with very poor judgement yes.
Listen to Nine Black Alps. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 06/24/2004 : 16:27:55
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i once heard from a friend of mine who is frank black's dog's second cousin in-law
Was that the dog who ran from his home? Or the one who was in the sand?
By the way, there IS such a thing as a Sasquatch. But the more successful Loch Ness Monster is constantly faxing him reports of appearances in supermarket tabloids.
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo. |
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Mad Lucas
- FB Fan -
Australia
144 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2004 : 22:20:16
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I always considered Last Splash to be her best work! I think it is a glorious album.
Jesus was a sailor, when we walked upon the water. |
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Mad Lucas
- FB Fan -
Australia
144 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2004 : 22:24:30
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As far as the rumours go, I'm not to sure they're true, but unfortunately i don't personally know Kim of Charles, so I don't really know what they'd do. I sure Kim's insults of Charles' lack of popularity wouldn't really affect him. Many of his interviews show he kinda doesnt like the whole 'popular' thing.
Jesus was a sailor, when we walked upon the water. |
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2004 : 17:18:24
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Pod AND Last Splash are awesome!
"I heard Francis speak one time, he said "hEY!"
www.doog.tk - www.nimrods-son.co.uk
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Black_francis_
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United Kingdom
157 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2004 : 07:46:07
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Originally posted by Mad Lucas
I always considered Last Splash to be her best work! I think it is a glorious album.
Jesus was a sailor, when we walked upon the water.
GLORIOUS album?? haha, i gettit |
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1058 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2004 : 10:01:14
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Originally posted by benwin
Kiddies:
Now listen up --- the fax story is a fantasy. Never happened.
It just never happened. And by the way, the break-up of the band had NOTHING to do with who sang what songs. The band would have broken up if Kim had sung half the songs or none of the songs. Singing songs had absolutely nothing to do with it. Got that?
It's interesting to read the speculation about the Pixies past and present; must be very entertaining, but the more entertaining it gets, the more the speculation becomes fantasy. Anyway, you're fun to read, even if you've got it more wrong than right most of the time.
benwin
And how,pray tell can you say this with such arrogance?Did you know the band personally?If you did then I'll just bugger off and pretend I didn't say anything
"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2004 : 16:10:28
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i heart kim and frank and their collective music. woot!
they got the keys to the city but we got a lotta shakin in our hips! |
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Some (pointless?) gossip on post-Pixies feuding
