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rrrich
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Posted - 06/17/2004 :  00:28:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok so here it is...

back in the day the pixies used to spice up their setlists playing them in alphabetical order, as the tracklisting, etc. now theyre older and more mature, such tricks are too obvious and early 90s. so instead, this concept has been stretched out. the current setlists feature no more than a handful of bossanova and TLM tracks per show. come 2005, this will reverse with them only playing a handful of stuff off come on pilgrim, surferosa and doolittle (the crowd pleasers). in effect it means there are 2 reunion tours- 1 for the early stuff, one for the late.

a few bands have been known to do this (hefner is the only one i can think of offhand tho!)

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Posted - 06/17/2004 :  02:32:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is a glorious and wonderful possibility - I do so hope your right.

Could someone suggest this to the Flaming Lips

Do hefner have that much back catalogue?


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benji
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Posted - 06/17/2004 :  03:08:57  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
or could someone just suggest to flaming lips to stop touring altogether.

but a fascinating thought rich....now if only sigur ros did the same aye....


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Domestiques
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Posted - 06/17/2004 :  10:38:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hefner played 2 nights at camden underworld, 1 night was 2 albums, the other night the other 2 albums. at the time they had four albums out, they have 5 now. The french 1.

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rrrich
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Posted - 06/18/2004 :  00:32:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if sigur ros did it, itd be kinda dull. von is a boring album on the whole and theyve never played that much off it live (hafssol, von, hun jord, myrkur). more agaetis byrjun would be good but ( ) has been played to death since 2001. im more for the unreleased stuff myself, which theres rather a lot of.

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benji
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Posted - 06/18/2004 :  02:23:24  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well yes, that is true, but the new live versions of von and hafssol are 2 of their best songs....
but yeah, () was played to death, but agaetis ain't the easiet record to play live though....

so any news on the new album - i haven't popped over to sigur-ros.co.uk for a while...


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jonathan
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Posted - 06/18/2004 :  03:51:16  Show Profile  Visit jonathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rrrich


(hefner is the only one i can think of offhand tho!)




When did Hefner reform?!? Tell me more (please)! :D

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billgoodman
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Posted - 06/18/2004 :  04:41:33  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think this tour is the 'Greatest Hits'-Tour a.k.a. Give the people what they want...
The next tour will be a tour for more hardcore fans and will have new songs in it and more bossanova and trompe le monde stuff.

just speculation


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rrrich
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Posted - 06/18/2004 :  04:45:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hefner havent reformed-- 2 of them are playing as the french and 1 is solo.

nothing new on the new sigur ros album- 3 tracks have been recorded, a bootleg from 98 surfaced with a new version of hafssol and a new track on it, thats it. theyre apparently gonna tour in autumn...when ill be home. :)

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Posted - 06/18/2004 :  05:17:18  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
a new track from '98 - doesn't that make it an old track........
and is it a transitional version of hafssol or totally different.

and also, has the mono album been released in countries apart from Japan yet?


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Domestiques
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Posted - 06/18/2004 :  23:54:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rrrich

hefner havent reformed-- 2 of them are playing as the french and 1 is solo.

nothing new on the new sigur ros album- 3 tracks have been recorded, a bootleg from 98 surfaced with a new version of hafssol and a new track on it, thats it. theyre apparently gonna tour in autumn...when ill be home. :)

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Ahem two of them are solo,

Darren and John perform under the name of the french, ant as ever performs under the name of Ant and Jack Hayter also performs solo, although Jack tends to concentrate his work at small poetry gigs and the like, he released an album last year I think.

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NimrodsSon
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Posted - 06/19/2004 :  12:22:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope to God they aren't still together in 2005!


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whoreatthedoor
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Spain
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  03:56:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon

I hope to God they aren't still together in 2005!


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EEHH!!! You'd got your Catholic period, now it's Pixies Era!!!

Only joking. But I want a Bossanova & TLM tour!!!


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fudd
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  07:30:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
People who read that OTHER board can skip.

It's been suggested that they don't play much from the later releases because it reminds them of less happy times. Here is an alternate theory. The following are paraphrases, but close enough.

Joey to guy who held up signs for his favorite songs: "So you're the guy who keeps asking us for songs we don't fucking remember!"

Kim: "Rehearsing was a little awkward at first, but then it became very comfortable. It all came back kind of like muscle memory."

So the earlier songs were burned into their memories through repetition. The later songs weren't played as many times all those years ago, so they don't remember them.
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whoreatthedoor
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  07:44:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So... Relearn it!!!

I've read somewhere that Frank fave albums were Trompe and Bossanova.


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VoVat
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  12:30:36  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
EEHH!!! You'd got your Catholic period, now it's Pixies Era!!!


They should all play together, as the Catholic Pixies! (Catholixies? Pixolics?)



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fudd
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  13:12:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dream show: Martinis, Breeders, Catholics, Pixies, with David's magic show between acts. (Did someone say this already?)
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TheCroutonFuton
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USA
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  13:13:20  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hmm...I'm about to rant (as usual).

I think the reason they aren't playing any of their later stuff is because of the press. Think about it.

Those of you who have the DVD or have seen the "Gouge Documentary"...They bash Bossanova and Trompe le Monde. Fuck Thom Yorke. Fuck music critics. Frank even says something along the lines of, "I don't regret writing the songs...but I do regret not re-writing them...hahaha..." I think they're afraid the media will shun them if they play their later work. Hell, Thom fucking Yorke goes on and on about how brilliant U-Mass is and that's one of the ONLY songs off of Trompe that they play. It's ridiculous. I say it's all the press. Fuck them.

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the thing
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  13:30:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
or could someone just suggest to flaming lips to stop touring altogether.


Glad to see I'm not the only one to think this - I mean how many times can you tour 1 album?


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VoVat
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  14:15:14  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
I think the reason they aren't playing any of their later stuff is because of the press.


That's possible. Maybe they think the earlier material will be better received because of stuff like that. On the other hand, when has Frank ever listened to the music critics? And didn't he once say Bossanova was his favorite album?

Of course, most of the Pixies songs that Frank played with the Catholics were from Doolittle or before.



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NimrodsSon
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  15:23:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just want to see them play Motorway to Roswell on either Oct. 13th or 14th and I'll die happy.


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rrrich
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Japan
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  17:19:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benji

a new track from '98 - doesn't that make it an old track........
and is it a transitional version of hafssol or totally different.

and also, has the mono album been released in countries apart from Japan yet?


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erm yeh, it's a new found version of an old track that is old...hehe. the new mono album should be out pretty darn soon in blighty. its not out til september in the states tho.

anyhoo, re. not playing TLM and bossanova. if they arent playing stuff off the last 2 albums for fear of reprisals from the press, then surely thatd come down to commercial fears. bad press may make for poor ticket sales. the tour may be about cashing in, but i hope they wouldnt be so under-the-thumb as to play crowd pleasers just to sell more stuff. saying that, if the tour really had a decent amount of credibility, surely they wouldnt be supporting the rhcp and the stereophonics. :/

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whoreatthedoor
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Spain
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  23:48:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At least in my country, press is saying nothing about them. You have to be in a subbacultcha to know about what are they playing. In my opinion, people will go to the shows if they only play some Latvian lullabies.


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whoreatthedoor
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Posted - 06/20/2004 :  23:49:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat

quote:
EEHH!!! You'd got your Catholic period, now it's Pixies Era!!!


They should all play together, as the Catholic Pixies! (Catholixies? Pixolics?)



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This sound extremely cool!!!


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Wade
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Posted - 06/22/2004 :  22:03:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm guessing they are doing what most people would do, trying to do the job, get along, and not to disappoint folks whilst playing the songs they know and enjoy.
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