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smashmachine
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28 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2004 :  12:56:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, guitar solos may not be the main reason why you listen to Frank Blac k, but there still exists some mind blowers that fit nicely a couple songs. For me, I can rock out to I Need Peace pretty thoroughly, I like it more than Solid Gold's solo. Anybody got any to add?

BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 05/29/2004 :  17:54:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nothing against Rich or Dave, but I'll probably always feel Lyle was the best fit for lead guitar in the C's (so it's fitting you named two songs off the first album). Try turning the balance knob on your stereo all the way to Lyle's side and listen from All My Ghosts through to The Man Who Was Too Loud. Awesome.
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rockmusic84
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USA
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Posted - 05/29/2004 :  19:08:18  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, Lyle's solos kick ass. "Men In Black", and pretty much the entire first Catholics album.
Rich and Dave are awesome, but I don't know who's playing what. The album notes never specify what channel either of them are in. With that being said, I love the slide parts (most of them are probably by Rich), and the solo in "Massif Centrale" blows me away (probably Joey).

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ProverbialCereal
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USA
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Posted - 05/29/2004 :  20:57:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lyle. Awesome. I like Dave and Rich, but there is something about the workman's solos that gives me goose bumps. I love the way he bends certain strings, and blends certain notes. Some people think he is too showy, but they are smoking crack.


Just quit a cult / going through withdrawal
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IceCream
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USA
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Posted - 05/29/2004 :  21:04:17  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I LOVE "Thalassocracy" and "Calistan" solos, but they're, of course, not with the Catholics.
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ProverbialCereal
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USA
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Posted - 05/29/2004 :  23:08:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doesn't matter. It's still Frank Blackity!


Just quit a cult / going through withdrawal
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smashmachine
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28 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2004 :  23:23:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i like what i'm hearing, heres some others i like

out of state - my fav song on devil's workshop, but it ends the song nicely, its a great song, and one of frank's best vocals

st francis dam disaster- ok, its not the longest, but i like how it ends the song, becuase the song keeps building to that point, you just get this image of water wiping out towns (esepcially for me, im from johnstown,pa if you know what thats about).

1826-you know what, i dont think a lot may like this song, but when driving home 2 am from college, hopped up on cafenine pills, speeding down the highway, the song starts to sound real good, im rocking out pretty hard by the end

anybody else care to share?
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 05/30/2004 :  00:34:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't smoke crack.

We got the best singer and the best guitarists

We're fortunate
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2004 :  06:17:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who plays the guitar bit between the verses of 'Hostess with the Mostest'? Lyle?
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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 05/30/2004 :  07:42:58  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm more of a Rich Gilbert person myself
I find Lyle's solo's on Cult of Ray almost irritating

my faves are Tiny Heart and I love your brain solo's


"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf"
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Fissionignition
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USA
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Posted - 05/30/2004 :  11:28:57  Show Profile  Visit Fissionignition's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Lyle Workman's solo at the end of "Jesus Was Right" is simply phenomenal.
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/30/2004 :  11:53:33  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Same here Bill, Rich Gilbert! Marvellous.
I think he's great. A really nice guy too.
Not that Lyle or Dave are not, I just like Rich the most. I do like Dave's pink floral Telecaster though.


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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/30/2004 :  13:50:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joey plays some guitar on 'Hostess', but Lyle might do too...

"Me and the chickens running in the street"
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smashmachine
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Posted - 05/30/2004 :  17:01:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I cant believe I forgot about this one - So Hard to Make Things Out, which follows up Billy Radcliffe on Pistolero, this is so badass, a true mind blower
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chickenwithtwoheads
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Netherlands
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Posted - 05/30/2004 :  18:16:35  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Dave Phillips!!!

He's the one with the melody I prefer.
It's slower than Rich, which I like, fits in the more melancholic songs from the last four albums.
It's not as 'cold' as Lyle. Don't know how to explain that, but to me Dave is the right person for the music CT makes for the last few years.

-How you went so far
I might be wrong, but as I recall from the last FB and the C's gig he played the How you went so far-solo. All these tiny solos have so much melody in it, it's a pity I can't figure them out on my guitar.

Other solos:

-Solid gold
No explanation neccesary

-I've seen your picture

-Coastline
The solo after the first chorus is just so 'right', adds an extra 'atmosphere' to the song. Am I making this clear? guess not



I'm bored with the valleys and bored by the peaks. So I bought a ticket to the freaks
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Avid-Fan
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Posted - 05/31/2004 :  02:12:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"All My Ghosts" & "Back to Rome" [two of the best]
"Out of State" [v.nice]
the coda of "Can I Get a Witness" [v.sweet]


(( I talk plain talk ))
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Leah
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
314 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2004 :  08:27:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First love in terms of guitar sounds = I will run to you.

10%er ALWAYS gives me an extra burst of energy too!

Opening strains of Manitoba too...

I mean, that's the point of a great solo, right?


Every choice human being strives instinctively for a citadel and a secrecy where he is saved from the crowd -
Nietzsche

Edited by - Leah on 05/31/2004 08:29:14
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IceCream
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USA
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Posted - 05/31/2004 :  10:02:08  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree with Avid-Fan; "Out of State" is very nice.

There are some great guitar solos during the "Los Angeles" of the Nadine LIVE EP which I like very much and consider superior to the studio version (on the other hand, the studio version is longer and has more contrast between the parts; not to mention all those fantastic keyboards).

"1826" has some nice solos as well.
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *

Uzbekistan
1013 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2004 :  10:42:19  Show Profile  Visit Steak n Sabre's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"Solid Gold" really kicks it for me, as well as Workman doing the Townshend stuff on "Announcement", awesome tone!


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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 06/01/2004 :  10:46:15  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Whatever you make of the playing, you'll have to agree that Rich Gilbert is the actual coolest person in the world. No doubt about it.

Far more so than Isaac Newton.


"Everywhere I go I want to travel by Maglev"
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Spartacus
- FB Fan -

Australia
84 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2004 :  21:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The solo at the end of 'This Old Heartache' is awesome.
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ProverbialCereal
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USA
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Posted - 06/01/2004 :  22:02:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually I didn't know if it was definite that Lyle Workman plays on Announcement.


Just quit a cult / going through withdrawal
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *

Uzbekistan
1013 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  12:17:08  Show Profile  Visit Steak n Sabre's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal

Actually I didn't know if it was definite that Lyle Workman plays on Announcement.


Just quit a cult / going through withdrawal



Lyle and FB are the only guitarists listed on Oddballs. To me it sounds like Lyle, was there a special uncredited guest??


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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06/02/2004 :  13:24:50  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
maybe frank plays on announcement
there's only one guitar on it
I guess it's lyle though


"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf"
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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =

Netherlands
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Posted - 06/02/2004 :  14:48:26  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Could be The man himself, the 'solo' sounds a little Caribouish to me

Oh well, whatever


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WolfManMikeLonely
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USA
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Posted - 06/02/2004 :  22:39:47  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The solo that sticks out to me the most is the amazing Rob Quine type lead stuff on "How You Went So Far" the first break especially gives me goosebumps. Could have to do with the fact that I think Rob Quine is best lead guitarist ever and this seems to be like the best solo that he could have come up with but didn't.

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VoVat
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USA
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Posted - 06/03/2004 :  15:04:12  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Is that the same Rob Quine who played on a few TMBG songs?



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FrankfanL
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USA
98 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2004 :  12:48:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Last Stand of Shazeb Andleeb. Can't get enough of that Lyle. Although I have great respect and admiration for all former and present guitarists selected by Frank, I find Lyle to be by far the most satisfying lead player for Frank's material. I also agree with Spartacus regarding the lead solo for "This Old Heartache". That one gives me goosebumps !!!!!
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BillyRadcliffe
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USA
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Posted - 06/04/2004 :  17:38:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My favorite guitar leads are Lyle's on Steak N Sabre. That one's a definite for panning to the right channel. I'm also partial to the lead work on The Scene (to me, that one sounds like Workman, too).
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junkmale
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Posted - 06/05/2004 :  02:48:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like Lyle and Rich Gilbert's solos, but since the last tour I am more and more enamoured with Dave Phillips' playing. At teh Shepherds Bush gig it was Dave that really stood out. The solo on New House of the Pope is amazing.





I need peace... turned up so loud
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junkmale
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79 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2004 :  02:52:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by VoVat

Is that the same Rob Quine who played on a few TMBG songs?

Yeah, it is. Quine is a interesting guy. He began in Richard Hell's band in the seventies and did a couple of Lou Reed albums and lodds of other stuff. He has a really angular style. A bit like Rich Gilbert.

In the sixties he was a Velvet Underground fanatic and bootlegged many of their shows. Some of them have recently been officialy released as the Bootleg Series




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usedtobenavajo
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USA
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Posted - 06/05/2004 :  12:17:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really like the solo off of "Nadine." Who does that solo? Is that joey?

So Im headed for the stereo store, to buy a white noise maker, and turn it up to ten.
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 06/05/2004 :  20:21:08  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah what junkmale said, that's the guy. What TMBG songs does he play on, I'd like to hear them. Almost every solo he has on Richard Hell and the Voidoids Blank Generation is amazing.

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VoVat
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USA
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Posted - 06/05/2004 :  23:00:09  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I just checked the John Henry liner notes, and Quine apparently plays the guitar solos in "Sleeping In The Flowers" and "No One Knows My Plan."



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WolfManMikeLonely
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USA
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Posted - 06/06/2004 :  10:10:25  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Cool, thanks.

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VoVat
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USA
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Posted - 06/06/2004 :  11:20:50  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You're welcome.



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