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the thing
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
313 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2004 :  03:41:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have always thought that FB has far more presence and outright coolness than Black Francis

But then was Black Francis cooler for not being cool, not having presence and yet making a sound like a banshee's orgasm?

My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free

Peter Walker
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
189 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2004 :  04:11:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't know how to break it to you, but.....

It's the same man.

Don't tell anyone!

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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7442 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2004 :  04:49:02  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah right, and Santa Claus doesn't exist... Do you expect us to believe you, Peter Walker?


Denis
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Peter Walker
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
189 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2004 :  04:51:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hang on, let me just consult the Easter Bunny....
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the thing
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
313 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2004 :  06:02:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah - that explains why you never see them in the same room at the same time....


My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2004 :  17:41:08  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think Black Franics is the Tooth Fairy!



Cattle in Korea / They can really moo.
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2004 :  18:02:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Black Francis was more swaggering and made for excellent magazine quotes (coolest rock name ever too). Frank is of course cool in his surly, grizzly, dancing bear kind of way too.


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"Nothing to do about it..."
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2004 :  08:26:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by the thing

Ah - that explains why you never see them in the same room at the same time....


My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free



He is the Tyler Durden of Rock.


"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun"
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TameReg
- FB Fan -

USA
110 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2004 :  21:09:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always thought Black Francis was a pretty cool name too. When he first changed it to Frank Black I thought "Oh no. Why change your name?" But needless to say I'm pretty used to Frank Black by this point. And obviously, the name is secondary to the music.
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the thing
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
313 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2004 :  01:49:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the name was one of the things that first attracted me to the Pixies - "Black Francis" mysterious, dark, spanish - you can almost imagine writing Come On Pilgrim then thinking - darn -now I'd better change my name - no-one called Charles could write anything this messed up...

My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2004 :  07:59:44  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
When I first heard the name Black Francis, I sort of wondered whether it was a reference to Black Peter, the traditional companion of Santa Claus in some cultures.



Cattle in Korea / They can really moo.
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2004 :  08:33:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Black Francis sounds like an evil monk. You don't get much cooler than that.


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"Nothing to do about it..."
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1340 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2004 :  10:26:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I first saw it I imagined he was black.



I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.

*Adapted By Carolynanna*
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2004 :  13:32:40  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
So then he's the Black Francis, as opposed to the White Francis?



Cattle in Korea / They can really moo.
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2004 :  13:58:54  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
or yellow/orange francis.

Her life was saved by Rock & Roll.
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2004 :  17:24:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As Black Francis, he seemed more innocent about it all, like he was enjoying the ride of being in one of the coolest bands around. Back in the 90's, it was refreshing to see somebody with such talent look like they were enjoying themselves rather than playing the moody/mysterious (stupid) rock star. That was one of the things I like about him then.

VERDICT: COOL DUDE

As Frank Black, well the man is just awesome. Black Francis was always destined to evolve into him.
Black though now seems more cynical about the whole thing, He's seen and been through alot. And it shows.
His interviews never fail to raise a smile. Journalists beware. The dog bites.
And his music speaks for itself under the name 'Frank Black'

VERDICT: THE MAN.
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2004 :  17:37:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have to disagree with you on this one. In fact, I think Black Francis was the definition of moody/mysterious rock star. Not rock star in the snorting-coke-off-a-hooker way, but definitely a cocky guy who knew he was a genius and didn't take crap from anyone, band members included.

Frank Black seems like a much more mellow dude. He rolls with the punches, and I think he's probably enjoying himself now more than he was the first time around.

The yellow/orange debate rages on more than seven months later. We need to ask Frank about that in the next chat.


"I joined the Cult of Frank/I mean it's not like I'm an Arab and Kim's an Israeli.
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2004 :  17:48:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was thinking about the interviews I've seen with Black Francis. I was expecting him to be pretty moody and stuff, but was quite surprised how smiley and talkative he was. That's what i meant by innocence. Oh yeah he was totally confident which could be perceived as cockiness, his music backed up his balls. I agree, Genius too.

I think Frank knows he had an amazing band back then and the songs were killer, but knows too they never really got what they deserved. Music Industry people don't seem to give him enough respect as Frank Black, definately his music. Because of this, and some answers of his I've read to questions, I think he's now more "whatever!". I'll make my music for me and if you like it. Fine.
youy're right, that is mellow. And content. But deep down, maybe inside, a big Fuck You is reserved for the chosen few.

Edited by - frank black conspiracy on 11/30/2004 17:50:25
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the thing
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
313 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2004 :  23:34:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
geez - who dragged this out of the basement...


Forget the cults I got me a whole church!
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2004 :  11:18:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was I

I wanted to talk FB so I went looking for it in the archives. I liked the thread.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2004 :  15:58:04  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hope there wasn't any radon down there.



"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2004 :  16:56:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No.

Few cigarette butts, crusty old porn mag, half a mouldy cheese sandwich that's all.
Oh, a sock and a "heavily played" Elton John record. Somebody here not telling us something?
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the thing
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
313 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2004 :  04:20:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm secretly flattered that one of my crusty old topics has once again seen the light of day.




Forget the cults I got me a whole church!
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2004 :  15:14:30  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hey, if you scrape the crust off, it's as good as new.



"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2004 :  15:47:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat

Hey, if you scrape the crust off, it's as good as new.




I manged to use up all the fag butts and put em in a one sheet. Smokes on me!

I'm thinking about taking a stroll back down there laters and checking out what's behind the General Chat section. I'll let you know what I find.

Oh, and I left the cheese sarnie, just in case anyones hungry.
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