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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 05/18/2004 :  01:37:18  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
What is it about that sound I can't get? Where is My Mind, Bullet, etc etc.. I can't seem to get that "jingly jangly" sound...

I am on an acoustic, I guess it has something to do with the fact that he has an amp? When I play it, it sounds too "bassy" and just doesn't have that Frank sound...

I was playing Where is My Mind with power chords, then i tried using Barre chords instead so i could get those higher notes in, but it still sounds too Bassy...

argghhhh i want it to sound right! Especially the the last chord in "WIMM".. it sounds so cool when frank plays it and I just cant match it..

GRR,, help?

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ivebeentired
- FB Fan -

USA
66 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2004 :  07:06:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spunXtain

What is it about that sound I can't get? Where is My Mind, Bullet, etc etc.. I can't seem to get that "jingly jangly" sound...

I am on an acoustic, I guess it has something to do with the fact that he has an amp? When I play it, it sounds too "bassy" and just doesn't have that Frank sound...

I was playing Where is My Mind with power chords, then i tried using Barre chords instead so i could get those higher notes in, but it still sounds too Bassy...

argghhhh i want it to sound right! Especially the the last chord in "WIMM".. it sounds so cool when frank plays it and I just cant match it..

GRR,, help?

Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted..



what kind of guitar do you have? i have an old yamaha from the 60s or 70s. it cant get those high type of pitches either. but if you play an acousitc electric you could get the sound easily. or get new strings, older the strings flatter the sound. if it doesnt already have it, just mess around witht the mids and the treble. hope that helps.

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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2004 :  09:40:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah, i have also wanted to get that sound before, it's quite annoying. and yeah, older strings sound flatter, try new ones.
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 05/19/2004 :  23:04:17  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i just have a little Epiphone acoustic. it has new strings so thats not it.

i guess its just an electric/acoustic thing.

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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 05/20/2004 :  05:50:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
try using a thin pick too. i think a lot of that "jingly jangly" sound is just the sound of the pick. infact, sometimes its hard to distinguish between chords because most of what you hear is just the pick!
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bumblebeeboy2
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/20/2004 :  06:39:22  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

try using a thin pick too. i think a lot of that "jingly jangly" sound is just the sound of the pick. infact, sometimes its hard to distinguish between chords because most of what you hear is just the pick!



according to the gouge documentary they used metal picks... anyone tried that? does that add too the effect? i'm considering picking myself up some, to experiment...


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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 05/20/2004 :  07:18:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I presumed that was mostly joey really, to create all those sounds and stuff. my friend uses coins as picks, lol.
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/20/2004 :  07:30:56  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

I presumed that was mostly joey really, to create all those sounds and stuff. my friend uses coins as picks, lol.



haha, is that how they play in the ghettos? keep it real.

maybe it was. i'm not sure how they/he gets that sound then.


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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 05/20/2004 :  08:45:16  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Metal picks? Coins?

Horrible, horrible ideas...both. Can you say "wear down your strings"? Also, I advise anyone who has an energetic strumming style to STEER clear of metal picks. Unless you want your pickguard to look an abstract art piece.

Coins...probably the WORST makeshift pick you could use! In a bind, I find that breaking off the corner of a cassette-tape case work pretty well. So does cutting a pick-shaped device out of an old credit card (this one has served me well, remember it next time you are desparate for a pick and can't seem to find one. But make sure you don't need the credit card afterwards!)

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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 05/20/2004 :  10:55:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i know man, everything about my friend and his musical ability and attitude makes me want to cry. HONESTLY.
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the man who is too loud
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Posted - 05/21/2004 :  05:49:57  Show Profile  Click to see the man who is too loud's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
frank uses an orange dunlop pick. I've got one he used at a show here but I can't read the numbers anymore. It's interesting how the pick became after he played with it, I'm trying to do the same now.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 05/21/2004 :  07:36:57  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tortex 60


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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
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Posted - 05/21/2004 :  12:23:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i got one a few of those after hearing he used them, and a couple of yellow ones too. is it normal for the entire logo to rub off after not much heavy use, or am i just a sweaty teenager??
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/07/2004 :  06:51:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frank says in an interview somewhere that he and Kim used orange dunlop picks, and sometimes green ones.

"Me and the chickens running in the street"
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2004 :  11:31:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy

Frank says in an interview somewhere that he and Kim used orange dunlop picks, and sometimes green ones.

"Me and the chickens running in the street"


I have a broken orange Dunlop pick from FB from the DITS tour.

I know that Steve Albini had them use metal picks for Sufer Rosa and I'm pretty sure that FB uses thin to medium picks.

Thin picks are great for strumming an acoustic. Such a different fuller sound then using a heavy pick. A heavy pick is good for an electric or lead work.

But that's just me ...

Edited by - mrgrieves1971 on 06/07/2004 11:32:15
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