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Marc With A C
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Posted - 04/28/2004 :  18:41:51  Show Profile  Visit Marc With A C's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Now that I've finally tracked down all of FB's solo releases...

With so many people always wondering which album to start with, or which album to pick up next, one would think, (especially with the wealth of material that's out there), that Frank would certainly warrant a 'best-of' compilation by now.

Trouble is, how would you narrow down what to put on it? I mean, would you just stick to the commercially released singles? Or would you do a fan-poll to compile the overall favorites?

With so much great material, it was hard to even make a *two-disc* best-of disc set to carry for my own usage in the car.

In the evening I want my coffee, in the morning I want my dope... www.marcwithac.com

kingphilbert
= Cult of Ray =

USA
356 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  19:24:16  Show Profile  Visit kingphilbert's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I tried to make a mix for a friend and my brother and there was no way it could have been 1 disc. I too struggled to make it two discs. Of course it ends up being all my favs.

disc 1:
los angeles (live)
(what ever happened to) pong
thalassocracy
handy man
bad harmony
all my ghosts
constant sorrow man
velvety
men in black
odd ball
pan american highway
everything is new
hang on to your ego
do you feel bad about it
sunny sunday mill valley groove day
st. francis dam disaster
Chip away boy
his kingly cave
village of the sun
calsitan
you aint me
i gotta move
bullet
modern age

disc 2
valentine and garuda
horrible day
massif centrale
billy radcliffe
hermaphroditos (live)
end of miles
brackish boy
six sixty six
when will happiness find me again
goodbye lorraine
pray for the girls
whiskey in your shoes
this old heartache
humboldt county massacre
jumping beans
if it takes all night
parry the wind high, low
coastline
man of steel
whispering weeds
bad, wicked world
jane the queen of love (live)
gouge away (live)
pie in the sky



"I mix twinkie's and ding-dong's all the time. In Europe, they call it a Dinkie!"

Edited by - kingphilbert on 04/28/2004 19:27:57
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  20:40:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow, philbert. that's a really excellent tracklisting. When I was burning a best of myself I stupidly only made it one disc, which is just impossible, what with nine albums, soon to be three b-sides collection, and various live stuff. I might just throw away my old disc and copy what you did.
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  11:05:21  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I tried making a Best Of and narrowed it down to around 40 tracks. In the end I just made a 20 track Best Of for one for my friends who liked FB but didnt have any of his stuff. It was to hard to chose stuff and leave other stuff out for myself to listen to, so I did it with someone else in mind. Some day I will get round to putting together a double disc. Most of my live stuff is on Live in Paris vinyl so I have to convert that somehow.

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  12:23:20  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The one CD best-of is not only impossible, but you risk severe distress and distraughtness.

I made one the other day of Pixies stuff, which is a FAR more limited catalogue and still could barely do it. It took over an hour and I ended up having to overburn the 80 minute CD by a minute or so. :)


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  12:51:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Frank Black best-of CD is a 10-disc set--all of his albums!!


ˇViva los Católicos!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  13:01:12  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Exactly. Exactly.


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kingphilbert
= Cult of Ray =

USA
356 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  13:47:35  Show Profile  Visit kingphilbert's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I can get a Pixies best of onto one disc. That's enough for someone not too familiar with them. I could never cut the Frank one down to one disc. Unless it was for my dad. I would give him majority Catholics era songs and keep it to the very western sounding ones. I feel bad that I had to leave stuff off of the two disc set I had made.

"I mix twinkie's and ding-dong's all the time. In Europe, they call it a Dinkie!"
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  14:01:31  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What songs do you cut off a Pixies best-of?


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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  15:51:15  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon

My Frank Black best-of CD is a 10-disc set--all of his albums!!


ˇViva los Católicos!


I was thinking that when I wrote my first post, why bother?. But I also like juxtaposing songs from different era's in his music history, it's sort of cool listening to stuff off TOTY next to BLD, and listening to his scope and range of lyrics and musical styles.

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chick
- FB Fan -

Canada
118 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  15:57:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with ya therewererumors. He was into field hockey players
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  16:00:13  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
One song missing from that list is
Fiddle Riddle
Love that song.

That weren't no D.J. that was hazy cosmic jive.
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papa_ernesto
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
35 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  16:10:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I need peace...
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  16:13:55  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They were only rumours Chick...........

quote:
Originally posted by Coldheartofstone

One song missing from that list is
Fiddle Riddle
Love that song.

That weren't no D.J. that was hazy cosmic jive.



Followed up by Amnesia, as part of his important Ska period

He's coming to save your mind and town

Edited by - therewererumours on 04/29/2004 16:19:58
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  17:28:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I could easily come up with a 12-15 song Frank 'Best of'. 12-15 songs is the ideal length, I think. More than that is probably overkill if you're wanting to introduce music to most people. Leaving some great songs off is a good thing. The listener will find them when they get into the albums.
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  18:02:35  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
True.

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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =

USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  20:29:50  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Los Angeles
Places Named After Numbers
Living On Soul
Ten Percenter
Czar
Old Black Dawning
Adventure and the Resolution
Kicked in the Taco
Angst
San Antonio, TX
I Want To Live On An Abstract Plain
His Kingly Cave
The Snake
Parry the Wind High, Low
Parry the Wind High, Low (Reprise)
Two Reelers
Thalassocracy
Robert Onion
The Marsist
I'll Be Blue
The Scene
Men In Black
Solid Gold
All My Ghosts

So many great tunes....and I didn't even use any BLD songs.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2004 :  13:26:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where's Western Star on all these lists? That's definitely one of his best songs ever IMO.


ˇViva los Católicos!
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AndrewBH
- FB Fan -

1 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2004 :  16:22:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And what about California Bound? There are some cracking tracks listed there but this song must be included! It must! Having said that it's impossible to select just 20 or so tracks. Thank heavens for mp3 and MD.
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =

USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2004 :  19:00:14  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's exactly my point. Looking at the list today, I'm all "Now How Could I forget California Bound?"
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kingphilbert
= Cult of Ray =

USA
356 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  08:46:00  Show Profile  Visit kingphilbert's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There's just too many. Even in my 2 disc I obviously had to make exceptions and deletions. Some good stuff made it some good stuff didn't. I don't even think I included Headache because it was already heavy on th first two albums. When I make a mix I look at all the albums, average how many song from each album per cdr (25 tracks) and then I start to arrange. With 10 cds like Frank, it was averaged out to 2-3 songs from each cd per cdr. Then you make cuts.

"I mix twinkie's and ding-dong's all the time. In Europe, they call it a Dinkie!"
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  09:37:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AndrewBH

And what about California Bound? There are some cracking tracks listed there but this song must be included! It must! Having said that it's impossible to select just 20 or so tracks. Thank heavens for mp3 and MD.



True


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  09:44:57  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow, IceCream, my best-of would be almost completely different! Of your whole list, I might only take the following:

Los Angeles, Abstract Plain, Places Named After Numbers, Robert Onion, Men In Black, All My Ghosts, and maybe Parry the Wind.

Not to say the others aren't awesome, but I think I'd have different tracks. Angst, for example, never struck me as a song that someone HAS to hear of FB's. I'd be more likely to give them Speedy Marie, End of Miles, Massif Centrale, So. Bay, Bullet (I cannot believe you don't have Bullet on there!), ...


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kingphilbert
= Cult of Ray =

USA
356 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  12:21:29  Show Profile  Visit kingphilbert's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Even I only have 6 of IceCream's selections on my Two Disc. Los Angeles, His Kingly Cave, Parry the Wind High, Low, Thalassocracy, Men In Black and All My Ghosts. Just goes to show you that different fans like different material. Mine is not Cult heavy or Pistolero heavy. Those two may have the least of all tracks on my comp. I would still never try and cram them onto one disc though unles requested by the recipient.

"I mix twinkie's and ding-dong's all the time. In Europe, they call it a Dinkie!"

Edited by - kingphilbert on 05/03/2004 12:22:18
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2004 :  13:46:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay. to make it easy on myself I'll choose three, yes, only three tracks from each album:

Los Angeles
Hang On To Your Ego
Parry The Wind High, Low
Whatever Happened To Pong?
Headache
Fiddle Riddle
Men In Black
Kicked In The Taco
The Adventure And Resolution
All My Ghosts
I Need Peace
The Man Who Was Too Loud
Billy Radcliffe
So Hard To Make Things Out
So. Bay
St. Francis Dam Disaster
Stupid Me
If It Takes All Night
The Farewell Bend
I Will Run After You
Whispering Weeds
His Kingly Cave
San Antonio Tx
The Scene
Jaina Blues
Horrible Day
Massif Central

without listing all of Franks songs, here are the ones I found extremely difficult to leave out:

Don't Ya Rile Em
Ten Percenter
Abstract Plain
Freedom Rock
Two Reelers
Big Red
The Cult Of Ray
The Marsist
I Gotta Move
85 Weeks
I Want Rock And Roll
Blast Off
Dog In The Sand
True Blue
Everything Is New
The Snake
Coastline

and i know both lists will change on listening to my FB collection religiouly like I do.
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2004 :  14:03:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and also....Adda Lee!!
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2004 :  14:14:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope. That's your list

=)
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Aurora-borealis
- FB Fan -

Denmark
131 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2004 :  16:24:22  Show Profile  Click to see Aurora-borealis's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream

Parry the Wind High, Low
Parry the Wind High, Low (Reprise)



What's the difference between 'em?
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skeleton man1
- FB Fan -

30 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2004 :  17:57:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok 3 top songs each album
1.Los Angeles
2.Czar
3.Don't Ya Rile Em
4.Calistan
5.Headache
6.Superabound
7.Men In Black
8.I Don't Want To Hurt You Every Single Time
9.The Last Stand Of Shazeb Andleeb
10.All My Ghosts
11.Six-Sixty-Six
12.The Man Who Was To Loud
13.Bad Harmony
14.Billy Radcliffe
15.Skeleton Man
16.Blast Off
17.Bullet
18.If It Takes All Night
19.Pray A Little Faster
20.Oddball
21.Just A Little
22.California Bound
23.End Of Miles
24.21 Reasons
25.Velvety
26.San Antonio,TX
27.Whiskey In Your Shoes
28.Everything Is New
29.Horrible Day
30.Coastline
31.My Life Is In Storage
32.Where The Wind Is Going
33.Strange Goodbye

hell i've heard honeycomb i will include it
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Brackish Heart
- FB Fan -

Australia
176 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2004 :  01:15:14  Show Profile  Visit Brackish Heart's Homepage  Click to see Brackish Heart's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
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Posted - 12/30/2004 : 13:46:22 Frank Black Conspiracy

This is the second thread ive noticed it on (ie thought i remembered that title a long time ago....) gee your dusting off the cobwebs aren't you dude...
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2004 :  04:05:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey Brackish Heart, Yeah when the FB chat kinda gets low on topics (bet nearly everything that could be a thread has been written, long time before my existance) I like to search the archives. There's some relevant questions and facts that need answered and responded to. This is Franks official site (forget the unofficial bit, we all know the truth).

I think the FB section will explode again once Honeycomb is released and toured, I do understand the lack of new threads has something to do with the Pixies reunion. Understandably. It's a major event in mine and Frank Blacks life.

Plus I don't like to see good threads die.
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