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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04/27/2004 : 12:34:57
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Bands rarely re-record old studio material and if they do the result is usually a poor relation to the original. 'Don't stand so close to me' by The Police being a classic example. However there are one or two albums that I own that I wish the bands would re-record. My example is 'The Real Thing' by Faith No More. It was the first Mike Patton fronted release by the band. The music is great but for some reason Mike Patton decided to go with a squeaky voice effect which drives me mad every time I listen to the record. The first Mr Bungle album was released at about the same time but he'd obviously stopped inhaling helium for that recording. All post Real Thing recordings were superbly sung by Patton. Faith No More will probably never reform (saying that who knows these days) but even if they did I can't see them re-recording old material.
Any other examples + reasons why the album should be re-recorded?
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 13:12:20
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I wonder how Nevermind would sound if they got it to sound less produced. I remember seeing an alternate (earlier I guess) version of the In Bloom video, and the song is much more, 'Surfer Rosa/Bleach', shall we say. I wouldn't mind hearing the whole album like it. If Courtney's ever strapped for cash, and reads this thread...oh! Perhaps....
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 13:17:33
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Off topic but kinda still on...
Someone told me the other day that Courtney Love had sung for an earlier version of Faith No More (I don't think it was called Faith No More but it was everyone but Mike). Weeeeird! |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 13:27:54
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I agree with Tom about Nevermind. Would be interesting to hear.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!! |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2004 : 13:29:18
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I agree with Tom about Nevermind. Would be interesting to hear.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!! |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 15:26:21
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I'd still love to hear the original Steve Albini mix of In Utero, that'd be pretty ace.
However, as the thread is about rerecording, I don't think Nevermind is an option, Tom!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 15:32:07
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Very good point Simon.
How about Abbey Road?
DOH!!!
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 15:36:00
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Ah, but no need! They sort of did Let It Be though...
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 15:52:19
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i thought ray davis' re-recordings of kinks songs were pretty good.
Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 16:33:10
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...World Party! Hey!
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Leonard Cohen - Death of a Ladies Man / Ditch that awful Phil Spector and bring in John Lissauer. Lisssauer produced Cohen's New Skin For The Old Ceremony, which was perfect.
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 16:37:04
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Originally posted by ObfuscateByWill
...World Party! Hey!
why re-recorded? been listening to quite a bit of world party recently... love them!
i wish robbie williams hadn't killed she's the one.
Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 17:03:51
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Oops.
I was shocked at the World Party sig. Just heyin'
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rockmusic84
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 19:48:15
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I agree with some of you that Phil Spector and his infamous "Wall of Sound" have ruined many a recording. Listen to "How do You Sleep" from John Lennon's "Imagine". It's such a deep, raw song, and Phil's string arrangements make it sound a bit cartoonish. And on "I Don't Wanna be a Soldier Mama", from the same album, the mix is so fucking dense, you can't make out one instrument from another, it's just all noise.
As far as albums or songs being re-recorded, it usually ends up with bad results. The originals are always going to be the "definitive" versions, no matter if the group/artist could do it better or not.
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 01:14:14
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
I'd still love to hear the original Steve Albini mix of In Utero, that'd be pretty ace.
However, as the thread is about rerecording, I don't think Nevermind is an option, Tom!
"I joined the Cult Of Joey and Iggy/Cos they can hypnotise chickens"
Heh, I mean, not re-recorded! That did go through my mind. They've most likely still got the unmixed tapes, maybe one day they could give it a dirtier mix.
I'd buy it.
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 04:50:08
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Originally posted by ObfuscateByWill
Oops.
I was shocked at the World Party sig. Just heyin'
*I don't think you want me to be your good friend.
ahhh! hahah! i forgot it was my sig! i thought you were saying they should re-record... heh. thanks! 
Is it like today? Oh, oh, oh-oh. Then there followed days with kings, empires and revolutions. blood just looks the same when you open the veins. sometimes it was faith, power or reason as the cornerstone. but the furrowed brow has never left his face. he said, how did it come to this?
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 15:06:28
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I love the Husker Du albums but it would be great to have some re-recorded. The production on Bob Mould's hubcap album was incredible in my opinion and I would like to hear New Day rising being recorded in the same way. Husker Du fans, please don't be angry at me for this.
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/29/2004 : 01:00:43
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I love early Ween, especially The Pod, which is a very lo-fi production. And each song is great as it is in it's minimal style for that album, but when they do some of those songs live, they have so much more life to them, the songs breath more and are more realized. And I'm not even talking about the performances of those songs in the last 8-10 years when Ween has slowly become one of the best live bands around, I'm talking about live versions of songs from the Pod I heard from 12 or so years ago, shortly after the album came out. Ween recorded all the songs from the Pod basically as they wrote them, so what appear on those albums are demos, rough drafts in a sense, and after that they got more familiar with the songs and were able to tear into them. Anyway, it'd be cool to hear how they'd tackle those songs in the studio nowadays, but I still love the original Pod.
I think Frank Black's Cult of Ray could use a re-recording. Maybe just a remixing, even. It's just a little thin and the guitars balanced in the channels in a way that is not conducive to the energy of the songs. I think Cult of Ray is a much stronger record than people realized, and I think a large part of it's shortcomings as a record are due to the production, cuz if there'd a been a different energy being put into those songs as well as a different energy glossing those songs over, I think their strengths would really show more.
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/29/2004 : 01:58:17
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The Steve Albini Mix of In Utero as well as a Nevermind era Recording session are both widely available on bootleg. I found the Nevermind one on Soulseek and was referred to the Steve Albini mix of Utero by the folks on the forums at Nirvanaclub.com
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/29/2004 : 02:16:30
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Too bad Nirvana sucked, so no mix of their music is gonna sound all that good.
I'm just jivin' and joshin' around. Nirvana played a big role in me picking up guitar. And even though I'm rather burnt out on both Nevermind and In Utero, I still occasionally put those albums on and just blast songs like Breed, Terriotorial Pissings, Radio Friendly Unit Shifter, Serve the Servants, Scentless Apprentice or Milk It and just ROCK OUT!
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