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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  01:15:50  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gary13th

Jet "Get Born"
great album !



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Sam
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
516 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  04:17:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Beta band- Heroes to Zeroes

Instant classic
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  14:33:14  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is that their new album Sam?, I heard abit on the radio and sounded pretty good.

I'm going to see the Liars on Monday, anyone heard them? "They Were Wrong, So We Drowned" is pretty good Avant Hard noise. They thank Suicide, Sonic Youth and Wire in their notes, so it's along those lines if you're into those bands.

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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1158 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  14:47:17  Show Profile  Visit Sir Rockabye's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As far as recent decent ablums go, I would suggest both

-Broken Social Scene "You Forgot It In People". These guys are really cool, and they are playing Coachella with the Pixies.

-The Rapture "Mirror". I really like this album, makes me want to get up and dance like a crazy person.

You were not making any mistakes while looking for Pig Lib. I just got it, it's really great. (Do Not Feed The) Oyster and One percent of One are both great songs.


Aloha means goodbye, and also hello.
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  16:38:43  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have now got three songs off of Pig Lib, Dark Wave, Ramp of Death and Vanessa of Queens. In fact trying to get hold of Pig Lib is well frustrating, half the time nothing comes up when I type in Stephen Malkmus, and when it does come up most of it is remotely connected (I assume this means that too many people are trying to download at the same time????).

Downloaded Tool - Lateralus (which sounds very good), and I nearly have my hands on The Mars Volta album.

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  17:57:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stuart, forget KaZaa and go get SoulSeek. www.slsk.net. Far better, you can find everything on there. Hell, you can download Pig Lib from me.
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  19:10:54  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by therewererumours


I'm going to see the Liars on Monday, anyone heard them? "They Were Wrong, So We Drowned" is pretty good Avant Hard noise. They thank Suicide, Sonic Youth and Wire in their notes, so it's along those lines if you're into those bands.

He's coming to save your mind and town



My wife loves Suicide, but I don't get it.

Like Sigue Sigue Sputnik on valium.

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Downloaded some clips of the Liars @ http://www.liarsliarsliars.com/downloads.html

Very, very cool.

On a couple of the tracks I'm reminded of Whitehouse, which is pretty freaky.



*I used to be into sadism, necrophilia, and bestiality, but I gave them all up when I realized I was flogging a dead horse.
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  19:44:20  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ObfuscateByWill

quote:
Originally posted by therewererumours


I'm going to see the Liars on Monday, anyone heard them? "They Were Wrong, So We Drowned" is pretty good Avant Hard noise. They thank Suicide, Sonic Youth and Wire in their notes, so it's along those lines if you're into those bands.

He's coming to save your mind and town



My wife loves Suicide, but I don't get it.

Like Sigue Sigue Sputnik on valium.

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Downloaded some clips of the Liars @ http://www.liarsliarsliars.com/downloads.html

Very, very cool.

On a couple of the tracks I'm reminded of Whitehouse, which is pretty freaky.



*I used to be into sadism, necrophilia, and bestiality, but I gave them all up when I realized I was flogging a dead horse.



Ha ha, Sigue Sigue Sputnik were great. The Liars first album was pretty different from their new one, I like the directions they take with their sound. I espcially like that they were influenced by the Silver Apples.

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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  20:39:20  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
These may not be recent enough, but they're are the newest things I've got: The Throwing Muses album from last year has some of their best songs ever;
also David Byrne "Look Into The Eyeball"- his best since "Uh-Oh"- he's always better when he's relaxed and not trying too hard to be weird.

I said, "You have no hard-on till that aching fills your chest"/ Good-bye Lorraine
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  20:51:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m

Stuart, forget KaZaa and go get SoulSeek. www.slsk.net. Far better, you can find everything on there. Hell, you can download Pig Lib from me.



I've been using soulseek myself for a while now, but lately I've been getting paranoid. Does anyone know how safe it is? It sure would suck to get sued. Do bands still even sue anymore? God damn Metalica.

Pig Lib's cool, but a little jammy. I prefer malkmus' first solo myself.

And Jet? They're pretty much a cover band that doesn't play covers. Ever song sounds like someother famous song.

And I'll repeat: Soviet Kitsch by Regina Spektor is incredible. Check it out on soulseek. Especially Ghost of Corporate Future and Chemo Limo. Great stuff.

Some like wine and some like hops but what I really love is my scotch
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =

USA
408 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  21:53:15  Show Profile  Visit Johnny Yen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You should be using a bit torrent program. It's probably the easiest way to dl full albums. God bless www.suprnova.org
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =

USA
936 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2004 :  21:57:22  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
mclusky do dallas

"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders

www.transposed.net
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
516 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  01:38:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey therewererumours!

Yeah Heroes to Zeroes in the beta bands latest album and it is definetley worth buying. Their vocalist Steve Mason has an unusual voice but it really works with their tunes. Their percussion is amazing and their guitars and samples are sublime.They will have hits, and if not they will be another un-noticed gem. Check out "wonderful", "out-side" and "pure for". Like Kevin Keegan you will love it!!
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =

394 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  03:31:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Soulseek does the job.

Roger Sisters - gggggggggreat debut album.
Franz Ferdinand
Air - the last one (forgot it's name)
Sonic Youth - new album on soulseek (thinks it's called nurse)
Phoenix - good one

Classic stuff;

Beach Boys - Smile. Extreme pop.
mulatu - anything. Instrumental soul/jazz from ethiopia (early 70's) with mysterious tones. Awesome.
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  04:51:17  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by misleadtheworld

quote:
Originally posted by gary13th

Jet "Get Born"
great album !



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They are about, dressed to deceive, architect David Vincent






It's getting colder....


whats wrong with it ? well i like it,anyway !


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They are about, dressed to deceive, architect David Vincent
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1968 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  05:14:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sir Rockabye, the only Hot Snakes I heard is Suicide Invoice, so that's the one I recommend. HIGHLY recommend. There's so many great guitar parts on that album, and the tone of the guitars is incredible. Just wait till you listen to the first song. You'll swear a swarm of bees are attacking you.

"(insert clever quote here)"
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  07:36:17  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m

Stuart, forget KaZaa and go get SoulSeek. www.slsk.net. Far better, you can find everything on there. Hell, you can download Pig Lib from me.



Speedy, that would be cool if I could do that. Remember to give me a shout when you want me to send you that Frank Black live gig for the FTP.

Can you get in shit for downloading stuff? From what I have heard of Pig Lib it's great, better than the first Malkmus album if you ask me.

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  07:46:24  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There was a thingy in the paper the other day about the BPI (British Phonographic Industry, UK equivalent to RIAA) starting to crack down on illegal file sharing. Basically, the gist of the article is that as long as you're not a serial uploader, you should be OK. Their theory is, if they target uploaders, sooner or later there won't be anything to download, ending the problem.

What I'd recommend is simply not to keep your mp3's or whatever in a Shared Folder, such as you have with Kazaa. Transfer any files you have to a different folder and they become untraceable for anyone attempting to trace your activity.

I'm not sure if this is the RIAA's line as well, but I think its a similar ethic.


"I joined the Cult Of Joey and Iggy/Cos they can hypnotise chickens"

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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =

USA
408 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  07:57:23  Show Profile  Visit Johnny Yen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Stuart:
SInce you're in China you're out of the jurisdiction of the riaa, bpi, and whatever the fuck those canucks have. I'm pretty sure China isn't doing anything about "illegal" downloaders. I'd imagine they'd be more concerned with the more immediate pirate dvd problem.
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  08:01:48  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thats cool.. I pretty much transfer them to a different folder anyway. Getting adsl over here has been the greatest thing since sliced bread, the amount of music I now have access to is phenomenal.

'I'm the Daddy Now!' - Prison Daddy of Beijing Peoples State Penitentiary
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2004 :  10:44:11  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sam


Yeah Heroes to Zeroes in the beta bands latest album and it is definetley worth buying.Their percussion is amazing and their guitars and samples are sublime.



I saw seem do a live show on tv and they ran around playing different instruments, and as you say the guitars, samples and drums were really cool. Their one of those bands I've always meant to get something by. Listening to Ween's Quebec at the moment, lots of people recommending it, but I'm still hooked on The Mollusc. The start of Transdermal Celebration reminds me of the start of Caribou?

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model consumer
- FB Fan -

USA
128 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2004 :  18:21:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by therewererumours

Is that their new album Sam?, I heard abit on the radio and sounded pretty good.

I'm going to see the Liars on Monday, anyone heard them? "They Were Wrong, So We Drowned" is pretty good Avant Hard noise. They thank Suicide, Sonic Youth and Wire in their notes, so it's along those lines if you're into those bands.

He's coming to save your mind and town



Liars are great! I only have the first album "They threw us in a trench and put a monument on top" which I really like, but I know I'll get that new one you mention some day hopefully soon.

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"What's all I listen to? It's all freedom rock!"
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2004 :  04:54:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone heard the new Incubus album? I really like the two singles so far. I think I will buy it.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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This_Guy
- FB Fan -

Canada
146 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  02:52:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
don't die without a copy of the new modest mouse album.
your ears will thank you for many hours.
over and over.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  03:21:52  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Talking about p2p, the European Union just passed a law which makes downloading stuff legal if for personl use (no reselling, pubblic performance, multiple copies etc). Uploading is still illegal though.

For those interested in their privacy\security in p2p, though there is no 100% guaranteed protection, there are 3 simple things to do that eliminate most threats:

1- A good and frequently updated antivirus program. RIAA and it's friends have infested p2p networks with fake files and viruses. Don't trust every file you dl even if it seems harmless an mp3 or .txt file.
2- Get a good firewall like Zone Alarm Pro and make sure that you block from accessing the net all the programs that you don't need.
3- Get Peerguardian. It's a program that when you use a p2p network denies access to ip's that are known to belong to corporations or law enforcement agencies. It's free and you can have it here : http://methlabs.org Here you will find all sort of information about p2p.


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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  08:17:28  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I heard a record last night by India Arie, which I thought was terrific.

-Owen
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BPrend
- FB Fan -

92 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  09:13:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
of montreal - satanic panic in the attic (also the gay parade and coquelicot asleep in the poppies, but they are older)
the decemberists - castaways and cutouts, her majesty the decemberists, and the tain ep
the unicorns - who will cut our hair when we're gone?
those are the main ones i haven't seen listed
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  17:21:24  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
RIAA and it's friends have infested p2p networks with fake files and viruses.


If this is true, has it ever been used against them in court? I mean, that's much more illegal than copyright infringement.

I remember hearing that the RIAA, or some organization of the sort, wanted federal permission to destroy the computers of people who shared files. I assume they never got it.



I've reached 1000 posts / So I'm too cool to be in a cult.
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  17:34:17  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I didn't like the new Bowie at first...but now I love it.


Breaks just like a little girl.
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1968 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  17:38:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the new Bowie anything like Heathen? That was a pretty good record. I'm not much into Bowie, but I liked it alright.

"(insert clever quote here)"
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1340 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2004 :  18:58:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mclusky - do dallas

Without reading the topic I know that its better than anything else listed (recent anyway)



I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.

*Adapted By Carolynanna*
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  01:02:13  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I second Lateralus.

-Owen
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chick
- FB Fan -

Canada
118 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  01:23:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The dears are a great band.The first time I saw them was on much music.(canadian music channel). The White Stripes are also really cool.I saw them in the summer and they were great! alexisonfire are cool too.You have to be into not knowing what the singer is saying though.( jk)The distillers would have to get the best new album vote from me.Really cool.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  02:21:57  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I know Talkie Walkie (by Air) has been mentioned but I thought it needed more mention. Damn damn good.

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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2004 :  06:40:07  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat

quote:
RIAA and it's friends have infested p2p networks with fake files and viruses.


If this is true, has it ever been used against them in court? I mean, that's much more illegal than copyright infringement.

I remember hearing that the RIAA, or some organization of the sort, wanted federal permission to destroy the computers of people who shared files. I assume they never got it.



I've reached 1000 posts / So I'm too cool to be in a cult.



True but there are two problems:
1st You can't prove it was them
2nd Even if you could prove that they deliberately spread viruses or malware by labeling them as frequently downloaded files, how would you explain the fact that you got a virus thinking you were downloading copyrighted material?




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