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the tolerant
= Cult of Ray =
298 Posts |
 Posted - 04/15/2004 : 17:38:20
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will frank ever get the recognition he deserves as a songwriter unless he blows his brains out. from the conception of the pixies to the the last song on the latest catholics album he's rolled out song after song. his style of writing and genre has changed in time and he's still going stong. but still i dont feel he gets enough "respect" (whatever) from the music inustry, however evil it is. i see this man up there with what many class as the greats (dylan, lennon, blah blah blah).....i read a thread bout people liking elton john...that guys famous the world over (and for what i dont know but thats my own personal opinion), his ass kissed from the queen to the wannadies on flop idol.
i know his musics a bit quirky at times but songs, sweet, killer songs he writes continually.
we're all here for a reason, why we the only ones who seem to get it.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 17:40:36
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| i doubt it, but maybe his solo work will be on a similar 10 year delay as Pixies .. and 10 years from now the world will understand the true brilliance of the Yellow Album. |
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the tolerant
= Cult of Ray =
298 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 17:50:49
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| i was just thinking bout the kurt thing and someone mentioning voice of a generation and i thought man if the world, or the rock press wanna label kurt with something like that then what sorta title bestows our one and only charles. the man was and is an inspiration. just wanted him to get the pat on the back he deserves but then again the music press suck so fuck them. the pat on the back comes from us i guess. we love ya frank. thankyou for the music. |
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chrischob
- FB Fan -
Canada
110 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 19:51:23
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I dont understand the people who will kill to goto a Pixies show but wont go see Frank Black solo...
Chris Choboter
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 21:22:05
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Man, if people are getting murdered just so someone can see the Pixies live, I hope this reunion ends soon.
 Join the Devil's Workshop / Looking for idle hands to work second shift |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 21:43:49
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They never do...
 Join the Cult of the Flying Pigxies - I'm A Believer! |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 21:51:33
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Maybe it's the Catholics who are getting murdered!
I've reached 1000 posts / So I'm too cool to be in a cult. |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 08:49:02
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Originally posted by floop
i doubt it, but maybe his solo work will be on a similar 10 year delay as Pixies .. and 10 years from now the world will understand the true brilliance of the Yellow Album.
yeah, yeah, yeah ! i couldn't agree more - the yellow album & TOTY will be quoted in one row with pet sounds and...(can't find anything comparable now)
just screw it, as long as we have it. if people don't want to or can't see beauty, leave them alone. you can't force them to be happy.
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kingphilbert
= Cult of Ray =
USA
356 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 09:10:58
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| I myself have fallen into a pattern of listening to undeserved artists. It's a great shame that singer/songwriters like Frank Black and Eric Bachmann (Archers of Loaf/Crooekd Fingers) can have a very recognizable first band in their genre, end it and go on doing what they want to be doing. They are geniuses in their own right and it doesn't seem they will ever get the recognition they deserve. Not from the critics, press or general public anyways. But they get it from us in spades and hopefully that keeps them going, and producing what we love hearing from them. |
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FrankfanL
- FB Fan -
USA
98 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 13:35:04
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| Frank has not gotten his "props" from the general public, many critics, and the press--this is true. But I wonder if Frank really longs for praise from these factions. Like when he was invited to play for David Bowie's 50th birthday party at Madison Sq. Garden, that was a gigantic "thumbs up" to Frank,not to mention Bowie covering one of his tunes, a huge compliment. Praise from the master is indeed gratifying. Keep on keepin' on, Frank. We love you and your music. We love your brain!!! |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 16:18:23
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yeah, yeah, yeah ! i couldn't agree more - the yellow album & TOTY will be quoted in one row with pet sounds and...(can't find anything comparable now)
OK, you've taken it too far. Pet Sounds should not be taken lightly. Pet Sounds is the greatest album recorded...not even in the same spectrum as TOTY or S/T.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 16:21:51
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Just don't start it two reelers, its just not worth the hassle... 
 "Join The Cult Of Wormy Cheese Man/In Ten Words Or Less" |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 17:20:09
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Originally posted by chrischob
I dont understand the people who will kill to goto a Pixies show but wont go see Frank Black solo...
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 17:50:22
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because the Pixies and most of Frank Black's solo work are very different? Don't cry for yourselves, guys.
Plus, seeing as we're a minority, who is to say we're the wrong ones? I mean, there are probably lots of minority groups you think areweird. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 22:57:10
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Every fan forum dedicated to a musician who's mostly popular on a "cult" level, like The Frank, thinks their guy isn't "getting the recognition he deserves" and all that.
Maybe I used to get caught up in these kinds of thoughts -- I don't remember -- but it isn't something I think about much now. There's a lot of talented musicians not getting the recognition they might deserve. Some of them I've heard of and like, some of them I've never heard of and may never hear of.
It's all just a game. It's like the lottery. Some will hit the really big prize, some just-as-talented folks will hit a smaller (but still impressive) prize, some talents equal to those will hit an even smaller prize, and some fine talents won't win a thing.
Whatever, ya know. For me, I'm just happy to have things I enjoy. I don't think too much about others. |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2004 : 00:11:22
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Originally posted by El Barto
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yeah, yeah, yeah ! i couldn't agree more - the yellow album & TOTY will be quoted in one row with pet sounds and...(can't find anything comparable now)
OK, you've taken it too far. Pet Sounds should not be taken lightly. Pet Sounds is the greatest album recorded...not even in the same spectrum as TOTY or S/T.
"Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window."
I joined the cult of this mouse / and now I occidentally tic-tac |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2004 : 00:14:17
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Originally posted by El Barto
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yeah, yeah, yeah ! i couldn't agree more - the yellow album & TOTY will be quoted in one row with pet sounds and...(can't find anything comparable now)
OK, you've taken it too far. Pet Sounds should not be taken lightly. Pet Sounds is the greatest album recorded...not even in the same spectrum as TOTY or S/T.
"Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window."
in the last days i have some problems with my posts, sorry to flood the board...once again:
despite what cheeseman said (i guess he is right), just one reply: let's talk about this again in 10 years and let's see who is right...
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2004 : 04:16:57
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Of course I'm right, aren't I always?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2004 : 06:13:54
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Originally posted by El Barto
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yeah, yeah, yeah ! i couldn't agree more - the yellow album & TOTY will be quoted in one row with pet sounds and...(can't find anything comparable now)
OK, you've taken it too far. Pet Sounds should not be taken lightly. Pet Sounds is the greatest album recorded...not even in the same spectrum as TOTY or S/T.
"Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window."
Well, Pet Sounds is great, but Smile was at least 2 times better.
Ok it's was never released, but it was somehow recorded. I only like pet sounds because I'm so addicted to Smile.
"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf" |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2004 : 08:49:09
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I love SMiLE just as much...I'll wait till it's released to say which one I love more. I think if SMiLE were properly released after Pet Sounds, I'd love it more than Pet Sounds.
In 10 years, I can still guarantee S/T and TOTY will be nowhere near Pet Sounds. Sorry.
"Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window." |
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2004 : 14:39:39
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I have yet to hear Smile. I need to. What if I can't wait until this fall?
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2004 : 14:40:13
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Originally posted by chrischob
I dont understand the people who will kill to goto a Pixies show but wont go see Frank Black solo...
Chris Choboter
Frank Black 4 , Pixies 1 (gonna try to make it 2 on thursday)
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2004 : 15:07:52
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Originally posted by prozacrat
I have yet to hear Smile. I need to. What if I can't wait until this fall?
You can dig through the tons and tons of bootlegs and listerner-brewed mixes of what remains of the 66/67 recordings. A lot of the songs seem completed. You can also dig up some of the live 2004 bootlegs, to hear what the completed SMiLE should be.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2004 : 16:52:19
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Damn. Thta sounds like.... WORK. I don't wanna do that. I'll see what I can find. Thanks. And boycott cults? Even the Cult of Joey? It's not a bad cult, honest!!
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slaveish
= Cult of Ray =
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2004 : 22:18:39
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| i'd say that frank black has the kind of career he wants. being recognized by the masses- which really means being pushed on the masses by the media/god/the man is not necessarily a good thing. |
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Mickey
- FB Fan -
USA
207 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2004 : 04:03:17
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I think Frank Black's music is very accessible, and that is why I have always been confused by his lack of superstardom. His songs are catchy, and that is pretty much what makes a hit. Just confusing. I don't buy that they way he looks is what's holding him down, either. There have been many succesfull musicians, actors, ect. who do not meet the stereotypical standards of good looks. Lack of marketing, I guess.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2004 : 18:47:41
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Yeah, lack of marketing probably has something to do with it, as does the intellectual level. A lot of Frank's songs have references to historical and scientific stuff, and there seems to be a largely anti-intellectual climate among the general public. Basically, Frank is too smart the record-buying public. <g> Besides, if people wanted to hear catchy and accessible music, they wouldn't listen to all those bands made up of young white guys who scream a lot.
I've reached 1000 posts / So I'm too cool to be in a cult. |
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EnglishGeezer
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
63 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2004 : 09:33:06
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| The larger population of this world dont even know who the Pixies and Frank are. When I wear my Pixies stuff people seriously ask "who are they" and my friend thought FB died when Johnny Cash passed over. He wont get recognition at the scale of Elton John ever, but I qite like it like that. |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2004 : 12:28:09
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Originally posted by billgoodman
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Well, Pet Sounds is great, but Smile was at least 2 times better.
Ok it's was never released, but it was somehow recorded. I only like pet sounds because I'm so addicted to Smile.
I really wish people would stop comparing Pet Sounds and Smile - they are both excellent VERY different albums. They are both amazing for what they are. The other day i was thinking about how we as a "group" compare music too much as opposed to just appreciate and enjoy it.
-brian
 - "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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what does frank have to do....
