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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 04/07/2004 :  14:03:37  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.


Anywho! I think I just realized another reason why I think most of the music of today sucks, especially compared to oldies. Because no one uses the amazing vocal layering anymore! I mean, listen to the Beach-Boys...amazing stuff! The only exception to this would be Pinback, and hey, they rock. I think that's why "I Bleed" and "I'm Amazed" (Don't forget "Silver"...oh wait, I don't want to have people Silver bash some more...) are so powerful...the vocals of Kim and Charles intertwining and looping here and there throughout the entire song..they compliment eachother beautifully. I need to download "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" right now, though...it's stuck in my head...

Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 04/07/2004 :  14:06:24  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree. I love bands like Low and the like who do the harmony thang, especially the boy/girl part. lurvely.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 04/07/2004 :  14:08:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stellastarr* kind of do it. Amanda's backing vocals are sooooooooo beautiful. She has the voice of an angel. I even prefer her backing vocals to Kim's!!!

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shineoftheever
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Posted - 04/07/2004 :  14:36:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought it was "In the spaceship, the silver spaceship...."

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shineoftheever
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Posted - 04/07/2004 :  14:37:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, and how about that vocal layering on TMBG's "Dinner Bell" - Genius!

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bedrock_barney
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Posted - 04/07/2004 :  15:23:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

I agree. I love bands like Low and the like who do the harmony thang, especially the boy/girl part. lurvely.


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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 04/07/2004 :  15:30:21  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That explains alot!


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ProverbialCereal
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Posted - 04/07/2004 :  15:37:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, most bands think their lead singer is powerful enough to carry the job of vocalist all by himself. Look at bands like Nickelback and Creed... their vocalists suck and they rarely have ANY BGVs. Bands need good backing vocals.

On a side note I really can't stand "The Lion Sleeps Tonight"


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El Barto
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Posted - 04/07/2004 :  21:08:24  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah...there aren't very many (any) vocal rock groups these days...groups that focus on vocals. If I start a band in England, everybody will have to be able to sing as a requirement to join.


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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 04/08/2004 :  03:48:56  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I totally agree. At ATP I saw alot of bands that used vocal harmonies withing the band...00100 used some, sort of, but in a slightly different way...and many more as well.

I find it fascinating, watching and hearing the way two or more voices can intertwine...



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Posted - 04/08/2004 :  03:50:10  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

Yeah...there aren't very many (any) vocal rock groups these days...groups that focus on vocals. If I start a band in England, everybody will have to be able to sing as a requirement to join.


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wouldnt it be more apppropriate requirement for them to be able to sing in harmony with yourself, darling?



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El Barto
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Posted - 04/08/2004 :  16:18:47  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Of course! That's the whole point! A lot of the songs I'm working on have at least two part vocal harmonies. One of the songs I recorded recently I did 3 vocal tracks for.


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WolfManMikeLonely
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Posted - 04/08/2004 :  17:59:20  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I must say the Unicorns have some great harmony work and some great dual vocals that go back and forth, very fun.

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paintmeister
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Posted - 04/08/2004 :  19:23:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal

Yeah, most bands think their lead singer is powerful enough to carry the job of vocalist all by himself. Look at bands like Nickelback and Creed... their vocalists suck and they rarely have ANY BGVs. Bands need good backing vocals.

On a side note I really can't stand "The Lion Sleeps Tonight"





Try TMBG's version of it on Apollo 18. And while you're there listen to Dinner Bell. Second vote for this song.

I asked this guy I was working with what bands he liked. Nickelback and Creed. I asked him why so many people don't like them. He said "It's just Pure rock and roll." I had to turn my head because I was starting to crack up.


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ProverbialCereal
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Posted - 04/08/2004 :  22:39:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol. that's funny.


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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 04/09/2004 :  01:01:40  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

I totally agree. At ATP I saw alot of bands that used vocal harmonies withing the band...00100 used some, sort of, but in a slightly different way...and many more as well.

I find it fascinating, watching and hearing the way two or more voices can intertwine...



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Mel, did you see Ella Guru? They do some tasty boy/girl harmonies.


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billgoodman
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Posted - 04/09/2004 :  01:08:45  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
let's not forget that o-wim-o-weh-o-wim-o-weh-o-wim-o-weh
is a stolen line and a that the lions sleep tonight is a stolen melody
of the late african singer Solomon Linda who never got real payment for this song while criminal David Weiss became a millionair with his illegal copyright of this song



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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 04/09/2004 :  04:08:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let's not forget it!?!?!?

We didn't even know it!!!

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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 04/10/2004 :  06:59:07  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

I totally agree. At ATP I saw alot of bands that used vocal harmonies withing the band...00100 used some, sort of, but in a slightly different way...and many more as well.

I find it fascinating, watching and hearing the way two or more voices can intertwine...



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Mel, did you see Ella Guru? They do some tasty boy/girl harmonies.


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Yeah, i did, great stuff. Altho the oinly reason we went to see them was because they sounded kinda like my friends name - Elleanor (ellie) Gurney. hehe



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bumblebeeboy2
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Posted - 04/10/2004 :  09:23:13  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
there are some bands that do vocal layering... erm, let me think... dandy warhols do in some songs... (sleep is a good example). i will think of more...



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WolfManMikeLonely
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Posted - 04/11/2004 :  08:09:25  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I might catch hell for pointing it out but Blink 182 can pull out some good harmony stuff from time to time. I really liked some of the stuff going on in the first single to their newest record, though I can't stand the new one and their song with Robert Smith on the album isn't half bad either.

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Posted - 04/11/2004 :  08:32:44  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I do see your point actually wolf man. I saw them live once at a festival, and to be honest, they do have some good harmonies going on.



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IceCream
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Posted - 04/11/2004 :  12:46:28  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Even bands with a really good singer need backing vocals. Two of my favorite Radiohead songs, "Polyethylene" and "Paranoid Android", are NOTHING without the backing vocals. And, think about Pixies -- "Distance Equals Rate Times Time" needs Kim's backing vocals or the song is feces.


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realmeanmotorscutor
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Posted - 04/11/2004 :  13:04:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love female backing vocals and I Bleed has always been one of my favorites. I love how Chuck goes high and Kim low at the end.

You should check out Azure Ray. Those are some beautiful ladies with beautiful voices.


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