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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 05/13/2004 :  14:01:33  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was thinking for me we'd just put on I Dream Of Deanie and use the original music. :)

Also, it's probably for the best this didn't happen. Paul (McCartney) and I were practicing your song in the millenium dome last night and got some noise complaints, so we had to shut it down.



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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2004 :  17:58:27  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
My band would be down for whatever may come next. It'd be lovely to get over that copyright snafu and just put out a compilation of original works by forum members. But something that could be similar in significantly easier to put together would be this:
Back when mp3.com wasn't dead, you could start a "radio station" type thing. Just put on songs that were on the web site that you liked. I'm sure another mp3 website has a similar feature. Members could just submit their tunes to one of these web sites and someone could add tracks to it, or oversee it. It could be pretty easy I think. I may look into it. My band is currently on iuma.com and dmusic.com, both of which are nice. Does that sound lucid/possible?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2004 :  22:28:09  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, of course we like the idea of hosting the tribute albums as it's a way of promoting the site. It's something to consider, though... I'll have to look into this more when we get things fired up.


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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2004 :  00:55:29  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Oh I'm definately thinking of that as a way of promoting the site. I don't know what a station like that would be called, but it could be specifically promoting bands who share the common bond that is frankblack.net, thus promoting frankblack.net as well. "Hey, we have more songs on the internet now. Check them out. It's at the frankblack.net station on blah blah blah mp3 site..." Etc. etc. We could still host tribute albums, but also sponsor an mp3 page like that. Only not sponsor in the sense that frankblack.net pays for it, because most sites like that are free. Or at least in my experience. I love what I've heard of the tribute CDs this site has put together, and I want more of them, and want to be involved in more of them. I'd also like to have a website where I can find original music by other people I've met on this forum as well. That's all. Does this sound slightly more lucid?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2004 :  08:09:59  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It does. :)

I'll look into that depending on what happens with our FTP. Maybe we'll do both. Let me think about it...


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/14/2004 :  11:11:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've already written mine.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
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Posted - 05/14/2004 :  11:12:31  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't this be in violation of copyrights?

We're allowed to distro these semi-privately...but there would be some serious issues with having them publicly available..


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2004 :  12:20:49  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good point.


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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2004 :  15:41:30  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think regardless, it's a violation of copyright, be it public or private. No profit is made in either situation. Our tributes are technically public...they're made available to the public; granted, there are a few hoops to jump through (signing up and logging in). If we only distributed them to, say, a list of people...that's a bit more private. At least we have the A-OK from the higher ups to do it, so it's one step closer to making it a little more legal, but either way it's the same situation.


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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 05/15/2004 :  15:19:25  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I seem to remember when submitting songs to dmusic.com or iuma.com they protect the songs through some copyright means or another. I'll look at that. And I'm referring to original songs, too. I don't have much experience with putting cover songs on a site like this. I do remember with mp3.com, you could only put original music on your site, but they had a separate one if you had recorded cover songs and wanted to put them on the site. So they must have had all their bases covered. I'll look into the two sites that I'm a member of and get whatever copyright info I can.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2004 :  15:46:23  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Okay. This is what dmusic.com has to say.
http://www.dmusic.com/tos/uploads

I don't know too much about copyright, but I don't believe this site is infringing on anything. If somebody wants to look it over...
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2004 :  15:10:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who cares about Copyright?

Let's go copyleft: http://artlibre.org/licence.php/lalgb.html

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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2004 :  07:54:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let's put this topic back on top
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2004 :  11:37:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the "distribution model" for these FB.net tribute "albums" is not broken, I don't think there's any compelling reason to fix it.

Yes, the way these FB.net downloads are done is technically infringing.

However, after the promise of the limited scope, and the insistence that people sign up on the boards in order to have initial access to the material, this site has been given Charles' and Ken Goes' blessing.

That's not a blessing any of us would like to see rescinded as a result of overstepping our bounds.

Let's try to make the next FB.net tribute album a better version of what has already been done. The basic groundrules set up by Dean and Dave, et al, seem quite evenhanded and magnanimous.

Let's simply retain that foundation and strive to make the whole thing run smoother and with less hassle for those in charge of overseeing the process.

And, let's not forget that once anyone has downloaded these tracks officially from us or copied them from a friend, they can set them up on their own personal or public web radio station or streaming jukebox with relative impugnity.

It's not worth 4AD's or Spime Songs' time to chase down piddly shit like that with cease and desist e-mails.

Charles and Ken certainly knew that would likely happen to some extent, so they must be fairly tolerant of such low-rent stuff, as long as it is not officially endorsed by FB.net.

Just my two cents.

~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2004 :  13:41:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I must say, I reallyliked the idea of writing original songs about forum members. It will never happen, but it's a great idea.


Help me! He keeps making me post!


Edited by - Cult_Of_Frank on 09/24/2004 14:34:11
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2004 :  14:00:58  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm still chatting with Tim (A4C) who mastered and helped out with the last ones. I'll be back here later.


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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2004 :  16:37:52  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

I must say, I reallyliked the idea of writing original songs about forum members. It will never happen, but it's a great idea.



Help me! He keeps making me post!





hahaha! very spooky, today i was bored and messing about, i wrote a song about you mike! it went "homers pet monkey, he is a flunky", was a nice chord progression.


Go go the average man! What are you looking for average man? The ain't nothing average about me man!

Edited by - Cult_Of_Frank on 09/24/2004 14:32:06
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2004 :  14:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At least I wasn't a junkie!

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2004 :  14:33:35  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Homer, you can still have a line in your sig, just use [ hr ] without the spaces. Just so 'ya know.


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2004 :  16:57:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry I don't understand. Could you explain a little more please.

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