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western star
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
4 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2004 :  23:31:16  Show Profile  Visit western star's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hi im new to this forum but have been a FB and Pixies fan for years, anyhoo imlooking to expand my FB collection and was wondering what ppl rate as their fave FB albums.

so far im besotted with dog in the sand and teenager of the year mainly, what about you guys?

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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  00:48:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm with you
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  00:49:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
p.s.
i'm pretty surprised that username was still available....
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =

Portugal
536 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  04:47:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The first solo album.
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kingphilbert
= Cult of Ray =

USA
356 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  06:33:32  Show Profile  Visit kingphilbert's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would say the first FB and the C album. It defined the style they would expand upon in later albums.
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -

USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  06:44:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whatever FB album I'm listening to at the time is usually my favorite album.


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smashmachine
- FB Fan -

28 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  07:32:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree, I got different feelings for every single one, and they are pretty much good. Personally, top to bottom, Dog in the Sand is my favorite. Mostly, I always loved los angeles, but then decided to give his other stuff a try, and then when I got dog in the sand, songs like st francis dam disaster, bullet, dits, they were blowing my mind. A close second, however, has to be Black Letter Days. Straight up, this album will blow your ass, I rock out to it numerous times a week, and it has my fav two songs - cold heart of stone and i will run after you
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  08:40:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TOTY

I'm a fsh with no i's.
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Mroocore
- FB Fan -

USA
177 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  09:13:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal

Whatever FB album I'm listening to at the time is usually my favorite album.


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i agree, however COR seldom leaves me satisfied.

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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  13:04:13  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm with Derek. My opinion changes all the time. I don't think one sticks out more than another for me. TOTY is definitely not a top album for me, though. Too many mediocre songs.


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  13:12:56  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
TOTY! Orange is also up there vying for first place. Then DITS, BLD, SMYT, COR, Pistolero, Brown. In no particular order.

Mediocre & Frank Black = undefined.


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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  15:10:19  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
BLD
DITS
The first FB&TC's
and I am also very fond of Show Me Your Tears.

It's just so personal and lovely.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  15:31:11  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Teenager for solo stuff, SMYT for Catholics


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greg
- FB Fan -

Canada
159 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  16:32:02  Show Profile  Click to see greg's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Teenager of the year, sheer brilliance! Gonna go listen to it right now as a matter of fact!
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greg
- FB Fan -

Canada
159 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  16:36:52  Show Profile  Click to see greg's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
On second thought I am going to listen too the Cult of Ray, as TOTY is in the car. Its great too!
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  00:38:24  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Show Me Your Tears, definitely. I thought I would rate it lower after a few months of repeated listening, but it didn't happen. I'm still convinced it's Frank's best album ever.


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  09:38:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably TOTY, 'though maybe I yam bein' too hasty....
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  14:36:37  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
TOTY is one of my all-time favorite albums. Then again, so is DITS.



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western star
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
4 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  13:15:44  Show Profile  Visit western star's Homepage  Reply with Quote
excellent, ta all. me/ runs to record store.
actually i did get black letter days just after posting the first time, fantastic album, now to buy 'em all!

how hard can it be...
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =

USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  15:53:47  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I could not possibly disagree with Ramona any more. Aside from Dog In the Sand, the only possible Catholics album that I might consider his best is Devil's Workshop. SMYT is a terrible album for Frank. I mean absonlutely terrible, imho. I could never comprehend how on earth anyone could consider SMYT better that 1993 Frank Black. That album is so incredibly amazing...........it just sounds like so much effort was put into layering and layering the mix (for example, at least three keyboards in Los Angeles) and writing some of incredibly experimental and eccentric tunes that actually have direction insted of being weird for the sake of weird (for example, "Parry the wind High, Low" has a really weird chord progression at the end - I count five chords, each for the same three beats...which is odd in itself, but in addition to that, the drums are in 4/4; yet it's a very catchy song), but I respect Ramona's opinion. To each their own.


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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2004 :  01:22:27  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

I'm with Derek. My opinion changes all the time. I don't think one sticks out more than another for me. TOTY is definitely not a top album for me, though. Too many mediocre songs.


"Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window."



Mediocre songs in TOTY? Come on! Which ones?



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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2004 :  09:55:35  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream

I could not possibly disagree with Ramona any more. Aside from Dog In the Sand, the only possible Catholics album that I might consider his best is Devil's Workshop. SMYT is a terrible album for Frank. I mean absonlutely terrible, imho. I could never comprehend how on earth anyone could consider SMYT better that 1993 Frank Black. That album is so incredibly amazing...........it just sounds like so much effort was put into layering and layering the mix (for example, at least three keyboards in Los Angeles) and writing some of incredibly experimental and eccentric tunes that actually have direction insted of being weird for the sake of weird (for example, "Parry the wind High, Low" has a really weird chord progression at the end - I count five chords, each for the same three beats...which is odd in itself, but in addition to that, the drums are in 4/4; yet it's a very catchy song), but I respect Ramona's opinion. To each their own.


Well, I get what you are saying but I think music is so personal and that is the point. The orange/yellow album just is not as moving or lovely to me as SMYT and that is the kind of thing I really like. Of course, I LOVE the OY album too - I have said it before - it is like picking your favorite kid! It is also always changing for me, it just depends what is going on with me in my life I guess. SMYT came out at a shitty time in my life and I just latched onto it and loved it. My gramma died in July and her name was Loraine and then I am listening to Goodbye Loraine, I mean...HELLO?! It's just something that goes to the heart and you can't really get anymore meaningful than that. And that is not even my favorite song on the CD - it is probably my least favorite - but I love it. L O V E I T.

And then FRANK BLACK has Ramona on it and Ten Percenter and Parry which are all fucking awesome songs. Did you see the SONGS THAT SAVED MY LIFE thread? Ramona is there for me, and somedays that CD is all I listen to. It's just where I am at at that moment, what I am thinking and most of all, what I am feeling. It's MUSIC and I adore it.

Like you said, to each their own.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2004 :  10:22:23  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's different albums at different times, but TOTY seems to be my favourite more often than the rest.

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"They?" inquired Metzger, twinkling also.
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2004 :  11:38:01  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Show Me Your Tears, TOTY, Dog In The Sand. One of these three could easily top the list on any day but hey, the other albums are great too........

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western star
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
4 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2004 :  18:50:20  Show Profile  Visit western star's Homepage  Reply with Quote
WOW! i just got hold of pistolero and by god its amazing, surprisedso few ppl mentioned it sooner, what a record, my new fave, yaaaaay!!!!!!!

how hard can it be...
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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =

503 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2004 :  19:14:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BUY THEM ALL! THEY ALL HAVE GREATNESS AND ALL CAUSE SHINCTOR PUCKERING EXPERIENCES AS WELL AS THE FREQUENT SHOTGUN BLAST.

Awwwwwwwwwww Lil' Buddage!
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paintmeister
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2004 :  20:21:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I gravitate to FBTC S/T the most but they all are great.


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klikger
= Cult of Ray =

693 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2004 :  20:32:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very hard to choose, but probably DITS at the moment. Still don't need to get CoR, Pistolero, and the first Catholics album though.
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2004 :  12:03:48  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mac E. Doobage

BUY THEM ALL! THEY ALL HAVE GREATNESS AND ALL CAUSE SHINCTOR PUCKERING EXPERIENCES AS WELL AS THE FREQUENT SHOTGUN BLAST.

Awwwwwwwwwww Lil' Buddage!



Buy them all, indeed.
You lost me on the sphinctor (sic) puckering though. Isn't that usually the reaction to something highly disturbing/disgusting???
Now, the shotgun blast, I can see... that's much of the effect when I smoke a doob (awww lil' doobie!) and listen to Bad, Wicked World.
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =

USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2004 :  12:16:08  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I never thought I'd say this, but Frank Black and the Catholics (1998) is really growing on me. I love it.


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darkoutsider
= Cult of Ray =

USA
285 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2004 :  14:03:58  Show Profile  Visit darkoutsider's Homepage  Click to see darkoutsider's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by western star

now to buy 'em all!




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rockmusic84
= Cult of Ray =

USA
256 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2004 :  17:32:54  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Frank Black, The Cult of Ray, Dog in the Sand, Devil's Workshop, Show Me Your Tears. I don't understand why everyone thinks "Teenager" is the shit. There are some good songs, but it goes on too long, and the music is too layered. I know the first album is pretty layered too, but it's used to good effect. On "Teenager", it just ruins songs that would otherwise be fine with basic instruments. It just takes up space.

I dig the Catholics stuff, because there's no sound effects, overdubbing, or any "fix-it-in-the-mix" bullshit that pervaded his earlier work. It's just the music. And the fact that it's done live gives it a fresh, warm sound. "Teenager" sounds stale and cold at times. It sounds a bit rushed, too. But maybe 4AD was pushing him for another disc, so he just threw "Teenager" together. So it may not be all his fault.

"Frank Black" is the album that is "the shit" in my honest opinion. Awesome songs, highly original music and lyrics, and the booklet artwork is great!! (the picture on the "Ten Percenter" page would've made a great album cover) :)

Cult of Ray always gets shit on, but I think it's one of his best. Most of the forum members bash this album, but without it, where would this site be? Look at the background of the site...The Cult of Ray logo. What are the first words that greet you when you enter the site..."...Come get Kicked in the Taco!" And what about all of our "cults" in our sigs? You people are ALL closet Cult of Ray lovers. Come out already!!!! Also, without Cult of Ray, you wouldn't have The Catholics!!!!!! (they became Frank's main band after working with him on Cult of Ray.) No Catholics!!!!!!?

Dog in The Sand...worth it just for the best guitar riff in the universe (next to "Hey") on "Blast Off". Awesome lyrics too. And "Hermaphroditos" rocks like a sonofabitch!!!!!

Black Letter Days is an awesome album. Yes, it, like "Teenager" is a double album, but I don't feel any of the songs or music take up or waste space. In fact, the only quip I have about this one, is that Frank didn't split it in half and make 2 brilliant discs out of it. it would be much easier to digest the work split up into 2 albums than 1 lengthy one.

Devil's Workshop is just brilliant from end to end. Short AND sweet.

I've already spoken about how much I love Show Me Your Tears. Safe to say it's his best yet.

The fact is, is that ALL the albums are great in their own way. Well, guess the only way you'll ever know is if you buy 'em up. :)

p.s. that Doolittle one is great too... :)

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Massif Centrale
- FB Fan -

Canada
7 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2004 :  09:21:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello fellow Frank Black lovers! My name is Lauren and I'm from Canada. I am new here and new to Frank's solo work as well. I bought SMYT recently and it has been an incredible experience listening to it. Just wanted to introduce myself and I look forward to reading about Frank's many other solo projects and about the new album! So hello everyone!

I would also love any advice on which past solo projects to venture out for next. see you around
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =

Sweden
308 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2004 :  10:23:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't really listened so much to all of his albums, YET, but my favourite so far is the FB&TC selftitled. yay
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rockmusic84
= Cult of Ray =

USA
256 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2004 :  22:46:18  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welcome, Massif Centrale! Glad to see someone who loves SMYT! Is it your first Frank album?

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Massif Centrale
- FB Fan -

Canada
7 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2004 :  08:52:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the recommendation Douglas!

Rockmusic84- yes, SMYT is my first Frank album. From your message I suppose it isn't as highly regarded? well, I really enjoy it. I requested 'My Favorite Kiss' on KEXP the other day. I love that interview Frank did at that station...especially the version of Mr.Grieves.
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