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Chroneos
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 Posted - 03/22/2004 : 21:44:18
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So how about them? I say they should have called it quits after Some Girls. See exhibits A-Emotional Rescue and B-Steel Wheels as evidence for my case.
P.S. I just realized haven't been on here in a frickin' long time . . . wow . . .
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TheCroutonFuton
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USA
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 21:52:06
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Yeah...but seriously...look at Richards or Jagger...you know they're going to die pretty soon as it is...(Sorry, but it's true...)
I absolutely love their early stuff. Paint it Black is probably my favorite song by them. But yeah, their bluesy stuff in the beginning of their career is amazing.
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 00:07:18
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The Stones should've called it quits after the first practice. They should've known then that they were destined to make nothing but shitty music for the rest of their lives. They could have said, "Wow, each of us creates really shitty music individually, and when we all play together, it's just that much worse. Let's not make this mistake. Let's not do this to the world. It'd be wrong." Then they could have given up on music and all gone seperate ways, on to do better things like bag groceries or be crossing guards, and not have contaminated the ears of the public with their fucking horrible music for years and years to come.
"God gave me everything I want." Obviously he didn't want any musical talent.
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Edited by - TarTar on 03/23/2004 00:11:52 |
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:20:10
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I don't like them very much. I know they are supposed to have made many classic rock records but they're just not my kind of thing. Rather give me Iggy Pop if I want to listen to some old classic ROCK records. I have listened to Exile on Main Street over and over again, I just don't get it. I'd say Paint it Black is a great song though
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Edited by - offerw on 03/23/2004 05:59:44 |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:32:22
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I bought Exile on Main Street last week and can't stop listening to it. It's a bit too long, but it's still cool as hell.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:36:08
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How about Frank Black pretending he's Mick Jagger, like in "Hermaphroditos". Not his best song, in my opinion (and I'm being very polite here)
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 04:05:29
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When Frank writes and plays songs that are reminiscent of the Stones, or influenced by them, the tunes that Frank creates are much stronger songs and more enjoyable than anything the Stones ever did.
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 08:32:37
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The beginning of Heloise sounds like one Stones song...I can't think of it though.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 10:18:44
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The Stones 68-73 ish kind of era were genuinely fantastic. Sticky Fingers is so good, as are Let It Bleed and Exile.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 10:22:48
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Hey I like Emotional Rescue ;)
Although I never really did get into the stones,
I like Shattered lots tho. |
Edited by - Carolynanna on 03/23/2004 10:24:45 |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 10:36:29
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Good, but not a patch on The Beatles IMO.
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BLT
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South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 11:22:45
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Good, but not a patch on The Beatles IMO.
Nor The Kinks, IMO. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 11:35:00
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Yeah The Kinks are excellent.
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amor es revenge
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 13:07:12
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Exile on Main Street was the beginning of the lo-fi sound that so many indie rockers have made their careers out of, fools
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BLT
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South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 13:38:28
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Originally posted by amor es revenge
Exile on Main Street was the beginning of the lo-fi sound that so many indie rockers have made their careers out of, fools
The problem is that The Stones are basically on a different wavelength/trip/vibe than I'm on. I have no problem with the music, but the lyrics just don't speak to me on a level that I give a shit about. That's not a comment on The Stones so much as a general assessment of my subjectivity. Also, I think they were pretty "lo-fi" before Exile (e.g. Beggar's Banquet or Let It Bleed). |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 13:41:57
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Originally posted by amor es revenge
Exile on Main Street was the beginning of the lo-fi sound that so many indie rockers have made their careers out of, fools
no signature- I can't write so well
The Rolling Stones invented Lo-Fi? Is that what you're saying?
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amor es revenge
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 13:51:21
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no, I meant exactly what I said. "Exile on Main Street was the beginning of the lo-fi sound"
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 14:51:06
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The beginning of Lo-Fi sound in general or THEIR Lo-Fi sound?
I assume you mean the latter 'cos obviously it's not the first Lo-Fi sounding album ever.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 14:52:17
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Its definitely been ripped off about a gazillion times...
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 14:54:06
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I think he means that it's been the "in" thing to do ever since the Stones did it. Before then it was sortof frowned upon...
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 14:55:42
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That's a better way to put it. I get what he is saying now. Thanks. 
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Homers_pet_monkey
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17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 15:00:06
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Just remembered that my dad, who is a musician himself, says that The Rolling Stones were awful live, constantly out of tune. Anyone else heard this? I assume none of you are old enough to be able to go off first hand experience, except for maybe recent tours which don't count 'cos after so much practice, they should now be able to play live OK.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 15:02:57
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Hehe, yeah, you know..sortof like Blink-182...Remember the days when bands that sucked were frowned upon by most people? Yeah, me neither...
Seriously..I was discussing this with my father just the other night. He was mentioning how when he was on a bussiness trip he sat next to a teenager on the flight and they were discussing music. I guess they got into Nirvana and the Pixies and then somehow back to the Rolling Stones. My dad told him how he had seen them 35 years ago. God damn...35 years ago. Back then mainstream was good. The Beatles, the Stones, the Kinks, the Who, CCR, Grand Funk Railroad...god damnit...the list goes on and on, you know? I want music like that NOW.
edit: Homer's Pet Monkey..when my dad saw them he said they were pretty good. I've heard some of their live stuff from way back when and it's not bad at all. *shrug*
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 15:07:13
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I think we got it, it just doesn't seem so original anymore. There is nothing knew left to do with rock 'n' roll anymore but that doesn't mean that the stuff coming out now isn't just as good as music gone by. It's just not quite as original.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 15:09:40
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Keyword: Mainstream
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 15:16:25
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Oh yeah you're right on that one. Our mainstream is crap. The charts are full of crap.
As for The Stones, well do you trust your dad on music? Is he a musician like mine? Musicians spot bad fellow performers better. And well, my dad's harder than yours!!! 
Hehe!!! Sorry couldn't resist that. Just going back to my childhood. Actually I don't think my dad could fight his way out of a paper bag. He is too small (and yet I am 6ft 3ins - even the milkman is not tall) and a peaceful man.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 16:00:30
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Back in the '60s, payola was still frowned upon. Nowadays it's the norm. Market positioning determines what gets played on the radio. There was a Frontline on PBS a year or two ago called "The Merchants of Cool". Quite an interesting episode:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 17:01:50
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The Stones aren't really my thing. I think it's largely Mick Jagger's voice that turns me off from them. They're not horribly bad or anything, but I tend to think they're a bit overrated.
Like TarTar, I prefer Stones-influenced stuff to the actual Stones. I feel much the same way about the Beach Boys.
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El Barto
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USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2004 : 18:27:31
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I never really got into the Stones much at all, but there are various songs of theirs that I really like. Angie is such a beautiful song, and may very well be my favorite of theirs. I never really sat down and listened to an entire album of theirs. Maybe I should, cause I might just like it.
I agree with Homer though. There really isn't much left to do with rock music as a whole...it's just repeating and repackaging itself. I don't think rock music will ever be like it was back in the 50s and 60s when it was fresh and exciting and "forbiddden." I think Nirvana was probably the last big thing to happen to rock and roll, and that was over 12 years ago. Don't get me wrong, there are still amazing albums being released, but nothing new is being done.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 19:15:31
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To me the Rolling Stones are one of those bands that seriously rock, but there's nothing really overly special about them and it's kind of difficult to just sit down and listen to them. They're great road music though.
As for the comment about there being nothing new left for rock music, I would say that nothing new is being done, but there is an endless world of possibilities and I'm sure sometime in the not-so-distant future some good band will come along with their own original style that sounds amazing and blow us all away. Also, change and originality are not always necessarily good things. Sometimes it's better just to take something that's already been done and expand on it and make it your own thing.
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Jayhawk
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 20:17:21
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| The Stones are my absolute favorites, but if they aren't your thing that's cool. They are not horrible live. Sure, there are nights when things may not click, but they can also be brilliant. Trust me, I've got loads of bootlegs. Cheers. |
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Chroneos
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 23:31:13
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Originally posted by VoVat
Like TarTar, I prefer Stones-influenced stuff to the actual Stones. I feel much the same way about the Beach Boys.
You don't know The Beach Boys until you've heard Pet Sounds and what's available from SMiLE so far . . . mmm . . . theremin . . .
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Mad Dawg
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USA
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Posted - 03/24/2004 : 00:36:53
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| Yes I think they should quit too. When they played Vegas last year they were only getting 250- 350 per ticket and it took almost half a day to sell out. Heard it was the same all over Europe. They had the BEST food backstage I've ever eaten at a show. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/24/2004 : 08:22:05
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Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Yes I think they should quit too. When they played Vegas last year they were only getting 250- 350 per ticket and it took almost half a day to sell out. Heard it was the same all over Europe. They had the BEST food backstage I've ever eaten at a show.
Do you honestly think those people are paying to hear Stones songs from the '80s and '90s? How many truly noteworthy songs have the Stones made since "Start Me Up"? |
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/24/2004 : 11:34:03
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Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Yes I think they should quit too. When they played Vegas last year they were only getting 250- 350 per ticket and it took almost half a day to sell out. Heard it was the same all over Europe. They had the BEST food backstage I've ever eaten at a show.
I understand now. You are Keith Richards!
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 03/24/2004 : 11:37:22
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I see, and the cruddy jewellery is the bits that he finds in his hair! It all makes sense now!
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