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bumblebeeboy2
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/19/2004 :  14:46:10  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I was just thinking out loud really... You know how artists, when they go solo, they don't tend to play stuff from their old band, not for a few years anyway... frank was no exception... now with the pixies reunion, i was wondering, when he goes back to doing his solo stuff, will he still play pixies songs or will he try and distance himself from it all again?

what do you think?





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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2004 :  15:03:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, he did play some Pixies stuff at his recent solo gig in San Fran.

But it's a good point. I think it was during the Pistolero tour that he started playing some Pixies stuff. But at the time, no one thought there would have been an outlet where he could have sang those songs again. Now that he's playing with the old band again, maybe there's no need to exorcise those demons.

On another note, has there been any indication as to whether this is simply a one time thing? That they do this tour and never see each other again. Or is there any possibility that the Pixes are back together with no real finite existance? That they will routinely play shows and maybe record. I don't imagaine that Frank is going to abondon everything he's done for the last 10 years, but that, maybe one year he devotes to the Catholics while Kim work with the Breeders, and then the next year, the Pixies.
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
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Posted - 03/19/2004 :  23:55:01  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
After the briliance of Show me your tears Frank HAS to make another album with the Catholics. Please........

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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2004 :  11:00:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it depends on how the Pixies tour goes. If it continues to go well, I think he'll still play Pixies songs once he's back doing his solo stuff.
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Old Neptuna
- FB Fan -

Ireland
200 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2004 :  13:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hopefully he'll play Los Angeles on the Pixies tour! I think Joey used to play that live with Frank on some of the 1993 early dates.

Main think is to hope that he carries on playing at all - whatever the songs.

Tuna


"Your head can go real screw, When saucers chasin' you.."
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 03/25/2004 :  09:26:49  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Im sorry, but has anyone else noticed every thread seems to have an element of repition invloved re: pixies reunion?>???

Not really complaining, well, I am, but i know why it happens, more of just an observation



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vigorstrength
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Posted - 03/25/2004 :  09:36:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While in "Frank Black," I would see why it would take some time to finally play Pixie songs. That would be nearly riding on the coat-tails of what the Pixies have accomplished.

But now that he's back, I can seem him promoting "Frank Black" quicker. It would be promoting the little guy, the solo project, the non-commercial. There's not much shame in that.
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Cabonga
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Antigua and Barbuda
53 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2004 :  12:00:39  Show Profile  Visit Cabonga's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Vigorstrength has a point. Personally I think our King exploit the reunion to promote solo-FB. It's all a clever plan behind this upcoming tour. FBeye

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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2004 :  17:03:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think he'll be happy with his solo work for a while. I hope so. He should (be happy too)

This time around it's the solo stuff that's been put on hold and er, neglected?. The fans have had the opportunity to see the Pixies live, heard the songs they wanted. If like me, they're now dying to hear his solo stuff again. With the same passion and want as back in the days we could only dream of a Pixies reunion.
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kromkamp
= Cult of Ray =

291 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2004 :  09:50:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Frank was playing Pixies stuff during the FB shows because the audience went nuts for it. Now that there has been a full on Pixies tour, the pent-up demand has been (hopefully) satisfied.

I personally dont see the need for any more Pixies songs at FB shows, for the next great while. Maybe 1 or 2 but he's been playing 7-8 of them recently (ie. more Pixies than anything off the first 3 solo albums!)

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My Velouria
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France
93 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2004 :  13:31:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think we should leave the Pixies for a while now...don't care if Pixies songs were better or not than FB ones, I love every of them and I do not want Pixies stuff prevent Frank from producing more new songs. We are happy now, we have heard Monkey's Gone to Heaven for the 100th time live but I've never heard End Of Miles live and I am very frustrated.
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kingphilbert
= Cult of Ray =

USA
356 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2004 :  13:51:56  Show Profile  Visit kingphilbert's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think he may always work in one or two from now on. If he's completely solo (no band) and nothing's happening with the Pixies at all, then maybe he does the 5 or 6 he would normally do. Only time will tell.

"I mix twinkie's and ding-dong's all the time. In Europe, they call it a Dinkie!"
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 12/01/2004 :  17:02:22  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think Frank should feel free to play Pixies songs at his own shows. For that matter, it might not be a bad idea to play solo songs at Pixies shows, but I don't know how well that would fly with the other members.



"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2004 :  17:16:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you find it's you or other people who shout requests? I know I don't, but it's cool. As long as I like the song. I bet Frank's had folks shouting Pixies at him since their split. Kim too probably. I know he's now mellowed out to the idea, or just given into the demand of playing the oldies. No better way to spend the summer than tour the world with thee best band on todays planet I guess.

It's a nice daydream to think of the Pixies crancking out Frank and Breeders material (and the rest).

Frank can play what he likes, VoVats right. I know I'll be listening.

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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2004 :  17:20:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ooo.....(a triple 'O' oo, it's a biggy)...imagine The Pixies playing Two Reelers (Go on. Imagine it. Please?)

The energy of that song is made for the Pixies.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6199 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2004 :  00:22:41  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think with honeycomb and all
you may consider him to go back to his solo stuff
there are rumours about breeders stuff too
besides that I think the pixies will go on as a group
a tour every two years or so
definately an album

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
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adda flea
- FB Fan -

USA
43 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2004 :  12:36:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ya know the funny thing about frank playing pixies music was this: Every tour (at least in L.A.) the crowd dwindled, which really didn't bother me any, until the DITS tour. It was like everyone knew that he was gonna play pixies music again because all of the sudden there were 500+ people there to see him, I think the previous show I had seen (a year earlier) netted about 50 fans.
But what I'd really like to hear is the pixies playing adda lee followed by Fb&C performing Palace of the Brine, or a country style version of Tame.....oh the possibilities are wonderful.
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =

France
696 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2004 :  14:33:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That huge man is more clever than we think. He is more clever and "calculator" than he would ever admit. Fake innocence is SO typicaly rock'n roll...
But I have to admit he did quite well these last 10 years.
Frank Black belongs to the kind of artists who build their legacies on freedom (wich is SO tipicaly rock'n roll). He cleverly managed to obtain this freedom and by and trough the way a cult status (this forum and the so devoted admirers we are are the proof in the black pudding... Mmmm black pudding...).
The reasons: Stars, everything is depending on the stars... Spacious, he's SO, we all know. The second reason is that only a true fan can become an ideal idol. There is something aristocratic about that (I hope you citizens of the United States of America would understand this European conception).
The third reason is the missionary one. The man passed through all tempests with the same strenght and behaviour. He actually went trough those tempests because he wanted to! He always did what he wanted, driven by something coherent. This is why his career deserves admiration and respect. He is a good example to follow.
Charles Thompson, I do not know the man. I met him 3 or 4 times, I mean face to face. The last time was backstage last July in Paris. It was weird, he thought I was a member of that awefull post rock band(a rock to send away, far away) Gremlins or something. I found in his eyes something cold and scared (not scary), but nice... nice all the way and polite. It's the destination and how you drive your car that matters, not necessary the Driver or Passengers...
What I want to express (oups I forgot.... yes) is that Frank Black does not exist. Frank Black is an over-developped aura who is taking over a number of concepts.
In my opinion by reforming Pixies, Frank Black took over Pixies. Definitely made it his own. Pixies became a part of Frank Black despite what you can hear through the media. The Treaten disc is one of the proof, a nice one.

Frank Black is a flower.
Frank Black is a monster.
In 30 years... that is all that will matter.

Oh I listen to Scott Walker singing Jacques Brel's songs. This is beautiful, you should try. Marc Almond did it too quite well.
I'm high, I perry the wind...
Low, I love that album, SO orange and Eno is cute.

Are U likely to become a ideal Idol?
Long live the King To Come!


HW
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2004 :  17:08:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hWolsky

That huge man is more clever than we think.

Frank Black belongs to the kind of artists who build their legacies on freedom

It's the destination and how you drive your car that matters, not necessary the Driver or Passengers...




I could never have put it like that, but you read my thoughts. Thanks for deciphering them in such an intellectual way.

Charles Thompson is my blue print for rock and roll. The simple fact he has always remained true to himself is a lesson to any pretender to the throne.

Shit! the more I surf this site the more I fall deep into the world of Frank Black.
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =

France
696 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2004 :  21:06:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes... I know... I can read minds, I already told this fact to this forum but did it pay atention to it? Baby that's art!
There is only one mind I can't read (and I can't wright down...)for reasons I explained above though the concept of "Frank Black Francis" (covering pixies songs under the name Frank Black Francis) seemed very logical and predictable to me 7 years ago...
Was it the case for some of you?

I am Rosicrucian and sleep with a rosy cushion.

HW
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =

France
696 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2004 :  21:08:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...Oh and by the way Frank Black Conspiracy, have you tried Pere Ubu?

HW
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2004 :  03:57:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hWolsky

...Oh and by the way Frank Black Conspiracy, have you tried Pere Ubu?

HW



My brothers friend (yep, the one who lent me Trompe all those years back) is bringing me some Ubu up this weekend. Can't wait to listen. I will definately let you know as soon as the songs have sunk in and I can sort of make a judgement on them. Not that they need to be judged by moi.
Frank sometimes takes me some listens so I will do them justice by taking my time and repeat repeat repeat.

Minds, yes! but how many fingers am I holiding up?

Edited by - frank black conspiracy on 12/03/2004 03:58:47
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Rauck_stah
- FB Fan -

USA
16 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2004 :  05:31:43  Show Profile  Visit Rauck_stah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There is a musician named Warren Haynes who plays in the Allman Bros Band, and his own band Gov't Mule. Now, he sometimes plays solo acoustic shows (or at least he used to), as an opening act before HIS band(s) would get up and play THEIR songs. I'm sorry if this is an obscure reference for some people. But it's the best I could think of. So anyway, I think it would be an awesome idea if Frank did the same thing. Play solo as the opening act before his band goes on. Genius.

Or how about a double bill with FB& The Catholics, and the Pixies?

"We don't know what we're talking about" -Bad Harmony, FB
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2004 :  04:28:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seeing Daves' magic act would be pretty cool. It would definately get the crowd in good spirits. Plus some heckles too: "WE WANT MONKEY!"
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