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comatose22
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11 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2004 :  22:58:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey guys, don't mean to bum you out, but I have been a huge Frank Black fan for many years. This is my first post, and I am seeking some help. I have a support system, but it has not been enough. I do not know where else to turn. I have alcohol probelems. My best friend got three DUI's and has been alcohol free for 2 years. I continue to ask him how he does it, and ask him for help. But he alone cannot help me. So, although it is laim, I am seeking help from the Frank Black frorum. The only thing I can think of that can get me sober, is the love for music. Unfortunately, music is part of the reason for my problems. Out of curiousity, is there any members whom can enjoy their lives and music without the toxic effects of alcohol? I am stuck in a rut. I need help. I am 26 years old, and old I feel. I have half of my life and then some ahead of me, and it is up to me what to do with it. Why waste my life? Trust me, I have done enough partying to last a life time. How do I stop? How can one enjoy life without ruining it? Yes, I am being sappy right now. And yes, I believe that one should party and have fun. But, when it rules ones life, life is all we have. I want to be around for awhile. I want to hear Frank untill I pass. It is you, forum members that I seek adivice. Sorry for bringing you down into my world, and for an excessively long message. Help Me.
Comatose22. "Happy are my mind and my soul and my heart".

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  02:00:28  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I can enjoy any music(I like in the first place) without alcohol.
And I believe anyone can
you too



"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf"
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  04:13:49  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I can enjoy any music with alcohol and only good music without alcohol. But this isn't helping you much, is it?

OK, let's just say that you should hang around with people who are sober, and make some projects in you life.



I’m not sure what this could mean / I don’t think you’re what you seem / I do admit to myself / That if I hurt someone else / Then we’d never see just what we’re meant to be
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  04:46:07  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Comatose-
If you really love music, REALLY love it, you don't need alcohol to enjoy it. Everything is relative, and if you have often (for years) associated getting drunk w/ going out w/ hearing music w/ smoking cigarettes...etc. etc., these mental habits are very hard to break out of.
Occupy your time with hobbies...and yes, Adnan is right, you really need to minimize your hang-out time w/ people who drink or have a propensity for binge drinking. It's really difficult because it might mean losing a friend or two, but if you are serious about your proposed life-style change, this is the only option (at least until you have mustered up enough self-control to not be fazed by their actions.)

It's not an easy thing, but if you fully envelop yourself in hobbies, work, romantic relations, and the like...maybe you'll find that there is no more time for haphazard alcohol consumption.

I wish you the best of luck.
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black fender
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28 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  09:07:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey

dont know if this will help but dont just love the music my friend...play it
i dont know you but if you dont already, do now..do asap.....get ya self a cheap acoustic 6 string and throw yaself into the world of frank and the flying pixies.
man theres so much out there to learn..time will soon disappear and a passion reborn.

like i say, dont just love and listen, man you can play along with frank in your own world. love the music.
learn the music. be the music.

good luck my friend. always here.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -

USA
1728 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  12:58:08  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Excellent tip, black fender! The joy you get from knowing that you can create music is amazing. Very fun and time-consuming!

"Join the Cult of Gunn / And Then You'll Be Destined to be a Rock and Roll Star of Epical Proportions!"
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black fender
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28 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  13:42:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
why thank you mr setlist! twas from the heart. music is my life. and my guitars my bread and water.

whenever you back comatose i can sorta relate (sorry for those i may bore)
last week me and my grrl found out she is pregnant. totally mind blowing. totally unplanned. she my inspiration, for the next few months shes given up the skunk the booze and fgs for the sake of our little one. i'm gonna join her but its taking time. been in my little party bubble for far too long and this is a reality check. man i'm gonna be a dad. i'm scared shitless but i know in the end all will be ok. surrounded by my geetars and the urge to play and belt ouut classics like letter to memphis along with the pixies is a rush only us wannabe musicians can understand. its the best. anyone can play guitar, just let it overtake you, believee me, it will. you have no choice. its outta your control. thats the best drug ever.
give it ago. nothing to lose, you can only gain. and you have the best influences ever. thats why your here.
let me know what you thinks when you can

hey crouton, do you use any software to record (cubase?) got me a four track.
so fascinated by home recording.

in nine months time i'm gettin a charles thompson of my very own. or a little kim. how cool.
life works in mysterious ways. these things are here to let us know we're alive in this war torn planet of ours

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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -

USA
1728 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  14:33:50  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just got a four track late last year, too. A little digital Boss one. I use Cool Edit Pro, mainly. It's a lot simpler and easier to use than most other programs. Makes editing a breeze, hehe. What equipment do you have? I just have 2 guitars, my 4-track, and an sm-57, hahaha. Ooh, also a Whirlwind EDB1 Direct Box (see picture). That helps a lot...it's nice for an in your face sound.



"Join the Cult of Gunn / And Then You'll Be Destined to be a Rock and Roll Star of Epical Proportions!"
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  14:37:58  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aah, Protools all the way...


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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -

USA
1728 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  14:45:00  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I find Protools to be over-rated, actually...Over-rated and extremely over-priced...n-Track Studio on the other hand...

http://www.fasoft.com/ rocks. n-Track is wonderful. Download it, use it, love it.

"Join the Cult of Gunn / And Then You'll Be Destined to be a Rock and Roll Star of Epical Proportions!"
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  14:49:40  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You just don't like it cos you're jealous and you want it. But you haven't got your money-printing machine working so you can't have it. I'm in the same situation.
I'm currently working with a palm-top Zoom 3-track, mm-mmm.


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DeBased
- FB Fan -

USA
118 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2004 :  21:49:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Comatose, There's a lot of good advice above. Your friend has been sober 2 years, this person will be a great resource for you. The first year can be very hard, do not try to do it all by yourself. Get that support going before you really need it. There are AA meetings in every city, and they provide some of the best support and info anywhere for free. You will need a lot of information. Like others said above, you are going to need to change who you hang out with and where. Make new friends with people who love music but don't use, it would be easy to meet people in AA. Learning to play is a great idea! I was a little older than you when I started playing bass, and if I can do it you can too, believe me. It is really just another way to enjoy music, and you get in deep with it. People who drink will probably not support that you are quitting. But you are doing the right thing, so good for you. After the first 2-3 months your health will improve and you won't feel so old anymore. 26 is a great age to be. Please do get help from AA, this is not all about doing it yourself or just willpower. Be well!

the method...of stop tap spin, no talkin'...
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1036 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2004 :  00:48:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Comatose,

Like Black Fender suggested, pick up an instrument and learn how to play. Maybe look to find official help, like AA or something. If there's anyone in your family who could help, go to them. You don't need any kind of drug to appreciate music. Anyway, I wish you good luck and hope you can kick your problem.

Good luck!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2004 :  09:38:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You need the love of a good woman.

Me too!!!

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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