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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2004 :  08:11:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frankly, smoking has progressed so far in history now, that you can't do anything about it without making smokers spaz out. It's too late to do anything about it now, government. Government, if you put a national ban on smoking now, how will they be cool anymore? You will take away the smokers' feeling of security, causing age-old emotions of an adolescent's needing to fit in to stir up.

Ahh...I'm just kidding ya smokers.

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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2004 :  08:45:46  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I donīt smoke anymore and find it quite revolting (like many exsmokers whoīve rubberbanded to the other extreme) but as regards the smoking ban in my home country (Ireland) which I hear is coming in about now, I donīt feel I or anyone else has the authority to tell others what they can or canīt do. Trouble is when you start throwing walls up and making rules in a patriarchal society, you end up drawing the line in a pretty totalitarian place. Anyone else feel this way?


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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2004 :  10:58:16  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting point about making smoking legal in all places..


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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2004 :  21:40:15  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Problem is, everybody's teeth are already yellow!
How is SA, btw? I'm planning a trip there next month.


Sorry about about going way off topic here. I'll just quickly reply to the question above.

SA is a brilliant place. I guess you have already booked your trip if it is happening next month? Cape Town is the most beautifull with great beaches, mountains and wine farms. Great restaurants as well, just watch out for the expensive touristy ones at the V&A Waterfront.

The next popular place is Kruger National Park. It is a massive place with huge elephants, lions, buffalo etc. walking around freely. Just remember malaria prophylaxis, we've had lots of rain and there might be lots of mosquitoes. Consult a travel clinic. Oh yeah, if your'e driving there avoid doing so at night.

Johannesburg/ Pretoria (where I live) is not a favorite tourist destination. Up here we work, work, work. The engine room of the country. There are a few museums about, good cinemas if you're into films and great restaurants.

I'm sure you've been warned that we have a huge problem with crime. So just remember to keep your eyes open. And if you're driving be warned that we have some of the worst drivers in the world.

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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2004 :  06:22:18  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I noticed an article today saying the Leeds University have lifted a smoking ban in the 5 pubs and 3 nite-clubs on campus because they lost Ģ26,000 in the first 13 days of the ban being enforced.
thats pretty crazy - as in the amount of money they lost, but the ban was only in place before 7pm!

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91059-13009894,00.html

i can understand that though, cause we would always go to the student pub at lunch times for a pint or 2, and it was always smoky as hell...




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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2004 :  10:33:50  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How would a nightclub lose $$ if the ban is only before 7pm?


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gk128
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USA
129 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2004 :  05:45:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As my Mom's boyfriend put it "I don't want to be breathing in that shit while I'm trying to ruin my liver."

This was of course sarcastic, and refering to a bar. However it makes a good point.



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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  03:32:40  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
was just reading a thing on the BBC newsite about a poll they did where 73% of respondants want a ban on smoking in all public places as a way to cut tobacco-related illness...
in England, that is....
am suprised that it's so high.
and i must say, pleased too.

but i don't think the survey is the most comprehensive and statistically robust survey ever done, but nonetheless.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3561483.stm


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thermoplastics
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33 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2004 :  18:06:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what a bunch of puritanical do-gooders. The main argument used to ban smoking involve a safe working enviroment. OSHA, which sets all legal standards for toxins in a work place, cant seem to find one for second hand smoke. For every other workplace toxin they have a number---why not for smoking? The reason is junk science. These are the smae people who predicted a nuclear winter (now global warming) and overpopulation by 1990!!!
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2004 :  09:57:01  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
heh - i don't know if you're trying to be funny Mel, but in Canada (and presumably the UK) it's costing the gov't an arm and a leg to treat people with related cancers...i really don't think they're making very much on the sales.


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