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floop
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  11:05:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm curious what people like so much about scones .. to me they're bland, dry and annoying looking. why would i consciously chose to have a scone when i can have a muffin, or a cinnamon roll, or a donut? can someone explain to me how scones are not pointless?

bedrock_barney
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  11:27:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nothing wrong with a freshly baked scone with some Cornish clotted cream and homemade strawberry jam. You're doing it all wrong Floop, my man.


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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  11:32:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Voila!




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Carolynanna
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  11:53:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mmmmm clotted cream
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  11:58:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm fucking drooling here!!!

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Johnny Yen
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  12:45:31  Show Profile  Visit Johnny Yen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My exgirlfriend made scones that were triangularly-shaped, so they had 3 points. They were also quite lemon-y and buttery, and could kick the shit out of muffins any day of the week.

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floop
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  12:51:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
that, admittedly, looks pretty good. i suppose the clotted cream and jam would offset the dry-as-a-cats-ass element.. ?

i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. but i have to say, of all the scones i've had in my life, maybe like 1 of them was half-good.

that's not a good ratio.
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  12:52:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mmmm yeah accesorized scones are the mutts nuts,but they're definately too dry just to have on their own,even with my afternoon tea after a long spiffing game of croquet


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PixieSteve
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  13:15:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
floop, you have your scones with nothing on them? at least butter or margarine dude!
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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  15:26:11  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
With a really fine cup of tea.
OOOOh.
The taste of summer, my man.


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gary13th
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  16:39:03  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
earl grey tea and scones....clotted cream.....yum...


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apl4eris
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  20:06:21  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There are some good recipes for scones, floop - and even some premade mixes - that are actually not dry. I'll be damned if I can remember the brand.
That picture up there is killin me. You brits have a good thing with that afternoon tea. I miss the farmer's white toasting bread I used to but there too. With the flour-er-ery crust, it toasts so perfectly-ly. ummm. and fresh butter and marmalade.... and Earl Grey...mmmm grumble grumble grumble <stomach eats itself>


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benji
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  02:20:36  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
two things:
1: floop, you need to try some different varieties. my favourite types of scones are cheese scones or savoury scones - they're just the bees knees.
and are always moist....beautiful. no need for any condiments - apart from the obligatory butter that is.

try these:
Edmonds Cheese Scones

3 cups flour
4 1/2 teaspoons baking powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
pinch cayenne pepper
1/2 cup grated cheese
about 1 cup milk

Sift dry ingredients, add cheese and mix to a light dough with the milk. Turn onto a floured board, knead, roll out and cut. Place on an oven tray. Bake 10 minutes, 215 degrees C.

I like to add a little curry powder to the dry ingredients. I also put some extra cheese on top of the scones. Ovens vary and I like to cook my scones a bit longer – another five minutes or so.



2: the british do not know how to make good bread....well atleast none that i have had. it's always stale and never toasts correctly, but the worst thing is that you cannot use it for the beauty that is banana sandwiches because the bread is just not soft and fresh enough.
and also, where is the good wholegrain breads? they just don't seem to exist...it's either white (semi-yuck) or wholemeal (mega-yuck)....it is a constant source of homesickness for me.

*rant over*


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bedrock_barney
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  02:42:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
benji, you need to hunt down a decent deli. Forget supermarkets. I bought a fantastic rye and walnut loaf yesterday. Very tasty with some Montgomery Cheddar (unpastuerised) and some decent pickle. Food fit for the Gods.

The whole world is dumbing down but you can still find good products if you know where to look.


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benji
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  02:50:48  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
barney,
i have to admit one of the things i haven't spent a great deal of time hunting down is some good bread, but i think thats going to have to change......i guess i'm finding it just a bit hard to adjust from being able to get mega-fresh and tasty bread even from the local dairy.

and goddam good condiments can make or break a good sandwich...i am a chutney fiend - my current favorite is the spicy gooseberry chutney....very yummy.

now that i think about it, i should have nabbed some bread from the Hampshire Farmers Market i went to in Winchester on Sunday. We picked up a free range organic stuffed pork belly roast for £3.50 and it was honestly one of the nicest things i have ever eaten.
man i love famers markets!

opps, getting off-topic...


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PixieSteve
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  08:09:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what bread have you been eating? i haven't really had much bread to compare british bread to, but it seems fine to me..
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benji
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  08:19:42  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was comparing British bread to that back home in New Zealand.

I'm just being countriest thats all.


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PixieSteve
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  09:11:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol, no, i mean what type/brand/etc. of british bread?
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mereubu
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  09:15:32  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Floop honey, I think that you must just be getting some stale scones. (If they're the coffee shop variety, then that's quite possible.) If you make them yourself & smother them in butter & jam, they're yummmy.


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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  09:25:08  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If you toast the insides just a bit to melt the butter and then put jam on them, basically what Merubu said. It´s gotta have currants too.

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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  10:15:19  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Benji! You went to Winchester! I'm from Winchester!
I'ev never got around to the market though, but it looks gooood.


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floop
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Posted - 03/04/2004 :  01:31:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mereubu

Floop honey, I think that you must just be getting some stale scones. (If they're the coffee shop variety, then that's quite possible.) If you make them yourself & smother them in butter & jam, they're yummmy.


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first off, baking my own scones is out of the equation. i'm talking about scones you buy at coffee shops or pastry shops..

and i'm not talking about Starbucks scones.. i've had scones from well-respected, specialty pastry shops, or coffee shops that have good pastry slections, and every single one of them has tasted like ass, to me.

not only are they ridiculously dry, but they have absolutely no taste..

i see your point about putting butter and jam on them. but then, doesn't almost anything taste good with butter and jam?

all i'm saying is.. if i'm an on the go situation and i'm buying something to go with my coffee, why should i chose a dry, ass-tasting scone when i can have a muffin or a donut or coffee cake?

i'm trying to be open-minded, but for now i stand by my anti-scone stance.

in a world of Krispy Kreme, vast muffin selections, and gigantic cinnamon rolls, are scones not superfluous?
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benji
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Posted - 03/04/2004 :  01:57:30  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

lol, no, i mean what type/brand/etc. of british bread?



ah....

i dunno..i've tried bread from all the major supermarkets etc, and has been very hit and miss.
i can't remember brands.....
recommendations?

also who's the idiot who came up with the idea of making the bread bag just a big picture of baked beans?
i cannot understand that....



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benji
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Posted - 03/04/2004 :  02:04:57  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Benji! You went to Winchester! I'm from Winchester!
I'ev never got around to the market though, but it looks gooood.



mrcheese...definitely go to the farmers market...
it was brilliant.
there's just so much incredibly yummy food there you don't even know where to begin.
i simply could not recommend it enough.
i could go on and on and on about it, but i won't....just make sure you go!

winchester was a nice wee place too.
and man is that cathedral big...you'd think someone important lived nearby...

but man, was it cold.
we had to spend most of the afternoon in the pub (sob) because it was simply too cold to be outside.....but meant we got to watch the carling cup final - somehow my wife even suggested it.....i was concerned for her welfare from that point on.

you don't live there now do ya, you're a north london fella aren't ya?


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PixieSteve
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Posted - 03/04/2004 :  09:10:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
haha yeah, and the cucumber bag too. that's hovis, they're probably the best everyday supermarket bread, if you haven't tried. i really don't know much about bread quality though :) Good luck in finding bread/scones you like!
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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 03/04/2004 :  10:23:47  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
North London, thats me. Winchester's lovely, but there's not a lot to do if you live there permanently. It does seem to be the world centre of all things traditionally English, bringing us back to scones...

Which pub did you go to? I'm trying to remember which ones show the footy.

By the way, the cathedral is the longest in Europe. Take that Adnan!


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shineoftheever
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Posted - 10/12/2012 :  20:34:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*bump*

i like scones; specially with real butter and strawberry jam


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trobrianders
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Posted - 10/12/2012 :  23:40:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

in a world of Krispy Kreme, vast muffin selections, and gigantic cinnamon rolls, are scones not superfluous?


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You need to resolve to enjoy a scone!

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Llamadance
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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  08:00:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

what bread have you been eating? i haven't really had much bread to compare british bread to, but it seems fine to me..



What ever happened to PixieSteve? Bet he enjoys a nice fruit scone.

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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  09:39:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


mrcheese...definitely go to the farmers market...
it was brilliant.




Farmers Markets are great! I always try to pick up as many vegetables and assorted foods as I can. I may have eaten a scone once, I'm not sure, it didn't make much of an impression. In my experience, most coffee shop pastry isn't very good.
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floop
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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  12:07:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
still pretty much feel the same way about scones.

maybe one of you high-falutin Brits can send me one
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coastline
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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  13:53:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does scone rhyme with dawn or phone?
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shineoftheever
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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  16:27:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sounds like a business opportunity:

a good scone shop in LA could probably bring in a pretty penny....or maybe a scone truck, haha

i pronounce it like pwn as in you've been scwned, hope that clears it up....


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trobrianders
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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  22:06:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dawn??? That's weird. Never heard that. Hell hath no fury like a woman sconed?

In UK at least it's don or phone. And either btw is fine.

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Llamadance
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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  22:34:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I pronounce scone like "dawn" - pronouncing it like phone just sounds wrong and a bit posh

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trobrianders
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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  22:45:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry Llama, you're right. I limited my thinking to England south and north.

A bit posh? Well I guess that's how Mish Moneypenny would say it. And Sean would say 'The name's Bawned, James Bawned'.

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