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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =

USA
725 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2004 :  12:48:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Saddam was filling the sand with hundreds of thousands of murdered eh? OK, lets look at some of these famous mass-murders. It appears he often used chemical weapons, according to an american government website"

What is your point? Make one please. Are you saying Saddam didnt murder those people? The US did? Are you drunk? You dont even have certainty of your own half-baked assertions. "probably" got it from the US? You go read Blix, really read it. He didnt couch his terms in anything less than certain language. Remember him in the UN "we are close to discovering WMD's, we need more time". What a LIAR! That SOB misled the entire world! Now look what has happened! Saddam lost his despot! What a sicko!

Also, how childish to invoke FB in this discussion. Get some perspective on life man. Charles Thompson is a performer, he makes transcendant music. It doesnt reach people who have a singular view of the world, only a simpleton would think it did.
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2004 :  12:55:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

Here goes... You suck, Dallas. It actually makes me physically sick that a fellow fan of Frank Black can be this ignorant. I'm not sure how Frank would feel about me involving him though.

Remarks like these are really uncalled for, and pretty sad.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2004 :  12:58:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why did you quote a part of my post that hadn't yet made a point, cimply because I hadn't gotten to it yet, and then claim I hadn't made a point? LOL. Also, why did you completely ignore the content of my argument and only target my use of the word "probably" (did you not take any notice of the style of my argument?). You then, it appears, tell me to take some notes on Blix's accurate and certain use of language, but then call him a liar and a son of a bitch. I don't know what to do now!
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2004 :  13:01:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

Here goes... You suck, Dallas. It actually makes me physically sick that a fellow fan of Frank Black can be this ignorant. I'm not sure how Frank would feel about me involving him though.

Remarks like these are really uncalled for, and pretty sad.



What, stating that I feel physically sick that someone, especially someone who I thought had a decent taste in music, could express opinions like his. I was not trying to say that only people who are anti-war like Frank Black. But I did think that most Frank Black fans would be able to argue about the actual points I've made rather than minor side comments like that. If you're so upset, I'm sorry, but in reality you are the sad person.


I joined the Cult of Pi / Because it's cool
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1340 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2004 :  16:54:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But hey, look on the brightside, I changed the title. Isn't it snappy and sooooo witty.

I hate america (or how I stopped worrying and learned to love america)

You have to love me.

I shall take no further part in this topic, because I don't know whats going on. Seems a case of non of you really know what your talking about, only people who do make lots and lots of money.



I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.

*Adapted By Carolynanna*
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2004 :  18:11:02  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

BTW, I'm not acting like the country I live in, or I myself are defenders of the peace, given the chance we're just as bad. Except America has been a super power for decades now, it is far more powerful than britain or whatever, and has been commiting far worse crimes, acts of terrorism and aggression, etc. in the past few decades. One might argue that for a super power, they're not as bad as they could be. That doesn't mean it should be acceptable... they're still wankers :P

American actions occurring prior to the fall of the Soviet Union need to be understood in the context of the Cold War, which is not to say that all such actions would thereby stand excused. If the European cultures of the world spent a rational amount on defense, the USA would not need to be a super power. Without the USA as super power, the power would be Chinese and then the whiners would actually have something to complain about.



I really think that people over-estimate the Chinese... The Chinese are not as aggressive as the western nations, certainly nowhere near as bad as the US or the UK. Human rights wise it might be different, but on the world stage I don't think that China would be worse than the US if the US weren't a superpower. Other than say Tibet, and the Taiwan issue the Chinese are generally not war mongers. When was the last time the Chinese won a war?? I guess you can say WW2 against the Japanese, but then most of the work had been done by the Allies in the Pacific (and in any case they were defending their country from the Japanese occuptation). I suppose you could argue that the Chinese fought in the Korean War, as a million or so called Chinese 'volunteers' flooded across the border to join forces with the Korean communist forces against the US army (and even then that turned out to a stalemate).

If the US weren't around I really don't think it would be the Chinese who dominated and terrorized. But then again who knows?

Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
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