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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  05:31:29  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Frank Black is on the frontpage in the dutch version of the free newspaper 'Metro'. I've got to tell you that the newspaper got 1 million readers, so it's pretty darn huge. I know it isn't a real newspaper (it's a free one you get handed out in the subway, that's why it's called 'Metro), but a lot of people read it. He mentioned on the frontpage with a picture, and then the real story is on page 18, I will translate this tomorrow, because I'm going to Radiohead today.

here's a link to see it yourself
http://www.clubmetro.nl/content/acrobat/amsterdam/NLAMS_20031119_A_Metro.pdf

acrobate reader required

the real story is on page 16 of PDF file and also has a picture with it!

FB never gets that sort of attention in the dutch press, I love this!




"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"

bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2003 :  05:35:06  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
look forward to translation! going to see radiohead myself on saturday! saw them in, erm, 96 i think? just after ok computer was released (one of the best albums of all time imo), was fantastic... not so sure about their stuff since then, so will be interesting.

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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7442 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2003 :  06:14:48  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mmmm... Strangely, when I opened the pdf file, Frank's photo isn't the first one that I noticed. Why is that?

Thanks for the link and thanks in advance for the translation. We have Metro here too, I'll check it out next week to see if they talk about him before the Paris gig.


Denis

"In the Cult of Frank/You don't even get backstage passes"
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2003 :  06:22:03  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
the same paper is distributed in the athens metro too.maybe because germans and french built it.i must admit that the german version is cooler since they put fb in front page...


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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2003 :  08:15:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they have a metro in the uk too.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2003 :  00:43:24  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
they have it all over the world




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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2003 :  12:01:42  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Damn, no mention of the website.

heh..now i'm expecting to see it everywhere..hahahahaha
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2003 :  13:40:11  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Where is our translation, lovely BG? And how was Radiohead?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2003 :  23:28:48  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Radiohead was great, truly great, as for the translation
I'm a bit sick (since the concert) so I'll do it as soon as I get better




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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2003 :  06:01:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dang, I just got the EIN single and it came wrapped in the Metro. Why couldn't he have sent it in that one?


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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2003 :  11:57:26  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
''There's something satisfying in embracing cliché's''

People who have been paying atention, saw it coming:
Frank Black, who had succes with his alt. rock band the Pixies, shifts more and more
towards rootsy music like blues and country. It's very clear on his latest, surprisingly strong
record 'Show me you tears'

Metro: Where does this growing interest in country come from?

FB: Well, I bought some country shirts and boots lately, so there you go. And two people in my band play pedal steel, so you sound country very soon.

Metro: Does the pain in your personal life make it easier to play country? It is a genre that's traditionally full of pain and sadness

FB: That's a cliché, but I do live up to it. And it's a personal record, yes. I have always expressed myself into my music, but in a more abstract way. I like to be less abstract these days. There were some roadsongs on my last record Black Letter Days. That's a cliché too. There's something satisfying in embracing cliché's.

Metro: You record your records on two-track for awhile, all live, no overdubs. That seems a quick way to work: play and it's on tape in one take.

Frank Black:That only seems to be the case. We had to play some songs a hundred times before they were record OK. A big rocker like 'Massife Centrale' was easy to write and record, but we had to work very long on a 'simple' song like 'The Snake'. There are 5 people in the band and we rented more musicians so we could use them when there's a overdub normally. I don't want it to sound very sloppy or lo-fi or unfinished. We try to sound as produced as possible within the boundaires of the two tracks. It pushes you to play good. It's also a good rehearsal for shows.

Metro: Do you find it hard that you will never be as popular as with the pixies?

Frank Black: No, not at all. People want to consume mass-products. They want McDonalds and Starbucks. What can you do about it? Make a law to forbid Starbucks? No, it doesn't hurt me at all.

Metro: Do you play pixies songs live?

Frank Black: Yeah, there are about ten songs in our repertiore and there are always some of them on the setlist.



After this not so groundbreaking interview there's a bit about the reunion of the pixies, which the author would like. But he says: untill it will happen we can survive easily with 'Show me your tears'.




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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2003 :  23:19:57  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the translation!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2003 :  00:12:34  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
you're welcome




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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2003 :  06:35:32  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"I like to be less abstract these days."

But Frank, we like living on an abstract plain!

Thanks, Jop, btw.


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2003 :  12:17:15  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"There are 5 people in the band and we rented more musicians so we could use them when there's a overdub normally." -FB

Am I the only one who is surprised that this is so? Rented musicians?

P.S. En dank u zeer voor de vertaling Mijnheer Bill!!

Edited by - apl4eris on 11/24/2003 12:19:00
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
819 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2003 :  12:36:15  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't understand how that's a surprise; you gotta get 'em somewhere in order to record this way.

Nothing is ever something.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2003 :  12:44:32  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok, but I still feel kinda weird about it (that's my problem, and I'll get over it) - are they (the rented musicians) listed in the liner notes? is this a common practice? Ach - sorry, I didn't realize this was comon knowledge. meep!

Edited by - apl4eris on 11/24/2003 12:45:16
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2003 :  13:20:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very nice work, Jop! Thanks a lot for the translation.

I wonder if the interviewer asked Frank if the rumours were true. It would have been quite silly for him not to ask. And if so, why isn't there anything about it in the interview? Did Frank ask him not to kill the buzz?

Oh well, maybe he just declined to comment.


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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2003 :  15:13:38  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
apl4eris, your dutch is good!

and no there wasn't anything about the reunion in the interview, just some thoughts by the author.

and yes the interview did say 'rented' musicians. I knew it was going to be something that was going to be discussed, but I look twice and the text said 'huren' which means renting. It's very obvious he has to pay them, but I can imagine some people will play for free as long as the can play with him




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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2003 :  17:36:17  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by apl4eris

Ok, but I still feel kinda weird about it (that's my problem, and I'll get over it) - are they (the rented musicians) listed in the liner notes? is this a common practice? Ach - sorry, I didn't realize this was comon knowledge. meep!



Well, Frank says there are five people in the band - so I am guessing the "rented" people consist of Stan Ridgeway, Joey Santiago, Eric Drew Feldman, etc. who are billed as "additional musicians" in the liner notes. I think it IS common practice to have other people play on your records...is it just the term "rented" that you object to?
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2003 :  18:54:58  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ramona
I think it IS common practice to have other people play on your records...is it just the term "rented" that you object to?
Oh no! not at all! I read it as them renting some unnamed studio musicians just to fill out the extra parts - it was the "stranger" "studio musician" interpretation I had that I was weirded out by. oops.
Sorry to cause a ruckus! ;) I understand who they were now (just the guys in the liner notes, not extras). Boy, do I feel dumb
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2003 :  10:28:44  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh, don't feel dumb. I understand whatchur sayin.
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dancingonyourfacebear
- FB Fan -

USA
18 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:41:50  Show Profile  Visit dancingonyourfacebear's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Frank once left a DANCING BEAR on my lawn....dance dance little bear!!!


NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF!
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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =

USA
915 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:51:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
somebody's pulling a Grizwald, I think

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2004 :  10:25:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I worked in Holland for a time and I remember getting that Metro paper on the train....ther was another free 'train' paper that I can't remember the name of....

CARL.

"ME TOO!"
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2004 :  14:44:40  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
those dots at the end of carls post are unmistakenly waiting for me.

The other free paper is called 'Spits', (which is the dutch term for 'rush hour')



"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf"

Edited by - billgoodman on 02/27/2004 03:16:15
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 02/26/2004 :  10:01:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alright! I think a friend brought some issues home.

CARL.

"ME TOO!"
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