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rivum
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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 Posted - 08/12/2022 : 11:46:38
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I was listening to Trompe on the way home from work yesterday and, as I was listening to Space (I Believe In), I started thinking about how interesting it would be to hear that as the opening song at a pixies show. If I heard that I would have no idea what to expect next....
so today I trotted off to setlist.fm to see if it has ever been played and they have no record of it.
got me thinking which other songs you'd like to hear at a show which haven't been played much or at all before. and where in the setlist should they be placed?? |
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rivum
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
265 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 11:48:34
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actaully, Space seems to be the only song from Trompe they haven't played (unless a show it was played at wasn't logged)...
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
3142 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 11:59:48
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I believe it was never played live
Benji and other forum members can probably confirm |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
1334 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 12:01:56
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| The money I'd shell out if I *knew* Space (I believe in) was guaranteed to be on the setlist. |
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
3142 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 12:19:01
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| I think there is a thread (maybe I started it?) on what is the oldest 1.0 songs played the least. I think it’s the ones from side two of SR, minus WIMM, Cactus, and Brick of course |
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1670 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 16:43:24
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| Could be fun to hear them put Manta Ray in a setlist. Also from Bossonova- All Over the World as well as Dig for Fire. I think Dig for Fire was a single back in the day so I'm not sure why they've skipped over that one in recent years. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 22:35:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Skatealex1
Could be fun to hear them put Manta Ray in a setlist. Also from Bossonova- All Over the World as well as Dig for Fire. I think Dig for Fire was a single back in the day so I'm not sure why they've skipped over that one in recent years.
Maybe it's too hard for them to play?
Because it's clearly a beautiful song
This goes for Dig for Fire and Space
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
471 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2022 : 00:25:35
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By my reckoning, during the 2.0 era I've seen them play everything (not including the tribute album stuff etc.) but these:
All Over The World
The Happening
Blown Away
Hang Wire
Stormy Weather
Trompe Le Monde
Palace Of The Brine
Letter To Memphis
Bird Dream Of The Olympos Mons
Space (I Believe In)
Lovely Day
The Navajo Know
Make Believe
I've Been Waiting For You
The Thing
Santo
Theme From Narc
Evil Hearted You
Ring The Bell
Another Toe In The Ocean
Jaime Bravo
Of those, I think Blown Away and Hang Wire have been played although quite rarely and Another Toe had an outing during the IC era. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2022 : 07:53:31
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Stormy Weather was played too
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2022 : 07:58:35
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Stuff like Hang Wire, Lovely Day, Palace, Memphis...how can you skip those?
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1670 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2022 : 21:38:34
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Originally posted by billgoodman
quote:
Originally posted by Skatealex1
Could be fun to hear them put Manta Ray in a setlist. Also from Bossonova- All Over the World as well as Dig for Fire. I think Dig for Fire was a single back in the day so I'm not sure why they've skipped over that one in recent years.
Maybe it's too hard for them to play?
Because it's clearly a beautiful song
This goes for Dig for Fire and Space
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Hear that. I could see some of those being tricky to play too. |
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
471 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2022 : 06:44:55
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| They are professional musicians, there's nothing in their back catalogue that couldn't be re-arranged a little to suit their current line-up. They've pretty much stopped using Paz' foot pedals, which could fill in some of that EDF business. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2022 : 11:56:50
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quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba
By my reckoning, during the 2.0 era I've seen them play everything (not including the tribute album stuff etc.) but these:
All Over The World
The Happening
Blown Away
Hang Wire
Stormy Weather
Trompe Le Monde
Palace Of The Brine
Letter To Memphis
Bird Dream Of The Olympos Mons
Space (I Believe In)
Lovely Day
The Navajo Know
Make Believe
I've Been Waiting For You
The Thing
Santo
Theme From Narc
Evil Hearted You
Ring The Bell
Another Toe In The Ocean
Jaime Bravo
Of those, I think Blown Away and Hang Wire have been played although quite rarely and Another Toe had an outing during the IC era.
'Blown Away' gets played now and then on most tours, going back to 2004. I don't think 'Hang Wire' has been played at all - which is mad, really!
I don't dislike 'Another Toe in the Ocean' as much as some, but the production is horrible and the song goes on for far too long. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2022 : 12:41:23
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"I don't dislike 'Another Toe in the Ocean' as much as some, but the production is horrible and the song goes on for far too long"
This is so true. One of the head scratchers on that record.
How on earth would you decide to go into yet another chorus.
Vocals sound afwul too.
And the song is quite good.
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
471 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2022 : 13:28:54
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It felt like Another Toe was the rotation song at the time.
I think you're right about Hang Wire not getting played and I've confused it with Stormy Weather |
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =
471 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2022 : 00:49:22
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| I reckon The Happening with Charles on the acoustic and alternating the overlapping vocals with Paz for that long outro would sound amazing. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2022 : 00:57:48
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Originally posted by stuczuba
I reckon The Happening with Charles on the acoustic and alternating the overlapping vocals with Paz for that long outro would sound amazing.
This is why we need a Bossanova-tour.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1874 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2022 : 00:24:33
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Joey « kind of » answered this back in 2014, i think me or someone else on the forum asked the question (i reposted the interview at the end of the thread). Very short answer.
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21196
Btw many of those songs were played during the 1.0 era with a 2nd rythm guitar player (joeys brother) and often EDF on keyboards.
Dunno if theres some guitar logistics involved, but Palace and Memphis are « Drop D’s » with capos. And Charles would need an extra guitar because you can’t play Palace with a capo on 1st fert on a standard telecaster. Like he did on the 91 tour.
I remember Memphis was on the setlist of a rehearsal during the Kim Shatting Era, but it eventually wasnt played.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2022 : 04:05:05
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quote:
Originally posted by picpic
Joey « kind of » answered this back in 2014, i think me or someone else on the forum asked the question (i reposted the interview at the end of the thread). Very short answer.
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21196
Btw many of those songs were played during the 1.0 era with a 2nd rythm guitar player (joeys brother) and often EDF on keyboards.
Dunno if theres some guitar logistics involved, but Palace and Memphis are « Drop D’s » with capos. And Charles would need an extra guitar because you can’t play Palace with a capo on 1st fert on a standard telecaster. Like he did on the 91 tour.
I remember Memphis was on the setlist of a rehearsal during the Kim Shatting Era, but it eventually wasnt played.
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BF was swapping guitars like crazy in those later shows (and still has a few to choose from at the side of stage in the current run).
Listening to the live recordings from that era (and in the famous 1991 London filmed performance), while Bob's contribution is very welcome, it's often more of a doubling up of the rhythm guitar than a distinct different part. I.e playing acoustic on 'Motorway to Roswell' while Charles plays a Tele.
Letter to Memphis was played without the capo during that era (I prefer the studio version!). Rock Music was also played a semitone lower, for some reason.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2022 : 05:48:53
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quote:
Originally posted by picpic
Joey « kind of » answered this back in 2014, i think me or someone else on the forum asked the question (i reposted the interview at the end of the thread). Very short answer.
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21196
Btw many of those songs were played during the 1.0 era with a 2nd rythm guitar player (joeys brother) and often EDF on keyboards.
Dunno if theres some guitar logistics involved, but Palace and Memphis are « Drop D’s » with capos. And Charles would need an extra guitar because you can’t play Palace with a capo on 1st fert on a standard telecaster. Like he did on the 91 tour.
I remember Memphis was on the setlist of a rehearsal during the Kim Shatting Era, but it eventually wasnt played.
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Wow, amazing to read again. Joey was pretty hard on Kim S.
That was a weird time
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <
3142 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2022 : 12:26:07
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Couldn't open the full interview for some reason but love the quotes.
I like the Kim S. era of 2.0 (Kim 2.0 of 2.0). It seems like they were fast and loose but nervous and weirder than ever in some ways. That one show where they take forever to start playing after taking the stage and finally bust out big new prinze is terrific. |
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
1874 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2022 : 08:24:27
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I wonder if Charles is ashamed of some songs ? I remember him saying he regretted not having rewritten some later 1.0 Pixies songs.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2022 : 09:28:33
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Originally posted by picpic
I wonder if Charles is ashamed of some songs ? I remember him saying he regretted not having rewritten some later 1.0 Pixies songs.
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Yeah, what on earth is that about? Those albums are the best of the bunch.
Only Space has some obvious "I don't know what I can write about, let's sing about this guy Jef over here"-lyrics.
And I really like them as novelty lyrics
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