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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 12/15/2013 :  17:37:28  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/pixies-black-francis-bassist-kim-shattuck-departure-ain-230100264.html

PUERTO RICO PIXIE

johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1301 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2013 :  18:38:19  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"I guess it's a fair question, but what I would say is, just because some shows went well or a recording session went well with somebody, that doesn’t mean that now you guys are married and this is forever. It's not really how it works when you're a band. And it's hard to explain to people, especially if they get emotionally attached to one person."

Jesus!



Dial 1-888-RIB-CAGE for your free Bag Boy instruction manual.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2013 :  18:38:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"I'm not the mayor, this isn't the bus service for a town. This is a rock band. There's been a shift in the lineup, big woop-dee-doo...as far as we're concerned it ain't that big of a deal."

He's right.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2013 :  19:06:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, well, I guess that's that. I'm over it and onboard with Paz. Let's see what happens next.
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Idalgo Clandestino
- FB Fan -

Yugoslavia
104 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2013 :  21:18:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
he may not be the mayor but he is the BURGERMEISTER for sure !
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2013 :  01:45:39  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Paz is the new New Kim! and i'm already on board with the New Paz.

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they were the heroes of old, men of renown.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6217 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2013 :  08:00:47  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

"I'm not the mayor, this isn't the bus service for a town. This is a rock band. There's been a shift in the lineup, big woop-dee-doo...as far as we're concerned it ain't that big of a deal."

He's right.



He's a little bit right

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lofiscifi
- FB Fan -

USA
53 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2013 :  10:56:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
like i said before, i don't think that people were so much upset with the fact that they let her go, i think they were more upset/annoyed with the perceived tactless manner in which it was handled. i'm still looking forward to 2014. let's hope they can keep the train on the tracks.

-=lofiscifi
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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =

405 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2013 :  12:48:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"It ain't that big of a DEAL!", eh?
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2013 :  15:07:54  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lofiscifi

like i said before, i don't think that people were so much upset with the fact that they let her go, i think they were more upset/annoyed with the perceived tactless manner in which it was handled. i'm still looking forward to 2014. let's hope they can keep the train on the tracks.

-=lofiscifi



that's right, lofiscifi. passive aggression is a pet peeve. a Pet Peeve, fellow forum members. not to be taken lightly, those (Pet Peeves, not Forum Members. Forum Members are to be taken with a grain of fissile and a pinch cock (kok), and a whole bunch of pot to make it all that much more fun).

in a perfect world, Shattuck would have been told kindly but directly by the band members that her time as fill-in bassist was up, and i'd have no idea about how any of it went down, nor would i know that i might care.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6217 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2013 :  22:54:31  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lofiscifi

like i said before, i don't think that people were so much upset with the fact that they let her go, i think they were more upset/annoyed with the perceived tactless manner in which it was handled. i'm still looking forward to 2014. let's hope they can keep the train on the tracks.

-=lofiscifi



I agree and this interview makes it even worse.

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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1122 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  00:40:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Initially the whole thing was a bit prickly for me to digest, my biggest fear being the Pixies would go the same way as the Smashing Pumpkins in terms of lineups and credibility but I believe the respect for their legacy and confidence in new material should ensure this doesnt happen.

However, this notion that the musicians/actors/sportspersons/artists we admire certify their iconic status further by being likeable, noble or a role model is laughable.

Their WORK is what I am interested in, not how they interact with people, present themselves or live their lives.

Sex and Drugs has always been synonymous with Rock and Roll, sometimes (curiously) the story is more celebrated than the music itself, the music needs the story as much as the story needs the music - it is beneficial to the artist/media.

I just find it strange there is a need for the people we admire to be likeable, charming and noble...in part celebrity culture demands that.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1874 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  00:46:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let's not forget that Frank is a snake.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6217 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  04:16:46  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
True

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blckfrncs
- FB Fan -

Luxembourg
158 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  04:22:50  Show Profile  Visit blckfrncs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok, friends. Let me say here in these shadowy, discreet halls that no one here really knows or understands the circumstances of the recent events (or any other for that matter). If I'm doing interviews to promote a show and the journo asks me something I have to answer. I don't want to HAVE to issue publicity statements about things that are more appropriate left in private. Many of us issue statements and sentiments via the social networking platforms; it is the modern way; it does not mean that a person has to participate in that conversation that is stated there on this enormous bathroom wall we call the internet. If my band isn't answering the questions on people's minds and this bothers you, ask yourself the following: do Pixies owe me an answer to the burning questions? And, what are my assumptions about the band based on? Do I have all of the information? And to come full circle, if I don't have all the information do The Pixies owe me this precious information? Sometimes a person is willing to appear a fool or an asshole over small things in order to not discuss what is not appropriate to discuss in public. You'll have to take my word for it. And if you don't want to that's ok, I can't do anything about that. People talk a lot of shite, and they don't know of what they speak.

BF
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

296 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  04:28:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blckfrncs

Ok, friends. Let me say here in these shadowy, discreet halls that no one here really knows or understands the circumstances of the recent events (or any other for that matter). If I'm doing interviews to promote a show and the journo asks me something I have to answer. I don't want to HAVE to issue publicity statements about things that are more appropriate left in private. Many of us issue statements and sentiments via the social networking platforms; it is the modern way; it does not mean that a person has to participate in that conversation that is stated there on this enormous bathroom wall we call the internet. If my band isn't answering the questions on people's minds and this bothers you, ask yourself the following: do Pixies owe me an answer to the burning questions? And, what are my assumptions about the band based on? Do I have all of the information? And to come full circle, if I don't have all the information do The Pixies owe me this precious information? Sometimes a person is willing to appear a fool or an asshole over small things in order to not discuss what is not appropriate to discuss in public. You'll have to take my word for it. And if you don't want to that's ok, I can't do anything about that. People talk a lot of shite, and they don't know of what they speak.

BF



Huzzah!
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

2923 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  05:08:18  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There you go people.What happens in the band stays in the band.Intra band business is nobodys business :-) Thanks for the visit Mr.blckfrncs.All the best for Pixies 2014 Tourdates and Future Releases. "I Need Peace" you Got It PEACE = PAZ in spanish :-)

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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DwarfUK
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
18 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  05:33:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blckfrncs

Ok, friends. Let me say here in these shadowy, discreet halls that no one here really knows or understands the circumstances of the recent events (or any other for that matter). If I'm doing interviews to promote a show and the journo asks me something I have to answer. I don't want to HAVE to issue publicity statements about things that are more appropriate left in private. Many of us issue statements and sentiments via the social networking platforms; it is the modern way; it does not mean that a person has to participate in that conversation that is stated there on this enormous bathroom wall we call the internet. If my band isn't answering the questions on people's minds and this bothers you, ask yourself the following: do Pixies owe me an answer to the burning questions? And, what are my assumptions about the band based on? Do I have all of the information? And to come full circle, if I don't have all the information do The Pixies owe me this precious information? Sometimes a person is willing to appear a fool or an asshole over small things in order to not discuss what is not appropriate to discuss in public. You'll have to take my word for it. And if you don't want to that's ok, I can't do anything about that. People talk a lot of shite, and they don't know of what they speak.

BF



To be honest with you I'd say that the vast majority of people that come to this forum would forget about all of this crap as soon as they see EP2 as the top topic. Everything else is just filler
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
514 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  05:51:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To be fair to most at FB.net, i don't think any real fans want the soap opera version (not saying there might have been one, but that's what the publications are salivating about drumming up)

The Mayor\Bus service line is spot on.

all us hungry dogs want is the music
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ChienAndalou22
- FB Fan -

58 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  06:19:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't like to gossip or really bother with what goes on beyond music and show on but to put into perspective any animosity there's this: https://twitter.com/TheMuffs/status/412513568571920384

I think people are too quick to jump to conclusions and look for good guys and bad guys.

Edited by - ChienAndalou22 on 12/17/2013 08:35:43
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6217 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  08:06:13  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The very same virus that makes me want to buy everything related to blckfrncs (that includes buying a record from the coronet premiers from the DITS merch table) makes me want to discuss everything blckfrncs.

It's an obsession. Music comes first of course. And private matters are not for us to fiscuss or obsess about. This whole story falls somewhere in between, I guess.



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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6217 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  08:11:14  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
For my 5000th post I would like to say:

I love all FBF and I'm going where the Burgermeister takes me!

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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
2010 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  10:03:04  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blckfrncs

Ok, friends...
BF


Fair enough !
I think that most of us don't care that much about the bass player situation (I mean I like Kim S but not to the point where I'm angry with the band for letting her go) !
The news just surprised me but nothing more.
It's true you and the band do not owe us any explanation but it would be nice to give us information; i'd rather learn that kind of things from the official Pixies' facebook page instead of Kim S' twitter account.

Anyway what we care about is your music and we're just spoiled brats who are used to get an average of an album a year from you since forever and any news about future releases you could give us would make us very happy !

Edited by - The Holiday Son on 12/18/2013 02:35:35
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1079 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  20:32:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once again, all I can draw the attention on is that the concept of Pop Music became very much boring and annoying in the digital age...

Everyone should try to find Pixies somewhere else and evolve as individuals.
Now, It's REALLY time to go away on holiday.

TchuB


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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1874 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2013 :  21:18:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"blckfrncs
- FB Fan -"

Now that's funny.
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1594 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2013 :  09:52:46  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Happy 5000th, Bill.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2013 :  11:18:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Holiday Son

quote:
Originally posted by blckfrncs

Ok, friends...
BF


Fair enough !
I think that most of us don't care that much about the bass player situation (I mean I like Kim S but not to the point where I'm angry with the band for letting her go) !
The news just surprised me but nothing more.
It's true you and the band do not owe us any explanation but it would be nice to give us information; i'd rather learn that kind of things from the official Pixies' facebook page instead of Kim S' twitter account.

Anyway what we care about is your music and we're just spoiled brats who are used to get an average of an album a year from you since forever and any news about future releases you could give us would make us very happy !




I couldnt agree more. Less stories, more music.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6217 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2013 :  09:52:09  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hammerhands

Happy 5000th, Bill.



Thanks!

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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2013 :  10:27:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Grotesque

quote:
Originally posted by The Holiday Son

quote:
Originally posted by blckfrncs

Ok, friends...
BF


Fair enough !
I think that most of us don't care that much about the bass player situation (I mean I like Kim S but not to the point where I'm angry with the band for letting her go) !
The news just surprised me but nothing more.
It's true you and the band do not owe us any explanation but it would be nice to give us information; i'd rather learn that kind of things from the official Pixies' facebook page instead of Kim S' twitter account.

Anyway what we care about is your music and we're just spoiled brats who are used to get an average of an album a year from you since forever and any news about future releases you could give us would make us very happy !




I couldnt agree more. Less stories, more music.



disagree

green star member since 2006. smb?
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lofiscifi
- FB Fan -

USA
53 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2013 :  11:39:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blckfrncs

...Sometimes a person is willing to appear a fool or an asshole over small things in order to not discuss what is not appropriate to discuss in public.

BF


mission accomplished on that one.

-=lofiscifi
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moonruler
- FB Fan -

USA
209 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2013 :  11:42:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by Grotesque

quote:
Originally posted by The Holiday Son

quote:
Originally posted by blckfrncs

Ok, friends...
BF


Fair enough !
I think that most of us don't care that much about the bass player situation (I mean I like Kim S but not to the point where I'm angry with the band for letting her go) !
The news just surprised me but nothing more.
It's true you and the band do not owe us any explanation but it would be nice to give us information; i'd rather learn that kind of things from the official Pixies' facebook page instead of Kim S' twitter account.

Anyway what we care about is your music and we're just spoiled brats who are used to get an average of an album a year from you since forever and any news about future releases you could give us would make us very happy !




I couldnt agree more. Less stories, more music.



disagree

green star member since 2006. smb?




You're not going to start posting pictures of Kim Deal and various rumors about her, are you?

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“make…some…room”
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =

518 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2013 :  18:15:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow! Black seems kind of testy. Maybe he should do like Gene Simmons and trash his ex band mates? He'll probably feel better.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/gene-simmons-open-to-rock-hall-of-fame-kiss-reunion-with-ace-and-peter-20131217
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2013 :  21:13:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hammerhands
Happy 5000th, Bill.


I agree.
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