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trobrianders
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 Posted - 09/23/2013 : 03:06:55
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Some forum members have shown an interest in what it was like as a fan and seeing them live during Pixies' original run. If any of you were around then please share your memories. I'll reminisce in a later post if this thread doesn't drop from sight but first I want to ask did any of you see them live before you heard them on record and what was that like? I'd only heard the demo versions of Down To The Well and Rock A My Soul before I saw them live so I think I was doubly struck by their songs. Just wondered if any one else had that experience.
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2013 : 10:33:02
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| didn't see them live the first time around, but i remember some funny misconceptions i had about them initially. first contact was through borrowed cassette tapes, first doolittle and surfer, then trompe and bossa. i remember thinking that that was also the right chronological order, based on my impressions of the style of each album; from the more broadly accessible sound to the harder and punkrock stuff, to the more detached and dreamy style. another funny thing in retrospect (mind you, i didn't know anything about the band but the incredible sound of those tapes) is that based on the presence of female vocals in the songs i gathered that there was a female in the band at their beginning but not anymore on the later stuff and i thought that was unfortunate cause i really missed that vocal in some songs... |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 09/23/2013 : 10:48:28
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I discovered FB in '94 and I feel humiliated by this thread.
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 09/23/2013 : 11:52:05
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I had a friend who asked me if I wanted to go to Minneapolis
to see U2, I said no. I didn't know The Pixies were opening.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 09/23/2013 : 12:23:04
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a thread where og Pixies fans get to lord their fan status over newbies?
count me in
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lucmove
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 09/23/2013 : 13:55:10
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Radio was shit in my town in 1989, but I managed to receive this station from another city that played lots of alt pop and rock.
But even the Pixies were too obscure and "alt" for them so they didn't get any airplay except for one weekly show that played some pretty obscure and awesome stuff. One day, that show ended with a bunch of songs from Doolittle performed live. The show host introduced the Pixies as a still relatively unknown but fantastic band that had just released a new album, Doolittle. I THINK the guy even said the record hadn't been released yet, and the live performance was like a preview. Long time ago, so I am not sure.
It really struck me in an odd and good way so I tried to buy it, but buying music was tough business back then. There was no Internet and imported records were expensive and hard to come by. So I was left with no choice for several months when Surfer Rosa was released in my country officially by Eldorado, a label that specialized in releasing names that hardly stood a chance in the mainstream business and would never be released by a major label. This label also released ONE album by Felt, for example. I think I still have it.
I knew it wasn't Doolittle, but I had been really impressed by what I had heard on the radio so I bought it without a blink. When I spun Surfer Rosa for the first time, I was... not happy. What a freaking weird album. It was really raw and... too American. I thought Black Francis sounded like David Byrne, but even more American, a heavy yankee accent. The title song was particularly hard to stomach, all of them chanting ROSA!!! OH-OH-OH ROSA!!! like a bunch of drunk hippies. I felt like I had made a mistake. I was even embarrassed to play that loud, what are the neighbors going to think?
Long story short, that weird record didn't please me at first but it kept haunting me for some strange reason until I just had to listen to the damn thing once again, then again, then again, then again... Alas, I was hooked.
I think Doolittle was released in my country one year later, and I loved it immediately. Oh, the memories... That was like, exactly what I wanted from a band. I could hardly believe that record actually existed. Perfect, just perfect (except for Silver, of course). I remember going to many places with sweet, sweet Doolittle on my Sony walkman. I remember holding and kissing my extremely hot girlfriend on the beach and still thinking about the songs from Doolittle at the same time. One part of the experience just enhanced the other.
Then I discoverd a record store that sold imported records. Expensive as hell. So I got Come On Pilgrim, which sounded like a bunch of Surfer Rosa bonus tracks to me.
Bossanova was released officially here in 1990, quite soon. I listened to that album dozens of times for many months. I remember going to the movies with friends (Silence of the Lambs), headphones on so I could still squeeze a little bit of it during the previews. My friend looked at me angrily and told me to put the stupid walkman away, we're in the movies ferfucksakes! I didn't care. I was really enjoying that album. Heaven or Las Vegas was another very strong favorite record around that time.
I was always very lonely in all this. Nobody around me knew the Pixies or the Cocteau Twins or anything I liked. I had a few friends who liked heavy metal, like Iron Maiden, and they didn't give a shit about my bands. They only knew The Jesus and Mary Chain and they thought it was "crazy, dude, too noisy, dude!" I later had a girlfriend who liked to pretend she liked hard rock, but was rather a big poser. But she loved Bossanova, we would listen to it together quite often. She liked another record store, favored by heavy metal and trash metal types. I avoided that place like the plague. She made it no secret to me that she went over there soon after she met me, specifically to tell the store owners and patrons that her new boyfriend was really into this "Pixies" band and she wanted their stern opinion on whether it was badass enough, because she didn't want to harm her rocker girl reputation. They gave her their most heartfelt approval, so she accepted me. I still get a good laugh from that story.
I was floored by Trompe Le Monde. I had been wondering where rock'n'roll would go in terms of innovation, and I thought that TLM was IT. I always thought that TLM was very commercial, but in a really good way. Perhaps in a parallel universe where commercial music is deemed commercial because it's actually good, not inane hogwash fed to the simpleton masses because it's all the herds can digest. Ah, yes. That was another year of excellent musical memories.
Seeing them live? No. They didn't come here until 2004, and too far for me to go. I remember there were rumors in 1991, it was actually announced by a certain venue, but it didn't happen.
Then my poser girlfriend broke it to me: a music magazine ran a note informing that the Pixies had split. I didn't like the smirk on the bitch, she seemed pleased to break the bad news to me, like, where is your god now? I grabbed the mag and read the note:
"The frontman has announced he will embark on a solo project and should henceforth be referred to as Frank Black."
I thought, well, that's still good. He is the songwriter after all. I am sure that Mr. Frank Francis will not disappoint me.
He really didn't.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 09/23/2013 : 18:35:07
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i am honestly dumbfounded by the universal hatred of sliver. i love that song. campfire song. fuck you guys.
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2013 : 20:17:30
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Originally posted by lucmove
(except for Silver, of course).
sir, let's step outside
edit: i don't know why but i've a feeling that you might also dislike Frou-Frou Foxes in Midsummer Fires, one of my favourites from Heaven or Las Vegas |
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
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Posted - 09/23/2013 : 20:28:28
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i am honestly dumbfounded by the universal hatred of sliver.
i think it's because everyone inevitably compares Stone to her much stronger performance in Basic Instinct |
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lucmove
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 06:58:17
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Originally posted by tisasawath
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Originally posted by lucmove
(except for Silver, of course).
sir, let's step outside
edit: i don't know why but i've a feeling that you might also dislike Frou-Frou Foxes in Midsummer Fires, one of my favourites from Heaven or Las Vegas
I'd tell you what my favorite or least favorite tracks are on Heaven or Las Vegas, but I gave up on that more than 20 years ago. I just love every single minute of that album. Which, in fact, I can say of most Cocteau Twins albums. I'm a sucker for their music.
After the MBV, Pixies and Medicine comebacks, a Cocteau Twins comeback would make 2013 one of the most unbelievable years of my life. But I'm sure that Liz Frasier wouldn't be interested at all. What is wrong with women anyway???
LOL about your Sharon Stone joke. 
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 08:32:16
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Originally posted by tisasawath
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
i am honestly dumbfounded by the universal hatred of sliver.
i think it's because everyone inevitably compares Stone to her much stronger performance in Basic Instinct
Haha, nicely done. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 08:40:57
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I remember holding and kissing my extremely hot girlfriend on the beach
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2792 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2013 : 09:28:34
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ricj
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 10:29:27
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 10:40:50
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didn't start listening to FB til the release of Pistolero, and I too feel humiliated by this thread.
Me too, I was 14-15 when it came out. Discovered Pixies just months before.
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ricj
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 10:59:23
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| The first Pixies song I ever heard was U-Mass on 411VM issue no 23 (a skateboarding 'video magazine'). This video also featured 'Empty Glasses' by The Amps which I also loved (although it would be quite a few years before I became aware of the connection..) |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 11:35:47
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Originally posted by danjersey
didn't start listening to FB til the release of Pistolero, and I too feel humiliated by this thread.
Me too, I was 14-15 when it came out. Discovered Pixies just months before.
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ricj
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 12:07:54
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 12:11:43
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i was teenager and the Pixies toured extensively. i got into them around the time of Doolittle, picked up Bossanova after it came out but was actually awaiting the release of TLM. i turned 19 in august 1991 and i believe the Pixies came through Vancouver about 4 or 5 times from the time i really started listening until those final 2 shows at the Commodore in 92. i remember they played a tour with Primus and Jane's Addiction and i wanted to go but i can't remember if it was in Washington State or on our side but for whatever reason i never made it. i did make it to Lolla I in Enumclaw, Washington but the Pixies weren't there...they played 2 nights at the Commodore in December 1991 and i tried to go but couldnt get tickets. then they played 3 shows in succession in April 1992 (first opening for U2) then the other 2 at the Commodore (these would be their last). i had seen U2 shortly before this and didnt want to pay the money to see them again especially at the arena that was notorious for bad sound. i tried for tickets again to the 2 Commodore shows but didnt sweat it bad because hey; they seemed to tour so much they'd be back soon right?
and then not long after that i was driving down the road making a parts delivery (i delivered autoparts at the time) when the dj on the local alternative radio show announced that Black Francis had disbanded the Pixies by fax and would pursue a solo career. Noooooo! husker du, dead kennedy's, and now a band that i actually had a chance to see. i was gutted.
probably a good thing in retrospect because i made a conscious effort from then on to never miss a band that i enjoyed if i had never seen them before.
always looking on the bright side. haha
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 12:37:58
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I grew up in New Jersey, less than 10 miles from NYC, which was a 30 minute car ride. I probably don't have to tell you that NYC was, and is, loaded with all kinds of book stores, record shop, clubs, theaters, etc. There were numerous radio stations that played just about every style of music. I was exposed to all kinds of music growing up, everything from classical to jazz.
I first heard the Pixies on NYC commercial radio. The local "progressive" radio stations played Gigantic quite a bit. Gigantic was a little too "pop" for my tastes, so I didn't take much interest in it. Later on, Monkey Gone to Heaven got a fair amount of airplay. I thought Monkey Gone to Heaven was a really interesting tune, but for some reason I never connected Monkey Gone to Heaven and Gigantic with the same band. I really sat up and noticed the Pixies when I heard Tame played on Fordham University's radio station.
About the same time I heard Tame on Fordham U radio, David Sanborn was hosting a great TV show called Night Music which featured an eclectic mix of wonderful music acts. Night Music aired on NBC and was taped on SNL's sound stage in New York. One night I tuned in to watch Sanborn's show, not knowing which music acts were going to be featured, when I saw the Pixies. It was the first time I actually got to see what they looked like and I was quite surprised. Based on their sound, I was expecting some skinny punks who looked like they were strung out on heroin. Instead they looked like a mix of college students. Charles and Joe looked like geeks, Dave looked like a frat boy, and Kim looked like a hipster. Another thing that surprised me was that they had a Tina Weymouth type girl in the band. Bands featuring females who were real band members were not that common at the time. Anyway, the Pixies played the best live version of Monkey Gone to Heaven and Tame that I had ever seen. I've been a fan ever since.
Link to Pixies on Night Music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEPi5EQjEpw BTW, I can't believe this only has 157,000 views. |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 13:43:30
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| Fissile, Tame is the bar. As a sort of metal head growing up I was asked in high school buy a fellow student who was always putting bands together if I would be interested in singing (actually he said screaming) a song with his current line up for a cafeteria concert. this was like 15 minutes before they went on "stage". he handed me the head phones to his walkman and pressed play. now i considered the music i listened to as pretty dark and very angry but what I heard in those tiny foam covered speakers pressed against my ears gave me the chills, it was alien. after the first chorus i pulled the head phones off my head and said to this guy "you're crazy! that is just too much I don't even know what he's saying" he laughed and said "yeah, none of us can do it either" Tame! obviously I have not forgotten this, and to this day I do not regret not even trying to do that apocalyptic scream. some things are out of reach and owned only by their creator. |
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The Maharal
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 13:59:10
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Thanks Fissile, I hadn't viewed that in a couple of years now. That screaming becomes fucking orgasmic toward the end.
Led me onto this old classic - wish I could have been in the crowd beside Floop for it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH84yTCODIY |
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 09/24/2013 : 14:22:23
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Thanks Fissile, I hadn't viewed that in a couple of years now. That screaming becomes fucking orgasmic toward the end.
Led me onto this old classic - wish I could have been in the crowd beside Floop for it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH84yTCODIY
It's interesting that you post one of Charles' UFO themed songs. Know who else was on Sandborn's program with the Pixies that night? Sun Ra. I guess Charles must have loved it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmqe_v11q3U |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 09/25/2013 : 03:23:34
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I was in my first year at uni in 88. Sounds music rag gave away a free EP that featured these 2 Pixies demos and I'd read a little about them by then (a review of their infamous London debut gig at the Mean Fiddler April 88). So I got tickets for their upcoming Town & Country Club show May 88 with Throwing Muses (I hadn't heard them yet). Those two demos were good, still play them a lot, but they didn't prepare us for the full-on Pixies experience. Every song in their set stunned us. We'd been listening to edgy post punk stuff for years and lately stuff like Nick Cave and Tom Waits but this absolutely floored us. The memory of it, the friends I was with, the atmosphere, everything, is still pretty clear (helped by the fact that show later turned up on the Pixies Gouge DVD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkfXOMtxvck). The evening got even more dreamlike when Muses played their set https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgTHbKtBAGM I was just as taken with them. It's difficult to explain how this one gig changed everything.
Next day went out and got vinyl Pilgrim and Muses debut. A couple of weeks went by before I picked up Surfer. Those two weeks of playing the shit out of Pilgrim is why I love that record, more it seems than a lot of fans who hardly ever mention it (I see why). With those eight songs I started seeing what was going on in Charles' songwriting and that on the back of the visceral experience of hearing them play. Those two weeks were unadulterated, two weeks I'll live again if they ever invent time machine vacations. But the spell was hardly broken when I got my hands on Surfer.
From then I saw them each subsequent year I was in London til their last London shows in 91. Of all the shows I saw there are four that really stand out; That first one, another a year later when Doolittle came out, at a club called Bataclan when I was on a study year in France. What really amazed was the new way they were playing, away from that flailing flamenco punk into that weird, angular, punctuated noise that felt like the raw ends of electricity. I swear crackle from that show still lives in my hair. Then another was a solo electric show at the Borderline in London in 91 (later surfacing as The Dream Is Over bootleg). By then I was so familiar with the songs but it was still shocking to hear Charles play 'em so artfully solo. He was nervous and the crowd was rowdy, aggressive even, but his songs roared. And then one of their last London shows, their colossal return to the Mean Fiddler. I turned up ticketless at the venue for that one but met a kind soul who gave me a ticket at face value. Pixies took to the tiny stage and announced no setlist and launched into a blistering Rock Music then Something Against You, which prompted me to shout out for my favorite song of theirs, Dead. Dave started drumming the intro. I was seeing my favorite band and they were playing my request in this familiar club at what turned out to be the last show I'd see them play before they split. Elvis Presley singing at my fucking knee couldn't beat that.
I can't really listen to most singer-songwriter stuff, there's a core of maybe 20 or so I love but since that first Pixies/Muses show in May 88 there's Charles and Kristin and then there's everybody else. I've grown up with them. They're my age. I'd only shared my love of their songs with the friends that had been around, til I found this place in 2006. Great to re-live some of it and it's been very cool to follow everything the man has put out since Christmass and Bluefinger with the people here.
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Classic Masher
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Posted - 09/25/2013 : 03:28:17
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I first discovered the Pixies through the Pump Up the Volume soundtrack. I played that cassette constantly and Wave UK was one of my favorite tracks on there. But I never pursued the Pixies any further until Nirvana broke. I was a huge Nirvana fan in 1991-1992. After I heard Kurt name-drop them 2-3 times in interviews I went out and bought the cheapest Pixies cassette they had at my local music store (Trompe Le Monde in the discount bin for $3.99). After that a friend loaned me Doolittle and I copied it. Then I bought Come On Pilgrim, then Surfer Rosa and finally Bossanova. At some point in there a friend told me they had already broken up and that the lead singer had changed his name to Frank Black. Los Angeles had already come out and I hadn't even realized it was the same guy.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2013 : 17:18:54
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Originally posted by tisasawath
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
i am honestly dumbfounded by the universal hatred of sliver.
i think it's because everyone inevitably compares Stone to her much stronger performance in Basic Instinct
fantastic.
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cptnpasty
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Posted - 09/26/2013 : 00:36:10
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I first heard the Pixies when John Peel played Break My Body from the then forthcoming Surfer Rosa. I had been eyeing up Come On Pilgrim in the local record shop for months. It had an excellent cover and was a 4ad record, so I had been tempted many times but hadn't gone for it. Before they'd even reached the chorus of Break My Body that night on the radio, all of my synapses had mentally processed "new favourite band..."
Not long after I found myself at THAT Mean Fiddler gig. Still the gig of my life and I think that's true for a lot of people who were there.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2013 : 01:33:46
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Originally posted by tisasawath
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
i am honestly dumbfounded by the universal hatred of sliver.
i think it's because everyone inevitably compares Stone to her much stronger performance in Basic Instinct
fantastic.
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2013 : 04:54:55
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sorry for being third grade for a moment. missing some vovatry.
i agree with you, Stone is definitely campfire material.
great accounts, as if reading some foreword to a seminal album reissue. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2013 : 05:38:07
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I'm enjoying the accounts too. Hopefully this thread will become a definitive one but it's touch and go, 50-50 with Sharon Stone at the moment so who knows. Tell us your early Pixies stories, c'mon! I'm still hoping there are forum members who saw them at the Rat 87-88. Want to hear those accounts.
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2013 : 02:45:21
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Originally posted by danjersey
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Originally posted by billgoodman
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Originally posted by danjersey
didn't start listening to FB til the release of Pistolero, and I too feel humiliated by this thread.
Me too, I was 14-15 when it came out. Discovered Pixies just months before.
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problem is, I was 15 when Surfer Rosa came out.
I've got a bigger problem; I was 24 when Surfer Rosa came out and despite being a fan since '89 I only saw them once (in '89). Now that's humiliating! The other problem is I was so drunk on the night that I can barely remember it. So no great anecdotes from me then |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2013 : 22:50:38
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haha. thats kinda funny OOTY. my buddy and i couldnt get tix in vancouver for the reunioin warmup shows (2004) so we committed to a weekend in satchitoons (18-20 hr drive) - we left on the drive and took turns driving and stopped in edmonton to meet a friend and carpool the rest of the way - anyways long story short after waiting 12 odd years to see them again i got so drunk i dont remember the first half of that show and my buddy got so drunk he doesnt remember the second half. combined we remember the whole show, haha. glad i got tix on the day of the show back in van 5 days later....seen them 5 times since.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 10/01/2013 : 23:23:02
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canada is a big country
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2013 : 18:55:45
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i will collect my thoughts and add to this thread. some day. nice to read people's accounts
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
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Posted - 10/06/2013 : 11:32:19
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 10/07/2013 : 08:05:35
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
i am honestly dumbfounded by the universal hatred of sliver. i love that song. campfire song. fuck you guys.
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I'm with you. Silver's great, a doolittle essential.
Involves campfires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwgVzaJ2GgI
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Pixies original run - share your memories
