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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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 Posted - 06/23/2010 : 13:13:25
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Originally posted by pot
Oh right and how many Israeli fans do you know? Know any that have gotten deliberately found with drugs and gone to jail to get out of military service, or any who have ended up going to India and having a nervous breakdown because of the way things are in their country?
No need to get nasty.
Every Israeli I know would say you're patronising them but you can carry on presuming all you like. Self-pity isn't the answer; Oh poor Iraelis, victims of their own evil democratically-elected government. And the only shred of hope they had (apart from that offered by their relatively liberal constitution) was that one day the Pixies might come and play in their country and free them from oppression.
You can't be serious. Hey if you dropped out pot then you dropped out. You don't need to justify it.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 06/24/2010 : 05:28:26
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by pot
Oh right and how many Israeli fans do you know? Know any that have gotten deliberately found with drugs and gone to jail to get out of military service, or any who have ended up going to India and having a nervous breakdown because of the way things are in their country?
No need to get nasty.
Every Israeli I know would say you're patronising them but you can carry on presuming all you like. Self-pity isn't the answer; Oh poor Iraelis, victims of their own evil democratically-elected government. And the only shred of hope they had (apart from that offered by their relatively liberal constitution) was that one day the Pixies might come and play in their country and free them from oppression.
You can't be serious. Hey if you dropped out pot then you dropped out. You don't need to justify it.
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Nasty is blaming Israeli people for their governments actions. Don't be a cock.
Israeli people are victims of this fascist government as well as Palestinians, being made to do military service, being persecuted for smoking marijuana, I don't know what else but that is enough in itself! It's not everyone from Israel's fault for what their government is doing. You can't just say that because they are "democratically elected" that the responsibility from what goes on thereafter falls on everyone's head. Most governments who get elected lie to get in office in the first place, renege on most of their manifesto and quite often start wars against the wishes of the people who elected them. They are accountable only to themselves.
And don't bring my life into the equation, I am trying to be objective here. Don't get personal. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 06/24/2010 : 05:58:51
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Originally posted by pot
You can't just say that because they are "democratically elected" that the responsibility from what goes on thereafter falls on everyone's head. Most governments who get elected lie to get in office in the first place, renege on most of their manifesto and quite often start wars against the wishes of the people who elected them. They are accountable only to themselves.
I don't think was fooled by Netanyahu's intentions. They knew what they were getting and voted for it. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 06/24/2010 : 06:02:17
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by pot
You can't just say that because they are "democratically elected" that the responsibility from what goes on thereafter falls on everyone's head. Most governments who get elected lie to get in office in the first place, renege on most of their manifesto and quite often start wars against the wishes of the people who elected them. They are accountable only to themselves.
I don't think was fooled by Netanyahu's intentions. They knew what they were getting and voted for it.
Did EVERYONE in Israel vote for him? |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 06/24/2010 : 06:18:56
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Did EVERYONE in Israel vote for him?
Wikipedia will answer your questions. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
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Posted - 06/24/2010 : 06:21:01
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Did EVERYONE in Israel vote for him?
Wikipedia will answer your questions.
Oh ok then, I'll just check wikipedia for all the latest news on Frank Black and the Pixies as well then. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 07:52:54
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Originally posted by pot
You can't just say that because they are "democratically elected" that the responsibility from what goes on thereafter falls on everyone's head.
I'm saying exactly that. Democracy; are you in or out pot?. Opting in for the cool stuff and slinging mud the rest of the time is juvenile. The world isn't a conspiracy designed to keep you an unhappy adolescent. I'll take messy Israeli democracy over your preferred imaginary vanguard of the "enlightened" every time.
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Originally posted by pot
And don't bring my life into the equation, I am trying to be objective here. Don't get personal.
You're mistaking your tantrums for objectivity? Pure altruism? Give me a break. All politics is an expression of neurosis. And anyway, read back your first reply. You made it personal. You want to be having this discussion. Lie back and tell me all about it. Why exactly do you feel guilty about dropping out? It might be helpful for you to begin by listing all the things you like about actual real-life democracy.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 08:01:50
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by pot
You can't just say that because they are "democratically elected" that the responsibility from what goes on thereafter falls on everyone's head.
I'm saying exactly that. Democracy; are you in or out pot?. Opting in for the cool stuff and slinging mud the rest of the time is juvenile. The world isn't a conspiracy designed to keep you an unhappy adolescent. I'll take messy Israeli democracy over your preferred imaginary vanguard of the "enlightened" every time.
I'm in. But the current system has got fuck all to do with democracy. The majority of the electorate, like you, have been fooled into thinking it has.
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Originally posted by pot
And don't bring my life into the equation, I am trying to be objective here. Don't get personal.
You're mistaking your tantrums for objectivity? Pure altruism? Give me a break. All politics is an expression of neurosis. And anyway, read back your first reply. You made it personal. You want to be having this discussion. Lie back and tell me all about it. Why exactly do you feel guilty about dropping out? It might be helpful for you to begin by listing all the things you like about actual real-life democracy.
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I'm having tantrums now?
You are the one making it personal here, I'm just expressing my opinion, which happens to contain an element of vehemence. Sorry you can't handle that, but where politics is concerned people do tend to have quite strong opinions.
If real democracy existed perhaps we would all be inclined to discuss matters at hand with a little more civility. But make no mistake, I am slinging no mud at anyone here. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 08:06:22
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The  symbol just ruins it for me. You either get it or you don't. Anyway I've had my fun. Don't go changing pot.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 08:53:57
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Originally posted by pot
If real democracy existed perhaps we would all be inclined to discuss matters at hand with a little more civility. But make no mistake, I am slinging no mud at anyone here.
Democracy is working in Israel and apparently the majority want to stick it to the people that live in the Gaza Strip. Fine, no Pixies for you. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 09:14:34
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by pot
If real democracy existed perhaps we would all be inclined to discuss matters at hand with a little more civility. But make no mistake, I am slinging no mud at anyone here.
Democracy is working in Israel and apparently the majority want to stick it to the people that live in the Gaza Strip. Fine, no Pixies for you.
Did you vote for George Bush? |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 09:28:16
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| Nope, but I also didn't whine about how everybody thought we were a country of assholes when he was President (and I loudly complained about him, including on here, dig up Erebus and ask him). I haven't seen you complaining about Israeli policies. |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 09:32:39
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| Pixies still toured in the US though, didn't they. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 10:03:14
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Originally posted by pot
Pixies still toured in the US though, didn't they.
That's what it says on wikipedia. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2010 : 10:05:58
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Actually right now it says:
The Pixies were scheduled to play their first reunion concert on April 13, 2004 at The Fine Line Music Cafe in [[Minneapolis, Minnesota]],<ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.nme.com/reviews/pixies/7399 | title=Pixies : Minneapolis Fine Line Music Cafe | accessdate=2006-09-10}}</ref> and a warmup tour through the U.S. and Canada was followed by an appearance at the [[Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival]] but canceled the tour because Bush was President. The band then spent much of 2004 touring throughout Brazil, Europe, and Japan.
Catch it while you can. |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2010 : 02:06:47
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Originally posted by pot
The majority of the electorate have been fooled
Oh Great Pot, show us the way.
You don't really believe that statement? Your third eye must be looking through a layer of pus.
You're not a democrat, you're a megalomaniac. That's fine, it adds color, just don't pretend otherwise.
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rodney
- FB Fan -
USA
127 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2010 : 03:47:45
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| Boy, that Frank Black sure can write a song, can't he? |
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2010 : 05:33:58
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by pot
The majority of the electorate have been fooled
Oh Great Pot, show us the way.
You don't really believe that statement? Your third eye must be looking through a layer of pus.
You're not a democrat, you're a megalomaniac. That's fine, it adds color, just don't pretend otherwise.
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One of the characteristic things about being asleep is that you don't realise that you are asleep. The same applies to ignorance.
In a blissful kind of way though, I wish I lived in the same ignorant world that you live in. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2010 : 22:31:18
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Originally posted by pot
One of the characteristic things about being asleep is that you don't realise that you are asleep. The same applies to ignorance.
In a blissful kind of way though, I wish I lived in the same ignorant world that you live in.
There are good arguments against what I've been saying. You might try making them. Or do you want me to do that part as well?
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 01:52:22
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by pot
One of the characteristic things about being asleep is that you don't realise that you are asleep. The same applies to ignorance.
In a blissful kind of way though, I wish I lived in the same ignorant world that you live in.
There are good arguments against what I've been saying. You might try making them. Or do you want me to do that part as well?
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You're not capable of putting up a good argument. You just resort to insults. Don't try and make out you know me because you don't. Maybe I should call you anti-semitic.....? |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 02:06:56
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You're no fun at all 
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <
Iceland
3910 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 02:32:28
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| Jew-hater. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 03:51:38
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Originally posted by rodney
Boy, that Frank Black sure can write a song, can't he?
Just give us a minute will you 
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 10:31:01
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Originally posted by rodney
Boy, that Frank Black sure can write a song, can't he?
I quite like "Deutschland Uber Alles", didn't he write that one?
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/26/2010 : 11:40:04
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No, I mean, the chord progression is nice.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 11:42:32
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Originally posted by vilainde
No, I mean, the chord progression is nice.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
I'm tuning in for a heart felt rendition tomorrow.
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echo park
- FB Fan -
Saint Barthelemy
128 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 13:12:45
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| i found out the reason behind this whole thing, last night at The Mint in Los Angeles. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 14:29:04
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| jew hatred? |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 15:25:53
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Not to reask, but palestine love?
 "Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
736 Posts |
Posted - 06/27/2010 : 10:27:12
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Zionist plot to control the world?
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1718 Posts |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/27/2010 : 15:28:43
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Originally posted by jediroller
No bacon on the rider?
We'll have a gay old time |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2010 : 01:58:36
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Didn't wanna miss the World Cup?
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Pixies cancel Tel Aviv show
