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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
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 Posted - 05/18/2009 : 01:10:44
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I once read that the most important songs on an album are the first and the last tracks. What do you think works best on FB's records?
For me, I love Bad Harmony as track one. Really sets the tone for the rest of Pistolero. And as a final track, I love Last Stand Of Shazeb Andleeb, a beautiful coda to Cult Of Ray.
Your thoughts...
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
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Posted - 05/18/2009 : 02:30:34
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Great topic, my favoutite opener is Velvety, kicks off DW with great energy gives you an impression of the feel of the record.
Favourite closer is Manitoba on SMYT, absolutley epic ending. I dont know if it a sax or a trumpet that sounds after the "i have seen the face of God, and i have dearly paid" but it is beautiful and pretty euphoric. Love that record. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 05/18/2009 : 03:14:11
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From the same record I like Pong/Pie. The quick, short opener and closer make the whole 22 song bohemoth light on its feet.
But from different records; Los Angeles because it had the added pressure of being a post-Pixies statement of intent. And Dog In The Sand's a great unself-conscious closer. But if you mean BF as well as FB I'd go with Bluefinger because it works beautifully as a closer on so many levels.
I didn't much like Blast Off as an opener. DITS's otherwise perfect to me. And I could lose the Black Riders too.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 05/18/2009 : 05:04:52
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 05/18/2009 : 05:55:32
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I'm gonna start the album with Blast Off from now on. I'm a bit biased towards I've Seen Your Picture (I'm a picture editor so it's got some extra meaning for me). Not sure it's really an opener though. Blast Off's the one that got a special friend of mine into FB. She loved the line 'Cos city hall all are freaks and the coffee is getting weak', she's a public sector worker.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 05/18/2009 : 06:00:32
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quote:
Originally posted by darwin
I think I'm in minority, but I like Blast Off as an opener.
Count me in the minority, too.
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5157 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2009 : 06:16:34
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Originally posted by BLT
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
I think I'm in minority, but I like Blast Off as an opener.
Count me in the minority, too.
The lowest forms of socializing:
3) Message boards
2) Mustard gas
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Me too.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2009 : 06:58:19
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Pie in the Sky is probably the biggest exclamation point to an album that I can think of. Fast. Short. Bam. It's there and gone before you've had time to clap your hands and stomp your feet accordingly.
For openers, nothing quite grabs me in the same way, but I'd have to give Velvety honourable mention for setting the tone and pace of DW and really drawing you in.
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 05/18/2009 : 07:45:38
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As a sucker for ballads and goodbye songs I like Shazeb
Andleeb and Fields of Marigold for closers.
I think I like the song Captain Pasty the most [] of all
the openers, although there are some strong statements
in All My Ghosts, The Marsist, The Sues and Pong, which
is probably the correct way to start. I would have liked
MIB or COR as track 1. Pong is often too much, too soon.
[Your Mouth into Mine would have made a fine and logical
opener, and I don't know if it was ever explained why it
was moved.]
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2479 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2009 : 12:37:17
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| I suppose you answer the question in your own post... Captain Pasty is such a brilliant song to open with! |
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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =
503 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2009 : 17:00:30
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All My Ghosts
Black Rider (open/close) |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 05/18/2009 : 17:48:13
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For me, nothing sets an album's tone like the opening strums of Selkie Bride on Honeycomb. I like the mood those first few notes put me in. And nothing ties up an album like the epic Sing For Joy.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/19/2009 : 01:31:57
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Originally posted by coastline
For me, nothing sets an album's tone like the opening strums of Selkie Bride on Honeycomb. I like the mood those first few notes put me in. And nothing ties up an album like the epic Sing For Joy.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
i agree. maybe it's because they're the two best songs on the album!
los angeles/don't you rile em is perfect as well. the former for above (WAY above) stated reasons, and the latter because it's short, majestic and uplifting.
nadine HAS to be at the beginning because it sounds nothing like the rest of the record.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 05/19/2009 : 09:42:19
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Frank has the best openers. Can't think of any FB record with a bad first song (OK, I'm not the hugest fan of Nadine).
My fave has to be The Marsist though. God I love this track.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/19/2009 : 10:07:25
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I think FB pretty much nailed it every time. I prefer Sing For Joy as an opener.
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I'm not the hugest fan of Nadine
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2009 : 11:50:41
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Originally posted by fbc
I think FB pretty much nailed it every time.
That must be right. No one's even needed to mention Debaser yet, the most astonishing opener by anyone anywhere.
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/19/2009 : 12:00:37
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A lot of things in relation to Frank Black goes without saying. So. Bay and Don't Ya Rile 'Em as closers, yes please.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2009 : 14:14:08
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quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders
quote:
Originally posted by fbc
I think FB pretty much nailed it every time.
That must be right. No one's even needed to mention Debaser yet, the most astonishing opener by anyone anywhere.
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since you brought up pixies...
cecilia ann is an amazing surf song to open what is essentially one of the greatest surf albums of the '90s (or any decade, in my opinion).
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2009 : 09:23:46
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I always kinda thought that Los Angeles would make a great closer. Maybe not to the album, but to a film. The soaring strings and the gentle sweeps on the guitar evoke the generic two-friends-shown-from-the-back-walking-home-together-in-the-sunset.
The 15-minute Planet Of Sound on Frank Black Francis is the best closer, simply because it couldn't go anywhere else.
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
799 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2009 : 13:16:53
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I found it interesting that Sing For Joy was the first track on the leaked version of Honeycomb - but was eventually segued as the final track on the official version. I think it actually worked really well as either, but I am probably more accepting of it now as the perfect closer to HC.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2009 : 16:25:35
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wasn't SMYT all mixed up too upon leaking, with manitoba up front?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6260 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2009 : 22:12:56
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I like the Black Riders actually
All the albums have great openers and closers, except FMRM
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6260 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2009 : 22:13:00
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I like the Black Riders actually
All the albums have great openers and closers, except FMRM
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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken? |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6260 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2009 : 22:13:08
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I like the Black Riders actually
All the albums have great openers and closers, except FMRM
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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken? |
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killebrew
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 16:38:51
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| its a toss up for me... if your poison gets you/fare thee well or nadine/manitoba |
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killebrew
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 16:42:52
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| its a toss up for me Nadine/Manitoba or if your possin gets you/fare thee well |
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killebrew
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 16:43:05
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| its a toss up for me Nadine/Manitoba or if your possin gets you/fare thee well |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 09:38:08
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All My Ghosts and The Man Who Was Too Loud are perfect. Come to think of it nearly every FB album I think of seems to have a great choice for opening and closing. I always thought Motorway to Roswell should have been the last track on Trompe though.
"Though he loved to rock and roll...aww I better not".
"The arc of triumph" |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 06/29/2009 : 13:33:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by fbc
I think FB pretty much nailed it every time.
That must be right. No one's even needed to mention Debaser yet, the most astonishing opener by anyone anywhere.
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Ed is the hoo hoo
since you brought up pixies...
cecilia ann is an amazing surf song to open what is essentially one of the greatest surf albums of the '90s (or any decade, in my opinion).
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they were the heroes of old, men of renown.
Listening to Bossa earlier today driving in the glorious sunshine I saw what you mean. Ana too could have kicked things off with that perfectly weighted opening.
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 14:13:40
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quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu
All My Ghosts and The Man Who Was Too Loud are perfect. Come to think of it nearly every FB album I think of seems to have a great choice for opening and closing. I always thought Motorway to Roswell should have been the last track on Trompe though.
"Though he loved to rock and roll...aww I better not".
"The arc of triumph"
absolutely
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Edited by - blarg007 on 06/29/2009 14:16:51 |
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 14:13:55
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quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu
All My Ghosts and The Man Who Was Too Loud are perfect. Come to think of it nearly every FB album I think of seems to have a great choice for opening and closing. I always thought Motorway to Roswell should have been the last track on Trompe though.
"Though he loved to rock and roll...aww I better not".
"The arc of triumph"
ABSOLUTELY
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Edited by - blarg007 on 06/29/2009 14:15:22 |
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 14:14:27
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quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu
All My Ghosts and The Man Who Was Too Loud are perfect. Come to think of it nearly every FB album I think of seems to have a great choice for opening and closing. I always thought Motorway to Roswell should have been the last track on Trompe though.
"Though he loved to rock and roll...aww I better not".
"The arc of triumph"
ABSOLUTELY
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