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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2010 :  02:47:16  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

People, my girlfriend just got me a copy. Actually, she got it a few weeks back and decided to give it to me during our holiday last week. I believe it's number 437. Will post photo's later. Amazing record! I believe my criticism was more based on the fact that I couldn't afford it, than on the music.

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?



awesome! have fun with that monster (and your new cds, too)! boo-yah!

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they were the heroes of old, men of renown.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

1718 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2010 :  03:25:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde



Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."


I did that and scratched the cover of my copy. Yeah I'm clumsy.



free music | Frank Black & Pixies Tributes
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3112 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2010 :  07:54:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matto

quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

I'm thinking how special would a dvd of the Castro theater performance be? Was it even shot?

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Ed is the hoo hoo

this is a bit of it, yeah? (I can't hear cos I have no speakers at the moment) surely there's more, pro or amateur shot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRyawSORhyQ

sminki pinki

Thanks, hadn't seen that before. There wasn't any audio/video from the performance, just before/after vox pop. I'm getting more and more curious about the performance. I really hope some footage surfaces.

Only just now coming back to Golem after a nonstoperotik period of distraction. The themes and reprises make the experience so much bigger. I'm so in awe of this album.

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Ed is the hoo hoo
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2010 :  10:55:12  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've got it on now. Hm. Ghetto Gates. I won't skip. I will listen. I won't skip. I will listen. I won't....
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windupbird
- FB Fan -

127 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2010 :  16:40:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Keep listening, fbc, I think it'll pay off. For me, the whole Golem "clicked" at some point, and I couldn't get enough of it. Soon, you'll be humming "Meet me at the Ghetto Gates" in the elevator.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7307 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2010 :  21:37:47  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I really don't understand the unlove for Ghetto Gates. To me it's the absolute best track on the album, the song that makes me want to listen to the whole beast. I'm tapping my fingers impatiently through the whole first hour waiting for it to start.
No, really.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2010 :  21:48:46  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The vocal delivery half way through begins to grate. The music I adore. Kinda. Reminds me of All Around The World.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3112 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2010 :  21:53:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember someone once posted that Frank Black, Tom Waits and Nick Cave were their holy trinity. I remembered cos I felt the same way. Meet Me At The Ghetto Gates is kinda the place where the three meet. There's elements of Nick Cave's song The Carny and there's Tom Waits' Ralph Carney. Keep listening fbc.

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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2010 :  21:59:47  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's on now. If I'm not back in 4 minutes, call the police.

nope. not this morning. not happening. skipped straight to Wild Son.

Edited by - fbc on 04/13/2010 22:04:57
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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2010 :  15:25:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
2nd Anniversary of Castro Show today.


I have the key to #902
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
587 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2010 :  18:33:24  Show Profile  Click to see Brank_Flack's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Watched the DVD at my Pep Pep's today, looked and sounded great to me!

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Golem Survivor Round 4 http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20079
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
1970 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  09:41:46  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I watched the dvd yesterday for the first time and had never heard the songs before.
I loved the music (except maybe a couple of tracks) but I've gotta say that some songs don't fit the movie very well (sometimes the music is fast paced and the movie slow, sometimes it's the opposite.)
At times, it sounded more like an album inspired by the movie than an actual soundtrack.
Anyway, it was a strange but enjoyable experience and hey, the music is great !
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11520 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2010 :  09:38:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alamo Drafthouse - Pixies Fans, Silent Film Fans, Unite! DER GOLUM with Score by Black Francis.
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hegisin
- FB Fan -

Philippines
12 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  17:06:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I hope that someone can help me out. I've ordered "Der Golem" boxset in February. I don't want to explain the whole story of the order but fact is, that I still did not receive my copy. I'm located in the Philippines and that might be the reason of all the problems. However, after initially I got some support from the customer service, I'm no longer receiving any reply from them. Maybe it's due to a change in the webstore.

If someone here knows anyone from the webstore, please do me a favour and ask them to get in touch with me. My original order was No. 1300, dd. Feb. 20, 2010.

I can provide further information if necessary.

Your help is highly appreciated.

Cheers,
hegisin
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hegisin
- FB Fan -

Philippines
12 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2010 :  18:38:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Webstore admin is obviously also reading here! They contacted me and I hope my problem will be sorted out! :)
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2941 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2011 :  06:50:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For the record, this is still a great album/soundtrack/score/whatever. I put it on for the first time in ages this morning, and was pleasantly surprised to enjoy the songs as much as I did the first bunch of times I listened to them.

Edited by - coastline on 01/25/2011 07:10:20
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7307 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2011 :  09:53:50  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey thanks for digging up that thread. I listen to the Golem very regularly - mostly the "rock edit" version cause it works really well. It's so fucking good.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2941 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2011 :  13:34:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you buy the rock edit, Denis, or just make a playlist from the original?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7307 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2011 :  21:23:22  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I bought it. I haven't checked but I think the songs are slightly edited from the original version.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2941 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2011 :  06:37:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I guess my collection isn't complete without the Golem rock edit. Gonna have to head over to the BF webstore ...
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pot
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2294 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2011 :  13:14:42  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did they edit out all the boring bits?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7307 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2011 :  11:00:55  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't hear no boring bits in the Golem.
But to answer your question, they edited out most instrumental tracks and some of the instrumental outros and stuff.


Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2011 :  02:53:08  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The only Black Francis album in my iTunes. Beatles - Black Francis - Bob Dylan. A Black Frank Sandwich. Tasty.
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pot
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2294 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2011 :  03:14:04  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

I don't hear no boring bits in the Golem.
But to answer your question, they edited out most instrumental tracks and some of the instrumental outros and stuff.



Ok. So still some music left to put in it then..



...I'm just joshing.

Hey, I didn't think much of it. It didn't do anything for me- just saying, eh.

Am I the only person who didn't much like it? Everyone else seems to be raving about it..

Edited by - pot on 01/31/2011 03:15:30
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2011 :  03:42:28  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I haven't listened to it for a while, not from beginning to end. Like the past few albums there are certain songs I keep coming back to.

I forget what came before, but I remember at the time it was refreshing, for me, to hear this side of Black (though the it's all one song/it's all disco philosophy says he only has one). It just sounded familiar. In a good way.
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
587 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2011 :  08:25:50  Show Profile  Click to see Brank_Flack's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
4 Stars from Allmusic

http://allmusic.com/album/the-golem-r2133831/review

Trimmed down from the five-disc extravaganza Black Francis sold in a limited edition of 500 copies on his website, this version of The Golem focuses more on his full-fledged songs for the 1920 silent horror film The Golem: How He Came into the World and less on his instrumental cues. While this decision might disappoint some of the film and film score geeks among Francis' fans, the album still has plenty to offer, not the least of which is Francis' reunion with longtime collaborator Eric Drew Feldman. Feldman's keyboards and Francis' voice and guitar just sound natural -- and immediately recognizable -- together. Joined by a backing band that includes Ralph Carney on horns, they craft music that doesn’t borrow too heavily from the ‘20s or from the film’s setting of 16th century Prague, but its loose-limbed rock still conveys the otherworldly eeriness and fable-like story of its source material. The city’s rabbi creates the Golem out of clay to project the Jewish ghetto, but the Golem rebels, devastating the city. “The Obedient Servant,” the Golem’s song of devotion to his master, is strangely sweet, but dark undercurrents lie in lyrics like “Don’t cry/It’s they who’ll die” and its brass melodies. In “Miriam and Florian,” Francis cleverly captures the love affair between the rabbi’s daughter and her knightly suitor, turning the song into a mini rock opera in its own right. The enjoyment that Francis and crew display in channeling the film’s devilish moments (“Astaroth,” “The Conjuring”) as well as its tender ones (“The Flower Song,” “[Oh How I Wish I Could] Stay") is palpable even in The Golem's edited state, and the project suggests another exciting realm in which Francis can prove his talent.

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Nate in the PDX
- FB Fan -

USA
141 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2011 :  19:12:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This past weekend I picked up both "The Golem" rock edit disc and "Abbabubba" at Music Millennium here in Portland -- they had plenty of copies of each -- and am really enjoying rediscovering the great songs of The Golem through this new presentation. (I was too lazy to assemble the rock edit playlist from the box set when it was announced... yeah, I'm that lazy.)

Anyway, it's been a while since I listened to the original, which I had in heavy rotation after the box set came out but haven't listened to very heavily for six months or more. So I'm really delighted about that as a fan. And more than happy to contribute a few more dollars to the cause.

On to hoping for that Thompson/Paley project to see the light of day... and would it be too much to ask for a Thompson/Paley tour? It's been too long since the heady days when Reid would rile everybody up with his opening set and the Catholics would mow 'em down... but I digress...
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Discoking
= Cult of Ray =

Belgium
679 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2011 :  00:08:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nate in the PDX

This past weekend I picked up both "The Golem" rock edit disc and "Abbabubba" at Music Millennium here in Portland


is abbabubba a cd-r or a proper cd?
are both cds still released in a digipack (cardboard), or have they changed to a jewel case, for example?


it's educational
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Nate in the PDX
- FB Fan -

USA
141 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2011 :  05:40:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Discoking, the packaging and discs for both "Golem" rock edit and "Abbabubba" appear to be identical, to my untrained eye. Both are in cardboard sleeves, and both appear to be "proper CDs". How would I tell otherwise? Is there something in the tiny code printed on the reverse that would tell me? I don't have the first pressing "Abbabubba" for comparison.
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Discoking
= Cult of Ray =

Belgium
679 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2011 :  05:50:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the abbabubba that was first for sale in the webstore was a cd-r.
the code(s) on the reverse of the disc can tell a lot, yes. if you don't mind having a close look and listing what it says, that would be great.


it's educational
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Nate in the PDX
- FB Fan -

USA
141 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2011 :  06:10:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So saith the reverse of the "Abbabubba" disc I purchased this past weekend: CA / - Abbabubba - 42951

So saith the reverse of the "Golem" rock edit disc I purchased this past weekend: CA / - THE GOLEM: HOW HE COME INTO THE WORLD - 40855

(I didn't buy "Abbabubba" during the original run, so I don't have one of those at hand for comparison's sake.)
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Discoking
= Cult of Ray =

Belgium
679 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2011 :  22:47:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes, this means that abbabubba is now a proper silver disc. (if only i had known this in advance...)
thanks for checking, nate.


it's educational
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BillyRadcliffe
- FB Fan -

USA
17 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2011 :  07:07:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, is anyone interested in purchasing The Golem set? I've got #219.

Newborn baby at home and trying to free up space and put any funds to better use!
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pot
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2294 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2011 :  08:46:27  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wanted one when it came out, but didn't quite have the money to spare. I still don't, but if I come across some dosh sometime I might be interested then. Are you interested in a swap? Probably not I suppose if you are looking to clear space.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11520 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2012 :  06:00:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*bump*

Just a little thing here...

Open Culture - The Pixies’ Black Francis Creates Soundtrack for Famous German Expressionist Film, The Golem.
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