| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
 Posted - 10/11/2007 : 16:39:33
|
In reference to the term Zugzwang, used in Robert Onion (which has been talked about here before), just thought you might be interested to know of a novel by that name that was recently released. Written by Ronan Bennett, it is apparently a political thriller set in St. Petersburg in 1914, and features a chess tournament.
 |
|
|
Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2007 : 16:49:03
|
Cool. Have you read it yet?
We're all obscure fans.- trobrianders
|
 |
|
|
two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 02:30:13
|
good old FB days...
i just read alice in wonderland and alice through the looking-glass. the book ends with a poem which is structured like the song "robert onion". altotgether, the first letters of each line spell out the name "alice pleasence lidell". also, there are always three lines connected - just like in robert onion
robert lead me into thought (chords: E H)
onion layers wait for you (G C)
beauty of eternal fields (F# H)
then the chord-pattern starts again. its the same with the structure in the "alice" poem.
FB has read alice - in on of the Cult-of-Ray - songs, he refers to a "snark" which is a figure out of the book.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
|
|
|
Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 02:31:50
|
| I know Frank writes with some odd progressions, but I don't think he's invented an 'H' quite yet. |
|
|
|
IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 03:06:37
|
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers
good old FB days...
i just read alice in wonderland and alice through the looking-glass. the book ends with a poem which is structured like the song "robert onion". altotgether, the first letters of each line spell out the name "alice pleasence lidell". also, there are always three lines connected - just like in robert onion
robert lead me into thought (chords: E H)
onion layers wait for you (G C)
beauty of eternal fields (F# H)
then the chord-pattern starts again. its the same with the structure in the "alice" poem.
FB has read alice - in on of the Cult-of-Ray - songs, he refers to a "snark" which is a figure out of the book.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
Is "pleasence" an intentional typo? I'm not judging anyone. Just interested in knowing what, if any, artistic point there would be of Carroll's intentionally misspelled word; maybe the acrostic just looked better that way?
Or maybe Two Reelers made a typo. In which case I will have lost total respect for him, send him death threats, and make a mental note to vote him off immediately in the forthcoming Forum Members Named After a Track 10 on an FB Album Survivor. |
Edited by - IceCream on 10/12/2007 03:08:02 |
|
|
|
two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 03:47:04
|
oh,
a 'H' is a 'B' (old convention/spelling in germany/austria - don't ask me why.)
and, yes, pleasence was my typo (but a mental one). it is pleasance, of course. my life is an endless chain of faults and mishappings.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
|
|
|
NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 04:26:39
|
| Yes, H=B and B=Bb |
|
|
|
two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 08:04:28
|
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon
B=Bb
sure ? i never read that. i think we have
A Ais H C Cis D Dis E F Fis G Gis which is equivalent to
A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# which is equivalent to
A Bb B C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab
corrections welcome!
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
|
|
|
Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 15:32:48
|
| Very interesting! Are there any other Austrian differences? |
|
|
|
Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 16:13:56
|
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl
Cool. Have you read it yet?
Actually no Daisy, I just saw it reviewed on an arts show the other night!
 "In six months, she'll look like Grandma Moses!" |
|
|
|
Wee Mac
- FB Fan -
35 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2007 : 05:35:58
|
| And thats numberwang! |
Edited by - Wee Mac on 10/13/2007 05:36:24 |
|
|
|
NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2007 : 13:08:15
|
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon
B=Bb
sure ? i never read that. i think we have
A Ais H C Cis D Dis E F Fis G Gis which is equivalent to
A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# which is equivalent to
A Bb B C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab
corrections welcome!
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
I'm 100% positive.
Flats are normally done by appending -es to the note name. So, on your chart above, Db would actually be Des, Eb would be Es, etc. But Bb for whatever reason is just B. |
|
|
|
VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 06:49:31
|
quote:
FB has read alice - in on of the Cult-of-Ray - songs, he refers to a "snark" which is a figure out of the book.
Actually, "The Hunting of the Snark" is a poem by Lewis Carroll that isn't directly related to either of the Alice books. But it's likely that anyone who's read "Snark" has read the Alice books as well.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
|
|
|
two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 14:52:12
|
oops - have i mixed it up? i was quite convinced that a snark is mentioned in a poem in one of the alice books. thanks for the correction, if i'm wrong (which i probably am).
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Zugzwang got me in a way...
