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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2007 :  20:18:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

He's French, floop. Give him a break.


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i'll give him a break. i'll break his baguette in half, and then eat it

ha ha hah. heheh.

heh


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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2007 :  20:37:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

He's French, floop. Give him a break.


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Frenchy wasn't the first one to say it that way. Llama was. Seems it's a European thing.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2007 :  20:41:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We may argue about maple syrup but North America rocks! Screw Europe! We rule!



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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2007 :  21:13:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

We may argue about maple syrup but North America rocks! Screw Europe! We rule!



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Srisaket
= Cult of Ray =

Thailand
313 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2007 :  21:23:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

We may argue about maple syrup but North America rocks! Screw Europe! We rule!



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British English - anticlockwise
North American English - counterclockwise

So both are correct, and also don't jump into bed with the Seppos to claim some NA hegemony, you don't rock and you certainly don't rule.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2007 :  21:29:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you calling Denis a Brit? Them's fightin' words!

You are right, I most certainly do not rock. Frank won't come to my town. I won't rock until I get me some Bluefinger tour.


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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  01:25:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i saw clockwise. i'm righthanded.

quote:
Originally posted by shineoftheever

wait a sec. which way is she actually going?


if you check the shadow of her lifted foot, she really is turning counter-clockwise.

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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  01:30:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

We may argue about maple syrup but North America rocks! Screw Europe! We rule!



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hey i know this! took some pics too!



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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  03:20:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tisasawath

i saw clockwise. i'm righthanded.

quote:
Originally posted by shineoftheever

wait a sec. which way is she actually going?


if you check the shadow of her lifted foot, she really is turning counter-clockwise.

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Upside-down counter-clockwise which is clockwise. Back where we started.

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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  03:55:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
?
when the shadow goes further away from our point of view (more up in the 2-dimension pic) -> the foot is moving away
and the opposite when the shadow is moving closer (down)

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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  04:38:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the shadow doesn't give any clues, because the light could be coming from in front or from behind. there is no real direction!

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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  04:39:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't understand how anyone could see it anticlockwise. And more if this person is supposed to have a fact-based way of thinking. It's not a question of appreciation, it's a matter of fact, she's turning CLOCKWISE.
Does left brain people watch their screen in a mirror?

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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  04:42:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess cos I'm only able to see her turning in one direction, the same is also true with the shadow. Is there any real science to any of this or is it on a par with horoscopes as someone mentioned?

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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  04:44:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by remig

I can't understand how anyone could see it anticlockwise. And more if this person is supposed to have a fact-based way of thinking. It's not a question of appreciation, it's a matter of fact, she's turning CLOCKWISE.
Does left brain people watch their screen in a mirror?



If you imagine the foreground is the background and vice-versa then she would in theory be turning the other way. I'm with you though, I can only see her turning clockwise.

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Edited by - trobrianders on 10/12/2007 04:44:25
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  04:48:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders

I guess cos I'm only able to see her turning in one direction, the same is also true with the shadow. Is there any real science to any of this or is it on a par with horoscopes as someone mentioned?

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there is some truth behind it but i'm pretty sure lots of things overlap and it's a huge generalisation. i haven't looked at whether this pic really determines which side is dominant.

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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
488 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  04:52:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
she's moving to her left and that it that
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  04:55:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
take a hemisphere dominance test.....

http://brain.web-us.com/brain/LRBrain.html

quote:
You responded as a right brained person to 7 questions, and you responded as a left brained person to 11questions. According to the Hemispheric Dominance test, you use your left brain the most.



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Edited by - Llamadance on 10/12/2007 04:58:19
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  05:05:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2007/06/left-brain-right-brain-myth.html

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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  05:07:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance

oh, how many of the right brain/clockwise folk are left-handed?


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me!

We're all obscure fans.- trobrianders


Et moi.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



Me too.

I still can't see ANTIclockwise though.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  05:48:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

the shadow doesn't give any clues, because the light could be coming from in front or from behind. there is no real direction!

does too. from behind. is too.

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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  06:02:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.gifworks.com/cgi-bin/gifworks.pl?com=effect_split_page&img=00_20521.gif&orig=00_20521.gif

enjoy looking at each of the images from both perspectives

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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  07:15:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok. i'm truly using both halves here and can understand that the girl may be facing towards me or away from me in each still image. (and we're talking about her position anyway, not my perspective which is always the same.)
but, the shadow is cast in my direction any way you look at it.
now that that's cleared, look at the shadow of the raised foot again, it's "drawing" an ellipse, i.e. moving up and from right to left - that's when it is further from our point of view (and further from her center of movement), and then on the left side moving down off the canvas when it is getting closer to our point of view.
now unless the pic is upside down and she's actually doing a headspin in a breakdance performance, that movement judging from the shadow her raised foot is casting is counter-clockwise. puh-eriod

us europeans are so divided on important stuff

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  07:35:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tisasawath







Lots of childhood memories in that neighborhood, tisa. I spent every holiday right there. I've tried to transform into Frank fans the family from there but, sadly, they can't get into Frank. D'oh!


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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  07:48:11  Show Profile  Visit awestruck's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Clockwise and I am right handed.

I just can't see how anyone could see anticlockwise.

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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  07:48:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Just as star signs belong to astrology, not astronomy, split-brain theories belong to phrenology, not psychology". Good left-brainish combined hemisperical call PixieSteve


My brain hurts



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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  07:57:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finally, after trying several times, I got her to spin clockwise. I can achieve this by looking at the shadows of her feet, or even a couple inches below the image. Once I get her going that way, then I can move my eyes to the center of the image and she continues going clockwise. But if I shut my eyes for a second or two and reopen them, she's going counterclockwise (aclockwise? unclockwise? declockwise? clocklessly?) again.


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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  08:35:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tisasawath

ok. i'm truly using both halves here and can understand that the girl may be facing towards me or away from me in each still image. (and we're talking about her position anyway, not my perspective which is always the same.)
but, the shadow is cast in my direction any way you look at it.
now that that's cleared, look at the shadow of the raised foot again, it's "drawing" an ellipse, i.e. moving up and from right to left - that's when it is further from our point of view (and further from her center of movement), and then on the left side moving down off the canvas when it is getting closer to our point of view.
now unless the pic is upside down and she's actually doing a headspin in a breakdance performance, that movement judging from the shadow her raised foot is casting is counter-clockwise. puh-eriod

us europeans are so divided on important stuff

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touche. i had a good think and i agree. there's no an angle of light that could explain the shadows in a clockwise motion.

i removed the shadow.



would you now say there's no ultimate direction?

I like to complain

Edited by - PixieSteve on 10/12/2007 08:48:35
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  08:38:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like riding a bike kinda. I just managed it too but the other way. There are no conclusions to be drawn from this.

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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  09:09:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
i removed the shadow.



would you now say there's no ultimate direction?

I like to complain



um, i can see the nipples now

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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
488 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  09:30:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course, there is no true direction. I hope people are only messin' about otherwise.

I mostly see it anti-clockwise, mostly.

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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  09:41:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve



whilst the other is just revolving in the middle.


I like to complain



Clockwise or anti-clockwise?


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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  11:01:44  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok now this is weird; seeing the two above and below each other makes the top go clockwise and the bottom go anticlockwise. Quoi?



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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  11:22:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if I put them one above the other or side by side, they still both go the same way, clockwise.


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kfs
= Cult of Ray =

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  11:56:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am SO frustrated because I can't see her turning counter-clockwise.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2007 :  12:08:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm trying to understand seeing counter-clockwise. Do we all agree that she's standing on her left foot and she has her right arm extended? Her head is cocked to the right?
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