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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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 Posted - 10/07/2007 : 15:22:51
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He's too far too modest to brag about it himself, but our own Llamadance took third in a 10k race today, setting a personal best by five minutes. That's huge. Everybody congratulate him.
Do we have any other runners here? I've recently taken it up, and had a rather disappointing first race a few weeks ago. But I'm really loving it. I'm training for a marathon next May. I can't run more than six miles at this point, and I'm not sure I can actually work my way up to 26, but I'm going to give it my best.
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 15:26:12
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Well done Llama!
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 15:51:04
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Originally posted by coastline
I'm not sure I can actually work my way up to 26, but I'm going to give it my best.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
still experiencing problems counting? :(
well done llama!
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 15:58:50
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Congrats Llama, I been getting back into the running thing and FUCK is it painful when you haven't done it for a while. I really love running but I think some folks' legs and hips are better built to handle all that stress, but I've found it to be a great solitary activity. It can be a form of meditation. It'd be nice to say I ran a marathon at least once.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 16:00:23
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
still experiencing problems counting? :(
Huh?
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 16:02:54
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mmm, I absolutely believe in it's meditational aspect, but that's not easy to achieve. Takes time for your tendons and stuff to adjust to the pounding as well, but they do acclimatise.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 16:05:45
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congrats llama! that's hardcore
how many people were in the marathon? |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 16:09:30
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Well done, Llama!
I've been thinking of taking up running, just to keep fit really, not in any competitive way. I used to walk 5 or so miles a day to get to and from college but haven't got anywhere near to doing that recently. Well, once, when me and a mate went for a walk to the pub, it turned into a twelve mile walk somehow. My legs paid for that the following few days.
I need to get fit again.
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houstonguthrie
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 16:09:46
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The last time I ran a mile was in my final P.E. course freshman year in college (approx 17 years ago) And I just remember thinking to myself - as I panted and tried to ignore that cramp in my side - "this is the last mile I will ever run in my entire life unless I'm being chased by a bear"
I have much respect for those that can run and go the distance. It just ain't for me - I do like a good long brisk walk for exercise though.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 16:11:18
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Originally posted by floop
congrats llama! that's hardcore
how many people were in the marathon?
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 17:43:27
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i've run a half marathon and lots under that over the years.
my aim was to do another half marathon last month, but found it too difficult to train with the hours i work and that it was winter.
but i'm aiming for one in the first half of next year.
i love running.
it is a very time consuming passion, and i sometime lack the motivation to spend the time required, but when i get off my ass and actually get it done, it makes me feel so good.
but well done llama...
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 18:08:51
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Congratulations Llama!
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 10/08/2007 : 00:46:57
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You know, I've known I'd say 6 or 7 people who have trained for a marathon for the purpose of "just to say I did it" and every single one of them has said it was a stupid reason and a mistake they didn't enjoy the experience, the training, and when they bring it up people generally just say "wow" and that's about it.
If it's an accomplishment that you think will make you happy and feel like you've done something in your life to be proud of, go for it. Otherwise, really - it's not very good for your body to train for and run just one marathon.
So, back to the original topic, I've been a runner off and on and I enjoy going 5-6 miles just to be outdoors, listening to some tunes or a baseball game. I've gone further distances and not enjoyed it too much - you can really do more damage than good if you don't have a very solid training plan.
Remember, the guy that the marathon distance was named for promptly died after running that far and delivering the message. That's what I think when someone tells me they ran a marathon. 10K is a much healthier distance and you can do it every 2-3 days. 5 miles is my perfect distance. You don't have to refuel or rehydrate or anything, and it only takes 30-40 minutes.
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 10/08/2007 : 01:17:16
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Midland runner dies during Chicago Marathon
Heat sends 302 to hospital; race halted
October 8, 2007
Chad Schieber loved to run marathons.
So his family was stunned to hear that someone as well-conditioned as the 35-year-old Midland police officer died Sunday while running the Chicago Marathon.
They described Schieber as a loving husband and father who was deeply committed to God.
"He was in such good shape," said his cousin Matt Schieber, a Midland resident and firefighter. "To have this news today is pretty much incredible."
Schieber's death was the worst moment of the marathon plagued by unusually hot October weather that is affecting metro Detroit, as well.
Organizers halted the race after four hours and after at least 302 people were taken to Chicago-area hospitals because of heat-related ailments.
Schieber collapsed in the 18th mile of the race while running on the city's south side. He was pronounced dead shortly before 2 p.m. at a Veteran's Affairs hospital, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner's Office. An autopsy was scheduled for today.
George Chiampas, the race's medical director, said witnesses reported seeing Schieber collapse and said he was unresponsive.
"It sounds like he lost his pulse very fast and died on the race course," Chiampas said.
Chad Schieber was a "stand-up guy" who was "very firm in his belief in the Lord," and active in his church, Matt Schieber said.
By 10 a.m., temperatures had reached a race record of 88 degrees. The previous marathon record of 84 degrees was set in 1979.
Shortly before noon, as temperatures neared 90 degrees, marathon organizers decided to divert runners from the race route to the starting area. Ailing runners received medical attention and cooling misters.
Lori Kaufman, a runner from St. Louis, said she was told to start walking at Mile 14. She said the fire department turned on hydrants to hose people down along the course. She also said she did not have enough water and Gatorade.
"We had a lot of spectators just handing us bottles of water, which helped a lot," Kaufman said. "Every medic station that we passed was full of people. I mean, they were not doing well."
Organizers said they initially hoped to let those who had made it halfway complete the 26.2-mile race. But as the event continued, even those who had passed the halfway mark were told to turn back.
Some kept going, and helicopters hovered over the course while police officers shouted through a bullhorn and warned runners to slow down and walk.
"I'm a schoolteacher. I don't like dropping out," said Joan Berman, 70, of Ann Arbor, who called it quits at the 8-mile mark. "But I know when to take a recess."
There was another running death Sunday in Arlington, Va. An unidentified runner from Virginia died during the Army Ten-Miler, collapsing near the finish at the Pentagon. The race started in 70-degree heat and high humidity.
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 02:58:21
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yes, run a bit... but only cos i can't play soccer at the moment due to a groin injury..... it a FUCKIN pain... i've done 8k in about 34 .... 10k would prob take me a further hour!!!
Anyways, funny this, since Gebrselassie broke the marathon record last weekend..
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 04:10:27
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originally posted by Jefrey
If it's an accomplishment that you think will make you happy and feel like you've done something in your life to be proud of, go for it. Otherwise, really - it's not very good for your body to train for and run just one marathon.
[snip]......you can really do more damage than good if you don't have a very solid training plan.
Remember, the guy that the marathon distance was named for promptly died after running that far and delivering the message. That's what I think when someone tells me they ran a marathon. 10K is a much healthier distance and you can do it every 2-3 days. 5 miles is my perfect distance. You don't have to refuel or rehydrate or anything, and it only takes 30-40 minutes.
Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre <-- yeah, what he said.
you're quite negative about marathons.
A couple of things:
the sense of achievement is fantastic, it's a huge effort to get there. That achievement shouldn't be dependent on anyone else's reaction, if it does then you're doing it for the wrong reasons.
Everyone who's training for any race ideally would have a training plan. Especially for a marathon. The general idea is build up slowly, don't run too fast and make sure you have the correct shoes for your running gait and replace them after 500 miles.
Most people get injured becasue of a failure in one or more of those three things.
10k isn't necessarily a 'healthier distance' and different people will react differently to training and mileage.
Also Pheidippides run seems to have been 250km, not 42km - which is probably why he died.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2007 : 06:04:15
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Originally posted by lonely persuader
but only cos i can't play soccer at the moment due to a groin injury
Me too......plus two injured ankles, an injured calf and a sore neck. It was a tough game on Saturday.
Anyway, well done Llama.
I recently tried this new fad called uh, jogging. I believe it's jogging or yogging, it might be a soft j. I'm not sure but apparently you just run for an extended period of time. It's supposed to be wild.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 06:38:42
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Originally posted by Llamadance
ha, it can be a bit boring at times I guess. However hill or fell running is where it's really at.
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ya, i find it a bit boring. good feeling afterward however, I guess i find it a means to an end at the moment. As i could run for hours after a ball etc... unfortunately I have a gilmore groin at the moment and finding hard to get rid of it via conservative treatment.... its quite literally a pain in the balls at times..... |
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 07:40:24
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I run occasionally but I don't have the patience or motivation to do it consistently.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 17:26:35
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Fuckin' A, Llama, that's awesome.
Since I stopped running several miles a week I have gained 23 pounds. Ain't that pretty at all. like the song goes.
Seriously, Steve, that's great.
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 00:15:45
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Originally posted by Llamadance
quote:
originally posted by Jefrey
If it's an accomplishment that you think will make you happy and feel like you've done something in your life to be proud of, go for it. Otherwise, really - it's not very good for your body to train for and run just one marathon.
[snip]......you can really do more damage than good if you don't have a very solid training plan.
Remember, the guy that the marathon distance was named for promptly died after running that far and delivering the message. That's what I think when someone tells me they ran a marathon. 10K is a much healthier distance and you can do it every 2-3 days. 5 miles is my perfect distance. You don't have to refuel or rehydrate or anything, and it only takes 30-40 minutes.
Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre <-- yeah, what he said.
you're quite negative about marathons.
A couple of things:
the sense of achievement is fantastic, it's a huge effort to get there. That achievement shouldn't be dependent on anyone else's reaction, if it does then you're doing it for the wrong reasons.
Everyone who's training for any race ideally would have a training plan. Especially for a marathon. The general idea is build up slowly, don't run too fast and make sure you have the correct shoes for your running gait and replace them after 500 miles.
Most people get injured becasue of a failure in one or more of those three things.
10k isn't necessarily a 'healthier distance' and different people will react differently to training and mileage.
Also Pheidippides run seems to have been 250km, not 42km - which is probably why he died.
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I guess I need to check my facts.
Anyway, my point was that the people I talked to didn't have the sense of of achievement you describe. They went through all the pain and suffering and in the end not a one of them seemed to think it was worth it. And then people didn't seem to think it was that big of an achievement on top of that.
I don't they were doing it to impress anyone, but I think the point is that so many people have run marathons now that it's like climbing Everest or something. It's ridiculously hard, a lot of people fail, and then in the end nobody thinks it's a big deal.
I'm not trying to discourage people, really! I like running. Just passing on personal accounts from "casual" marathon runners that just wanted to do it as an acheivement.
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 00:22:50
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OK - well we're both wrong. Total of 280 km in all (doesn't say the amount of time between the 240 and the other 40, but I'd rank the 240 in 2 days as a "man's" run) So a mere Marathon is pretty much a distance for wussies:
The traditional story relates that Pheidippides (530 BC–490 BC), an Athenian herald, was sent to Sparta to request help when the Persians landed at Marathon, Greece. He ran 240 km (150 miles) in two days. He then ran the 40 km (26 miles) from the battlefield by the town of Marathon to Athens to announce the Greek victory over Persia in the Battle of Marathon (490 BC) with the word "Nenikékamen" (Nenikékamen, 'We have won' or 'We are victorious') and died on the spot.
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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
947 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 01:16:48
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| good work llama! |
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 05:41:56
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congrats, Llama!
as far as distance, i think half-marathons or less are healthier than full distance because after around 30K your energy reserves get depleted and you start burning your body to be able to continue (the fat reserves have probably already gone through training)
i have this now for stimulation
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 05:58:33
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you're right tisawath, after about 15 miles you start to get more muscle degradation. However, you still have fat reserves to burn.....even Paula Radcliffe has 10% body fat, less than that for a woman is unhealthy. Dean Karnazes typically has about 5-7% body fat, but for his recent 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days he had to increase that to give himself enough fuel. I sit at about 13-14% body fat, so plenty to work with.
You might be getting confused with glycogen which is needed to burn fat efficiently (iirc). The reason marathon runners hit the wall is there's no glycogen left, burning fat by itself is pretty hard, so no energy.
There's no doubt a marathon is harder on your body than a half marathon, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun, satisfying and injury free if you take the right training and recovery steps.
sheesh, listen to me, like I know it all. I've only run one marathon which I suffered repeated injuries prior to. Think I'm wiser now, we'll see, next marathon is April 2008.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 11:46:39
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Congrats llama.
5 minutes is quite substantial.
What do you attribute that to?
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 12:34:31
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 What are trying to do to me?
my 10k PB was set on a course with a big bloody hill in the middle of it 17 months ago, I tend to run HM's so the PB was soft. Also, prior to the race - for the first time ever - I managed to do three months in a row of over 140 miles each - a fair part of which was running up big bloody hills, so I'm a lot stronger. Lastly, I ran through the pain and vomit feeling.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 12:55:03
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I stopped running the day I learned it was a right-wing sport.
Denis
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:16:51
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Good luck with that, Llama. I had it for years and then it magically disappeared. Coincidentally when I stopped running. Hm.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:26:42
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Oh, sorry. I'm dense.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:28:21
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Nevermind k, I didn't get it either (still don't get it btw)
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:29:45
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if you start again and it comes back, gimme a shout. But generally, stretch your calves, pick up keys with your toes and roll ice under your foot.
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